Snap General Election?

[wobert]

Puggit said:

chris watton said:

FN2TypeR said:

This thread is going to be comedy gold on election night if he wins,

That would be funny, in a very perverse way. But May has shown herself wanting, trying to appeal to the minority, trying to emulate 'Labour-Lite' and putting off the majority. I have no idea why her government has done this, appealing to Guardianistas who would never vote for her anyway, and alienating the majority who would vote for her!

I am not voting for her government this time, I will spoil my ballot paper, all are just shades of awful, AFAIAC

Likewise, natural Tory voter here. But after the school meals and dementia tax I was considering spoiling. What the hell was she doing?

A conclusion that was mooted by a work colleague, was that May is deliberately trying to lose, so Corbyn has to compolete the Brexit negotiations.

By doing so, he will mess things up and be a one term PM, letting the Tories back in, in 2022......

[p1stonhead]

wobert said:

Puggit said:

chris watton said:

FN2TypeR said:

This thread is going to be comedy gold on election night if he wins,

That would be funny, in a very perverse way. But May has shown herself wanting, trying to appeal to the minority, trying to emulate 'Labour-Lite' and putting off the majority. I have no idea why her government has done this, appealing to Guardianistas who would never vote for her anyway, and alienating the majority who would vote for her!

I am not voting for her government this time, I will spoil my ballot paper, all are just shades of awful, AFAIAC

Likewise, natural Tory voter here. But after the school meals and dementia tax I was considering spoiling. What the hell was she doing?

A conclusion that was mooted by a work colleague, was that May is deliberately trying to lose, so Corbyn has to compolete the Brexit negotiations.

By doing so, he will mess things up and be a one term PM, letting the Tories back in, in 2022......

That would be ballsy (and fking retarded) to the extreme

[Likes Fast Cars]

Dog Star said:

Likes Fast Cars said:

FN2TypeR said:

This thread is going to be comedy gold on election night if he wins,

Gees...... I hope not! fk that, and anyway if that happens people will be too busy packing their bags to get out before the lights go out and the place becomes a backwater.

I called this one a few pages ago and I reckon he will win.

TBH I actually do wonder how much - if at all - worse it could be under Corbyn. My biggest fear from him are defence cuts and the reduction in our abilty to project power, but aside from that it might actually be better. Despite having a conservative government our tax burden is fking immense; myself and the OH earn decent money (over six figures between us), no kids, homeowners and we get taxed highly on incomes, council tax (through the roof for ever less services), monstrous VAT, IPT blah blah it goes on and on and on.

For this I get my bins emptied once every three weeks, the roads are falling apart, there are just no police at all, I have to pay for prescriptions, dental etc.

I mean really - how much worse can it get, because right now it's st.

It's so crap I'm actually wondering if trying something utterly different might work.
Anyroadup, I'll be voting for Simon Danczuk who Labour has deselected and who is standing as an independent.

And no, I'm not some leftie - I actually have a framed photo of The Sainted Lady Margaret Thatcher on my office wall, but the way I am beginning to see this is that I'm seeing absolutely fk all for my tax burden, so while I'm not right keen on Corbyn winning I really cannot see how he can make it any worse.

Fair enough position.

But remember the rot about bins being emptied every 2 or 3 weeks was started under Labour.

And the tax burden is a result of labour's previous mismanagement. Rebuilding the economy takes time, and it aint easy.

I'm looking at my caricature of the late Baroness on my wall right now, was done for me by the late Tony Hart (another good Tory), it shows her clobbering Tony Bliar on the head with her trademark handbag (was done around 2003).

[wobert]

p1stonhead said:

wobert said:

Puggit said:

chris watton said:

FN2TypeR said:

This thread is going to be comedy gold on election night if he wins,

That would be funny, in a very perverse way. But May has shown herself wanting, trying to appeal to the minority, trying to emulate 'Labour-Lite' and putting off the majority. I have no idea why her government has done this, appealing to Guardianistas who would never vote for her anyway, and alienating the majority who would vote for her!

I am not voting for her government this time, I will spoil my ballot paper, all are just shades of awful, AFAIAC

Likewise, natural Tory voter here. But after the school meals and dementia tax I was considering spoiling. What the hell was she doing?

A conclusion that was mooted by a work colleague, was that May is deliberately trying to lose, so Corbyn has to compolete the Brexit negotiations.

By doing so, he will mess things up and be a one term PM, letting the Tories back in, in 2022......

That would be ballsy (and fking retarded) to the extreme

Agreed, but the Conservative campaign has been a complete disaster.......and now I think there's a real chance Corbyn could pull through.....

[Likes Fast Cars]

p1stonhead said:

wobert said:

Puggit said:

chris watton said:

FN2TypeR said:

This thread is going to be comedy gold on election night if he wins,

That would be funny, in a very perverse way. But May has shown herself wanting, trying to appeal to the minority, trying to emulate 'Labour-Lite' and putting off the majority. I have no idea why her government has done this, appealing to Guardianistas who would never vote for her anyway, and alienating the majority who would vote for her!

I am not voting for her government this time, I will spoil my ballot paper, all are just shades of awful, AFAIAC

Likewise, natural Tory voter here. But after the school meals and dementia tax I was considering spoiling. What the hell was she doing?

A conclusion that was mooted by a work colleague, was that May is deliberately trying to lose, so Corbyn has to compolete the Brexit negotiations.

By doing so, he will mess things up and be a one term PM, letting the Tories back in, in 2022......

That would be ballsy (and fking retarded) to the extreme

There will be nothing left to run after 2022..... actually make that after 2019.

[London424]

I still think there is no chance of Labour winning. If you believe the polls have narrowed to the extent they have doesn't it make Corbyn more popular in England than Blair ever was? (what with the collapse of Scottish Labour).

Does that really seem likely to people? You've got MP's in the party who I doubt would vote for him!

I'm still going for Conservative by 100.

[don'tbesilly]

wobert said:

Puggit said:

chris watton said:

FN2TypeR said:

This thread is going to be comedy gold on election night if he wins,

That would be funny, in a very perverse way. But May has shown herself wanting, trying to appeal to the minority, trying to emulate 'Labour-Lite' and putting off the majority. I have no idea why her government has done this, appealing to Guardianistas who would never vote for her anyway, and alienating the majority who would vote for her!

I am not voting for her government this time, I will spoil my ballot paper, all are just shades of awful, AFAIAC

Likewise, natural Tory voter here. But after the school meals and dementia tax I was considering spoiling. What the hell was she doing?

A conclusion that was mooted by a work colleague, was that May is deliberately trying to lose, so Corbyn has to compolete the Brexit negotiations.

By doing so, he will mess things up and be a one term PM, letting the Tories back in, in 2022......

If Corbyn wins I'd put money on Brexit not happening.

[Hayek]

Puggit said:

chris watton said:

FN2TypeR said:

This thread is going to be comedy gold on election night if he wins,

That would be funny, in a very perverse way. But May has shown herself wanting, trying to appeal to the minority, trying to emulate 'Labour-Lite' and putting off the majority. I have no idea why her government has done this, appealing to Guardianistas who would never vote for her anyway, and alienating the majority who would vote for her!

I am not voting for her government this time, I will spoil my ballot paper, all are just shades of awful, AFAIAC

Likewise, natural Tory voter here. But after the school meals and dementia tax I was considering spoiling. What the hell was she doing?

I ought to be a natural Tory, but not interested in the Cameron middle way types. I haven't followed the school meals thing much, but I'm not a huge fan of means testing especially for things like that. If we're having state run schools I wouldn't mind if they just fed everybody.

The energy price fixing puts me off, she doesn't seem interested in small government or low tax, with too big a majority she might be able to side-line the John Redwoods etc on Brexit, they seem keen on surveillance with a lack of concern for privacy, not willing to reconsider (EU underpinned) HS2, bought the nuclear power station from the Chinese anyway rather than investing in our own capability, poor record as Home Secretary, migrant 'cap' etc etc.

[sidicks]

Hayek said:

I ought to be a natural Tory, but not interested in the Cameron middle way types. I haven't followed the school meals thing much, but I'm not a huge fan of means testing especially for things like that. If we're having state run schools I wouldn't mind if they just fed everybody.

The energy price fixing puts me off, she doesn't seem interested in small government or low tax, with too big a majority she might be able to side-line the John Redwoods etc on Brexit, they seem keen on surveillance with a lack of concern for privacy, not willing to reconsider (EU underpinned) HS2, bought the nuclear power station from the Chinese anyway rather than investing in our own capability, poor record as Home Secretary, migrant 'cap' etc etc.

And yet, after all that, if you vote against May that would be crazy!

[Jockman]

wobert said:

Agreed, but the Conservative campaign has been a complete disaster.......and now I think there's a real chance Corbyn could pull through.....

As Alex Ferguson used to say.......squeaky bum time !!!

[Jockman]

don'tbesilly said:

If Corbyn wins I'd put money on Brexit not happening.

+1

[Jockman]

chris watton said:

FN2TypeR said:

This thread is going to be comedy gold on election night if he wins,

That would be funny, in a very perverse way. But May has shown herself wanting, trying to appeal to the minority, trying to emulate 'Labour-Lite' and putting off the majority. I have no idea why her government has done this, appealing to Guardianistas who would never vote for her anyway, and alienating the majority who would vote for her!

I am not voting for her government this time, I will spoil my ballot paper, all are just shades of awful, AFAIAC

Get used to Tim Farron's face.

He will be the Deputy PM in the next Coalition Govt.

Tory strategy is eroding a landslide lead !!

[KarlMac]

Do we reckon that IF Labour win Corbyn will get anywhere near seeing 12 months, never mind a full term?

Can someone more educated in these matters confirm it would actually be easy to oust Corbyn if he was in power rather than as the leader of the opposition? I had some labour door knockers round last night telling me this.

[chris watton]

Likes Fast Cars said:

Fair enough position.

But remember the rot about bins being emptied every 2 or 3 weeks was started under Labour.

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That is perhaps true, but since 2010, seven years, what have the Conservatives done to reverse any of Labour's policies? Foreign aid still ring-fenced, my tax bill up by £3k per year (never really went up under Labour, ironic)! And we are still borrowing more than we take in net tax contributions. We seem to be paying more (net tax contributors, that is), and getting less and less, from bin collections and crappy roads to ever tougher laws on our freedoms, and that is because all governments made crappy decisions and it is us who end up suffering for it!

It really doesn't feel like we have had a Conservative government for the past several years, the state and tax take gets ever higher. To be clear, I do not mind one jot about paying tax and NI, but I have trouble seeing where these extra taxes are spent.

[don'tbesilly]

Jockman said:

chris watton said:

FN2TypeR said:

This thread is going to be comedy gold on election night if he wins,

That would be funny, in a very perverse way. But May has shown herself wanting, trying to appeal to the minority, trying to emulate 'Labour-Lite' and putting off the majority. I have no idea why her government has done this, appealing to Guardianistas who would never vote for her anyway, and alienating the majority who would vote for her!

I am not voting for her government this time, I will spoil my ballot paper, all are just shades of awful, AFAIAC

Get used to Tim Farron's face.

He will be the Deputy PM in the next Coalition Govt.

Tory strategy is eroding a landslide lead !!

Hence my previous post.

The cluster*uck is gaining momentum!

[London424]

sidicks said:

Hayek said:

I ought to be a natural Tory, but not interested in the Cameron middle way types. I haven't followed the school meals thing much, but I'm not a huge fan of means testing especially for things like that. If we're having state run schools I wouldn't mind if they just fed everybody.

The energy price fixing puts me off, she doesn't seem interested in small government or low tax, with too big a majority she might be able to side-line the John Redwoods etc on Brexit, they seem keen on surveillance with a lack of concern for privacy, not willing to reconsider (EU underpinned) HS2, bought the nuclear power station from the Chinese anyway rather than investing in our own capability, poor record as Home Secretary, migrant 'cap' etc etc.

And yet, after all that, if you vote against May that would be crazy!

Exactly. My voting is pretty normally along the lines of least worst candidate.

[FN2TypeR]

KarlMac said:

Do we reckon that IF Labour win Corbyn will get anywhere near seeing 12 months, never mind a full term?

Can someone more educated in these matters confirm it would actually be easy to oust Corbyn if he was in power rather than as the leader of the opposition? I had some labour door knockers round last night telling me this.

Once he is in power his Government could be ousted by a vote of no confidence, that doesn't mean he would have to resign though - my opinion is that if you are forced from power in such a way then you SHOULD stand down, but that doesn't mean that he will, of course

I'd rather have a Labour government than a Labour/Liberal coalition, Tim Farron is a c*nt, I hate the sight of him, the smarmy POS

[gooner1]

Jockman said:

wobert said:

Agreed, but the Conservative campaign has been a complete disaster.......and now I think there's a real chance Corbyn could pull through.....

As Alex Ferguson used to say.......squeaky bum time !!!

These bums aren't just squeaking, the smell of fear is palpable across our fair isles.

[Jockman]

FN2TypeR said:

Once he is in power his Government could be ousted by a vote of no confidence, that doesn't mean he would have to resign though - my opinion is that if you are forced from power in such a way then you SHOULD stand down, but that doesn't mean that he will, of course

I'd rather have a Labour government than a Labour/Liberal coalition, Tim Farron is a c*nt, I hate the sight of him, the smarmy POS

You can't say that about our next Coalition partner....

[Challo]

How much is it the Conservatives losing ground or Labour picking up votes elsewhere?