Should remainers vote for the Libs?
Discussion
footnote said:
Perhaps they would have been thinking that, when it appeared that there was no other option, but TM has essentially offered another referendum masquerading as an election which will give many Remainers a lot of hope that the referendum result can be undone.
The only party suggesting that they won't "implement the will of the people" hasn't got a credible chance of being able to implement that promise, so it's somewhat academic!footnote said:
herewego said:
Are there people here who voted remain but now think the government should get on with getting out?
Perhaps they would have been thinking that, when it appeared that there was no other option, but TM has essentially offered another referendum masquerading as an election which will give many Remainers a lot of hope that the referendum result can be undone.It can and possibly will work both ways, what a bum*er!
footnote said:
herewego said:
Are there people here who voted remain but now think the government should get on with getting out?
Perhaps they would have been thinking that, when it appeared that there was no other option, but TM has essentially offered another referendum masquerading as an election which will give many Remainers a lot of hope that the referendum result can be undone.
Bill said:
crankedup said:
Oh come on!!! comparing 'mob rule' with a democratic referendum.
I agree, but you brought it up. A further referendum or parliamentary vote wouldn't be mob rule.don'tbesilly said:
footnote said:
herewego said:
Are there people here who voted remain but now think the government should get on with getting out?
Perhaps they would have been thinking that, when it appeared that there was no other option, but TM has essentially offered another referendum masquerading as an election which will give many Remainers a lot of hope that the referendum result can be undone.It can and possibly will work both ways, what a bum*er!
We just don't know what would have happened had Cameron had triggered A50 on the 24th of June. Personally, I think it would have caused carnage in the financial markets. Thank God he thought better of it.
ou sont les biscuits said:
don'tbesilly said:
footnote said:
herewego said:
Are there people here who voted remain but now think the government should get on with getting out?
Perhaps they would have been thinking that, when it appeared that there was no other option, but TM has essentially offered another referendum masquerading as an election which will give many Remainers a lot of hope that the referendum result can be undone.It can and possibly will work both ways, what a bum*er!
We just don't know what would have happened had Cameron had triggered A50 on the 24th of June. Personally, I think it would have caused carnage in the financial markets. Thank God he thought better of it.
Personally I think 'most people' wouldn't analyse the fact that what was promised didn't materialise, and conclude that they were as I suggested..hoodwinked.
We can hypothesise until the 9th June if you like
don'tbesilly said:
Quite a possibility, and by the same token some who voted Remain and who have not witnessed the financial earthquake promised by Project Fear prior to the referendum might now vote for the Tories as they have taken exception to being hoodwinked.
It can and possibly will work both ways, what a bum*er!
Most realise it's a bit early to say how the effects will pan out.It can and possibly will work both ways, what a bum*er!
ou sont les biscuits said:
On the other hand, most people recognise that the 'financial earthquake' was predicated on Cameron doing what he said he would which was to trigger Article 50 as soon as the referendum result was known. That didn't happen, and the BoE stepped in with an easing of fiscal policy and yet more QE.
We just don't know what would have happened had Cameron had triggered A50 on the 24th of June. Personally, I think it would have caused carnage in the financial markets. Thank God he thought better of it.
It was predicated on a Leave vote. We can all disagree on many things, but trying to rewrite history isn't wise. We just don't know what would have happened had Cameron had triggered A50 on the 24th of June. Personally, I think it would have caused carnage in the financial markets. Thank God he thought better of it.
Some of the people who made those statements have subsequently noted they were wrong. So there's little mileage defending it.
Who knows what will happen next...
cookie118 said:
sidicks said:
The only party suggesting that they won't "implement the will of the people" hasn't got a credible chance of being able to implement that promise, so it's somewhat academic!
So the result of a general election would not be the will of the people?cookie118 said:
sidicks said:
The only party suggesting that they won't "implement the will of the people" hasn't got a credible chance of being able to implement that promise, so it's somewhat academic!
So the result of a general election would not be the will of the people?2) the will of the people on the EU position cannot be gauged from the results of the General Election - people are voting on a large number of different issues
sidicks said:
1) the will of the people (as far as the EU is concerned) was to leave the EU - we had a referendum on this exact question
2) the will of the people on the EU position cannot be gauged from the results of the General Election - people are voting on a large number of different issues
Idiot ,Our great leader is making it a central point of the tory campain that only (her) strong leadership can result in a successful brexit. ergo this GE is all about brexit.2) the will of the people on the EU position cannot be gauged from the results of the General Election - people are voting on a large number of different issues
citizensm1th said:
Idiot ,Our great leader is making it a central point of the tory campain that only (her) strong leadership can result in a successful brexit. ergo this GE is all about brexit.
So anyone that votes Lib Dem is anti-Brexit and anyone that votes Tory or Labour is pro-Brexit and none of their other policies matter?I think that's demonstrably nonsense, but if that's your view...
sidicks said:
So anyone that votes Lib Dem is anti-Brexit and anyone that votes Tory or Labour is pro-Brexit and none of their other policies matter?
I think that's demonstrably nonsense, but if that's your view...
And that is not what i said ,but you carry on sidicks world view and all thatI think that's demonstrably nonsense, but if that's your view...
citizensm1th said:
sidicks said:
1) the will of the people (as far as the EU is concerned) was to leave the EU - we had a referendum on this exact question
2) the will of the people on the EU position cannot be gauged from the results of the General Election - people are voting on a large number of different issues
Idiot ,Our great leader is making it a central point of the tory campain that only (her) strong leadership can result in a successful brexit. ergo this GE is all about brexit.2) the will of the people on the EU position cannot be gauged from the results of the General Election - people are voting on a large number of different issues
kers out of the way so she can get on with the job of managing the country and negotiating Brexit. The GE campaign manifestos (for all parties) will be across a range of different policy areas as sidicks says, not just Brexit.Of course the Lib Dums well live up to their reputation of campaigning on vapour policies, in this case reversing on Brexit &/or another referendum or some other equally absurd and undeliverable promise.
Likes Fast Cars said:
Brexit is one factor in as much as Maggie May is looking to get the whingers and fkers out of the way so she can get on with the job of managing the country and negotiating Brexit. The GE campaign manifestos (for all parties) will be across a range of different policy areas as sidicks says, not just Brexit.
Of course the Lib Dums well live up to their reputation of campaigning on vapour policies, in this case reversing on Brexit &/or another referendum or some other equally absurd and undeliverable promise.
https://www.conservatives.com/kers out of the way so she can get on with the job of managing the country and negotiating Brexit. The GE campaign manifestos (for all parties) will be across a range of different policy areas as sidicks says, not just Brexit.Of course the Lib Dums well live up to their reputation of campaigning on vapour policies, in this case reversing on Brexit &/or another referendum or some other equally absurd and undeliverable promise.
Our great leaders own words
"We need an election now to secure the strong and stable leadership the country needs to see us through Brexit and beyond".
"Getting on with the job and making Brexit work is the most important task the Government faces today. Our future prosperity, our place in the world, and our standard of living all depend on getting the next five years right".
"Every single vote for Theresa May and the Conservatives is a vote for strong and stable leadership in the national interest. It is a vote to strengthen Britain’s negotiating position to ensure we get the best Brexit deal possible, and it is a vote to strengthen our economy".
But Hey PH knows better right?
citizensm1th said:
https://www.conservatives.com/
Our great leaders own words
"We need an election now to secure the strong and stable leadership the country needs to see us through Brexit and beyond".
"Getting on with the job and making Brexit work is the most important task the Government faces today. Our future prosperity, our place in the world, and our standard of living all depend on getting the next five years right".
"Every single vote for Theresa May and the Conservatives is a vote for strong and stable leadership in the national interest. It is a vote to strengthen Britain’s negotiating position to ensure we get the best Brexit deal possible, and it is a vote to strengthen our economy".
But Hey PH knows better right?
So NOT all about Brexit after all.Our great leaders own words
"We need an election now to secure the strong and stable leadership the country needs to see us through Brexit and beyond".
"Getting on with the job and making Brexit work is the most important task the Government faces today. Our future prosperity, our place in the world, and our standard of living all depend on getting the next five years right".
"Every single vote for Theresa May and the Conservatives is a vote for strong and stable leadership in the national interest. It is a vote to strengthen Britain’s negotiating position to ensure we get the best Brexit deal possible, and it is a vote to strengthen our economy".
But Hey PH knows better right?
Please can you explain, if I don't want Brexit, but I think the Lib Dems are a bunch of incompetent weasels as far as running the economy is concerned, who should I vote for?
Edited by sidicks on Friday 28th April 20:19
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