Snap General Election?

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AmitG

3,300 posts

161 months

Saturday 29th April 2017
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Hayek said:
Am I correct in hearing suggestion that Tories may have capital gains tax on the family home in their manifesto...? That'll cut their lead I'd imagine.
No way they would do that IMHO.


Justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

243 months

Saturday 29th April 2017
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I think the only 'suggestion' of it is in a couple of posts in the tax reform thread here.

Vaud

50,611 posts

156 months

Saturday 29th April 2017
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AmitG said:
Hayek said:
Am I correct in hearing suggestion that Tories may have capital gains tax on the family home in their manifesto...? That'll cut their lead I'd imagine.
No way they would do that IMHO.
Make it just for £1M+ homes and you have a token towards the centre ground and left while not alienating that many voters (who will vote for you anyway, or worst case abstain)... the richer ones will find a tax efficient way out of it anyway.

AmitG

3,300 posts

161 months

Saturday 29th April 2017
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Vaud said:
AmitG said:
Hayek said:
Am I correct in hearing suggestion that Tories may have capital gains tax on the family home in their manifesto...? That'll cut their lead I'd imagine.
No way they would do that IMHO.
Make it just for £1M+ homes and you have a token towards the centre ground and left while not alienating that many voters (who will vote for you anyway, or worst case abstain)... the richer ones will find a tax efficient way out of it anyway.
It's a possibility - they already hiked up stamp duty for expensive homes.

I reckon that if they have to do something (which I don't think they will), they should go for a minimal capital gains rate of say 0.5%. That is small enough for the people who have done well out of property not to mind too much, but establishes the principle that profits on the sale of a primary residence are taxable.


Vaud

50,611 posts

156 months

Saturday 29th April 2017
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AmitG said:
It's a possibility - they already hiked up stamp duty for expensive homes.

I reckon that if they have to do something (which I don't think they will), they should go for a minimal capital gains rate of say 0.5%. That is small enough for the people who have done well out of property not to mind too much, but establishes the principle that profits on the sale of a primary residence are taxable.
They could counter it by making stamp duty a loan at base rates (secured by the property) rather than a fee at point of purchase.

Fastdruid

8,651 posts

153 months

Saturday 29th April 2017
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Justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

243 months

Saturday 29th April 2017
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Fastdruid said:
Christ, those numbers!

What's left of Labour would eat itself after that.

FiF

44,144 posts

252 months

Saturday 29th April 2017
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Justayellowbadge said:
Fastdruid said:
Christ, those numbers!

What's left of Labour would eat itself after that.
Nearly half of all Labour voters prepared to desert the party as they lose both leave and remain support

Deptford Draylons

10,480 posts

244 months

Saturday 29th April 2017
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Fastdruid said:
Let's hope so. Not only would it give May a clear mandate to continue with the type of Brexit she has already outlined , but with the LibDem last chance saloon for remainers having failed to get much support from the 48% , it would make it all the more sweeter.

CaptainSlow

13,179 posts

213 months

Saturday 29th April 2017
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May is the best and only choice. Corbyn is an embarrassment and Farron is King Weasel.

AmitG

3,300 posts

161 months

Saturday 29th April 2017
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Fastdruid said:
Guardian Article said:
Our model sees the Tories on 422 seats, with Labour reduced to just 150, and the Lib Dems declining from 9 to 6. The Conservative majority would be north of 190. Labour would be wiped out beyond what most people are currently predicting. Leadership candidates like Clive Lewis would no longer be leadership candidates, because they would no longer be MPs.
yikes

PH XKR

1,761 posts

103 months

Saturday 29th April 2017
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Could be interesting for the snp too, plenty upset with jimmy crankie

CaptainSlow

13,179 posts

213 months

Saturday 29th April 2017
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Sturgeon, Farron, Wood and Corbyn, has there ever been a more dislikeable and incompetent group of party leaders?

PH XKR

1,761 posts

103 months

Saturday 29th April 2017
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CaptainSlow said:
Sturgeon, Farron, Wood and Corbyn, has there ever been a more dislikeable and incompetent group of party leaders?
Lets hope that fact lets us decimate them

Vaud

50,611 posts

156 months

Saturday 29th April 2017
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AmitG said:
Fastdruid said:
Guardian Article said:
Our model sees the Tories on 422 seats, with Labour reduced to just 150, and the Lib Dems declining from 9 to 6. The Conservative majority would be north of 190. Labour would be wiped out beyond what most people are currently predicting. Leadership candidates like Clive Lewis would no longer be leadership candidates, because they would no longer be MPs.
yikes
I hope it is not true. I believe in strong government but equally we need strong opposition to keep them to account. A healthy 60-80 seats would be fine.

RedTrident

8,290 posts

236 months

Sunday 30th April 2017
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Look forward to the day these pretend lefty career politicians lose their seats. They and their Guardian newspaper can go and form their own political party.

Any chance Harriet Hampster will lose her seat?

Ridgemont

6,593 posts

132 months

Sunday 30th April 2017
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If there is a lesson here, it is that propelling nomark lightweights to leadership is getting found out. To be able to have a discussion with the electorate you need to be faintly credible.

Stickyfinger

8,429 posts

106 months

Sunday 30th April 2017
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Vaud said:
I hope it is not true. I believe in strong government but equally we need strong opposition to keep them to account. A healthy 60-80 seats would be fine.
With Sturgeon, Farron, Wood and Corbyn about then I am happy if May gets a landslide, there is always danger with idiots about, especially true in the lead up to Brexit.
The "official opposition" at the moment is the EU/Merkel etal

williamp

19,265 posts

274 months

Sunday 30th April 2017
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Stickyfinger said:
Vaud said:
I hope it is not true. I believe in strong government but equally we need strong opposition to keep them to account. A healthy 60-80 seats would be fine.
With Sturgeon, Farron, Wood and Corbyn about then I am happy if May gets a landslide, there is always danger with idiots about, especially true in the lead up to Brexit.
The "official opposition" at the moment is the EU/Merkel etal
I know what you mean. And with 20-odd of them decided to gang up and bully us because we are taking our ball away, Trump, Putin and N Norea.... we need a statesman like person to deal with all of this.

Stickyfinger

8,429 posts

106 months

Sunday 30th April 2017
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williamp said:
Trump, Putin and N Norea
LOL

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