Corbyn's idiotic new Bank Holiday promise

[stupidbutkeen]

over in N.Ireland we already get st paddys day off as a bank holiday
This seems to me to be unfair that coorbin is only proposing to give us a extra 3 days and everyone else 4
I thought he was a man of the people and to make it fair for us he should offer us all a free day at the zoo every year so we can visit his relatives.

[Yipper]

Good old commie Trot maniacs.

Do less work (more bank hols)... flood the working class with cheap overseas labour to drive down their wages and put more on benefits... and be less defended against rogue states (denuclearise)...

Where do I sign up.

[crofty1984]

El stovey said:

swiveleyedgit said:

Now altered to prevent arrest by the Stazi.

Stasi. Staatssicherheit

Well I never knew that.

[Jonmx]

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/bank-holidays-...
This article pretty much sums up everybody's opinions in here. 'A free hippopotamus for every voter' is a particular highlight.

[anonymous-user]

crofty1984 said:

El stovey said:

swiveleyedgit said:

Now altered to prevent arrest by the Stazi.

Stasi. Staatssicherheit

Well I never knew that.

Whatever.

[Brother D]

Welshbeef said:

Don't the USA have 10 days all in for annual leave? Over and above that it's unpaid leave.


What labour should focus on is the forcoming autonomous work where robots take millions of people out of work without anything for hem to do. That's a big issue and it's coming fast - Only the creative roles are safe (ish). How do we survive in a country /world where there are no jobs.

Let's say someone who is a cleaner store assistant etc robots take over those jobs. These individuals through no fault of their own are literally unable to train to upskill to a bigger better job. Those people are then on the junk heap for life. That's a big issue. Then think police men doctors accountants lawyers bricklayers etc all done by robots.

Actually I think holiday entitlement in the USA is actually 0 days...

My first role in the USA I had 5 days annual leave, now after 5 years it has gone up to 12.

I am lucky in that we get 10 bank holidays.

But just to add, the 12 days includes any sick days you take. Its is referred to as 'paid time off'. So that includes vacation or sick time or 'family days'.

If you are pregnant and take time off for a baby they class you as disabled, and the government pays...

Oh and you are taking the piss if you take more than a few days off a year. Not sure anyone in the company has taken their full entitlement of 12 days off. A lady who works at my company for 20 years and accrued 20 days per annum had her first two (consecutive) week vacation in 20 years. It was a big deal...

[Andy Zarse]

Say, here's an idea, why don't I just decide for myself when to have a day off rather than being instructed by the government?

Corbyn's authoritarian idea demonstrates nicely that you can take the boy (well senile old communist) out of Islington but you can't take Marx out of the current Labour Party.

[Otispunkmeyer]

Brother D said:

Welshbeef said:

Don't the USA have 10 days all in for annual leave? Over and above that it's unpaid leave.


What labour should focus on is the forcoming autonomous work where robots take millions of people out of work without anything for hem to do. That's a big issue and it's coming fast - Only the creative roles are safe (ish). How do we survive in a country /world where there are no jobs.

Let's say someone who is a cleaner store assistant etc robots take over those jobs. These individuals through no fault of their own are literally unable to train to upskill to a bigger better job. Those people are then on the junk heap for life. That's a big issue. Then think police men doctors accountants lawyers bricklayers etc all done by robots.

Actually I think holiday entitlement in the USA is actually 0 days...

My first role in the USA I had 5 days annual leave, now after 5 years it has gone up to 12.

I am lucky in that we get 10 bank holidays.

But just to add, the 12 days includes any sick days you take. Its is referred to as 'paid time off'. So that includes vacation or sick time or 'family days'.

If you are pregnant and take time off for a baby they class you as disabled, and the government pays...

Oh and you are taking the piss if you take more than a few days off a year. Not sure anyone in the company has taken their full entitlement of 12 days off. A lady who works at my company for 20 years and accrued 20 days per annum had her first two (consecutive) week vacation in 20 years. It was a big deal...

You are right. There is no official line on annual leave, there is no statutory minimum. I think something like 70% do give paid time off. Means its entirely possible to end up working somewhere where they give you zero paid holidays.

And even when they have them, they're complete workaholics, so they don't tend to use all the days or take big chunks off.

[Sheepshanks]

Brother D said:

But just to add, the 12 days includes any sick days you take. Its is referred to as 'paid time off'. So that includes vacation or sick time or 'family days'.

You would know better than me, but we deal a lot with American companies and, when it's come up, PTO has been referred to as Personal Time Off. This always made sense to me as it seems to be used for odd days off, rather than a few days together for a holiday.

[MartynVRS]

Welshbeef said:

What labour should focus on is the forcoming autonomous work where robots take millions of people out of work without anything for hem to do. That's a big issue and it's coming fast - Only the creative roles are safe (ish). How do we survive in a country /world where there are no jobs.

Let's say someone who is a cleaner store assistant etc robots take over those jobs. These individuals through no fault of their own are literally unable to train to upskill to a bigger better job. Those people are then on the junk heap for life. That's a big issue. Then think police men doctors accountants lawyers bricklayers etc all done by robots.

That day is coming pretty quickly especially in manufacturing and food processing. Margins are so tight companies want everything as efficient as possible. Some of it is held back by the cost of it but that's coming down all the time. We've automated quite a bit, even customer depots we send to are automated but there's loads I'd like to do. It all can be it just comes down to cost

[Shakermaker]

If JC gets in, will April 28th become a Bank Holiday to celebrate Ed Balls Day?

[vonuber]

Scrap bank holidays and just up the statutory minimum.

[Puddenchucker]

vonuber said:

Scrap bank holidays and just up the statutory minimum.

That would be my suggestion: Have a simple formaula based around the number of days an employee works, so for every N days (or N hours) you work, you get one days holiday entitlement.

[Rude-boy]

On the plus side those extra 4 bank holidays are likely to have motorsport events taking place on them so another 4 opportunities to earn and extra £325 per day for some

[Welshbeef]

Brother D said:

Actually I think holiday entitlement in the USA is actually 0 days...

My first role in the USA I had 5 days annual leave, now after 5 years it has gone up to 12.

I am lucky in that we get 10 bank holidays.

But just to add, the 12 days includes any sick days you take. Its is referred to as 'paid time off'. So that includes vacation or sick time or 'family days'.

If you are pregnant and take time off for a baby they class you as disabled, and the government pays...

Oh and you are taking the piss if you take more than a few days off a year. Not sure anyone in the company has taken their full entitlement of 12 days off. A lady who works at my company for 20 years and accrued 20 days per annum had her first two (consecutive) week vacation in 20 years. It was a big deal...

That's pretty grim IMHO.

[Brother D]

Welshbeef said:

Brother D said:

Actually I think holiday entitlement in the USA is actually 0 days...

My first role in the USA I had 5 days annual leave, now after 5 years it has gone up to 12.

I am lucky in that we get 10 bank holidays.

But just to add, the 12 days includes any sick days you take. Its is referred to as 'paid time off'. So that includes vacation or sick time or 'family days'.

If you are pregnant and take time off for a baby they class you as disabled, and the government pays...

Oh and you are taking the piss if you take more than a few days off a year. Not sure anyone in the company has taken their full entitlement of 12 days off. A lady who works at my company for 20 years and accrued 20 days per annum had her first two (consecutive) week vacation in 20 years. It was a big deal...

That's pretty grim IMHO.

It is extremely unhealthy imo, however the overall standard of living does seem higher compared to the UK. Obviously I am fortunate not to suffer any injury or illness, which can, and does bankrupt a significant number of people.

However I am slightly exaggerating on the PTO aspects - overall 14% of civilian companies do offer 'access' to paid family leave, and 88% of companies are generous in offering unpaid leave to their employees who are sick or dealing with family emergencies:

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/03/23/ac...

[98elise]

vonuber said:

Scrap bank holidays and just up the statutory minimum.

That would get my vote. I'd rather group them together and take them in a block. 5 days holiday = 9 days away from work, which is far better IMO.