EU to accept united Ireland provision...

[nicanary]

so called said:

mrmarcus said:

so called said:

Due respect to my Irish friends, north and south, but cant we sell the north for about 55 to 100 billion to Europe and kill two threads in one stroke....so to speak.

GB would only end up in a European Court for handling stolen property....

Very good point.

Or be taken to court under some Trade Description Act - "unfit for purpose".

[Hugo a Gogo]

"Seller describes item as 'Northern Ireland' when it is not the most Northerly part, also described as Ulster when only 6 out of 9 counties were received : not recommended!"

[XslaneyX]

Just seen Juncker on Sky about to speak at some conference in Italy saying "i will talk in french as English is losing it's use in Europe"

What a tit

[alfie2244]

XslaneyX said:

Just seen Juncker on Sky about to speak at some conference in Italy saying "i will talk in french as English is losing it's use in Europe"

What a tit

Acting like a big kid.

[BlackLabel]

An Irish parliamentary committee tasked with looking at the impact of Brexit on Ireland has set out a proposal to find a way towards peaceful re-unification.

[FN2TypeR]

Fingers crossed.

[rovermorris999]

FN2TypeR said:

Fingers crossed.

Absolutely. It'd be good-bye to a running sore and save a fortune. Any chance we can throw Scotland in with the deal? BOGOF?

[Murph7355]

rovermorris999 said:

FN2TypeR said:

Fingers crossed.

Absolutely. It'd be good-bye to a running sore and save a fortune. Any chance we can throw Scotland in with the deal? BOGOF?

Forgetting that the vast majority of those living there want to be in the UK....

Most of the recommendations appear to be simply getting answers to "what ifs" in the event of NI wanting to reunify (quite possibly more a when than if).

[wc98]

footnote said:

That all makes sense but I've reluctantly given up on people making sense. I used to think the people who were anti-EU were a bit like morris dancers and real ale enthusiasts: genial, self-entertaining traditional English eccentrics.
I never really thought there'd ever even be a vote on it but I see how wrong I was about that.
Then Trump, then LePen, chuck in Putin... North Korea ...all my certainties are on very shaky ground.

I think I just became complacent as I got older and, surrounded by people with similar beliefs, came to think that was 'normal' that most people thought like that.

I genuinely think anything could happen. Ireland could have guns on the streets again if that went wrong.

We're not as far away from that as I'd like in the UK. There's a lot more simmering hate and resentment than there was a year ago.

Or it could all blow over - which is probably most likely, but I have doubts where I didn't have them before.

I'm now a firmer believer in 'past performance is not an indicator of future outcomes'.

Perhaps I wouldn't put any money on it after all!

you may have mentioned it before and i have forgotten , but which eu institution/agency/department or industry in receipt of eu funding core to its existence is it you work for ?

[alfie2244]

wc98 said:

footnote said:

That all makes sense but I've reluctantly given up on people making sense. I used to think the people who were anti-EU were a bit like morris dancers and real ale enthusiasts: genial, self-entertaining traditional English eccentrics.
I never really thought there'd ever even be a vote on it but I see how wrong I was about that.
Then Trump, then LePen, chuck in Putin... North Korea ...all my certainties are on very shaky ground.

I think I just became complacent as I got older and, surrounded by people with similar beliefs, came to think that was 'normal' that most people thought like that.

I genuinely think anything could happen. Ireland could have guns on the streets again if that went wrong.

We're not as far away from that as I'd like in the UK. There's a lot more simmering hate and resentment than there was a year ago.

Or it could all blow over - which is probably most likely, but I have doubts where I didn't have them before.

I'm now a firmer believer in 'past performance is not an indicator of future outcomes'.

Perhaps I wouldn't put any money on it after all!

you may have mentioned it before and i have forgotten , but which eu institution/agency/department or industry in receipt of eu funding core to its existence is it you work for ?

[rovermorris999]

Murph7355 said:

Forgetting that the vast majority of those living there want to be in the UK....

Curses. Foiled again.

[NJH]

Murph7355 said:

rovermorris999 said:

FN2TypeR said:

Fingers crossed.

Absolutely. It'd be good-bye to a running sore and save a fortune. Any chance we can throw Scotland in with the deal? BOGOF?

Forgetting that the vast majority of those living there want to be in the UK....

Most of the recommendations appear to be simply getting answers to "what ifs" in the event of NI wanting to reunify (quite possibly more a when than if).

True but rather than the mess of Brexit this is the right way to do it. Unlike Scottish independence its hard to see Irish reunification as anything other than a future inevitability at some point IMHO, much like our own separation from the EU project as they go off on the path to full on federalism. Hopefully the start of an honest relationship rather than the previous unhappy marriage of convenience with the EU. Eventually enough people both sides of the border will want reunification for a referendum to look like a successful bet, then it will most likely happen. This could happen fairly soon once all the options are honestly laid out to the people.

Thinking about this subject back to the original separation and what followed is unfortunately is a reminder of the Irish civil war. The difficulties are obvious but the emotional pull of 'correcting' a century old schism is hard to ignore even if it ends up being a short term folly.

[footnote]

wc98 said:

footnote said:

That all makes sense but I've reluctantly given up on people making sense. I used to think the people who were anti-EU were a bit like morris dancers and real ale enthusiasts: genial, self-entertaining traditional English eccentrics.
I never really thought there'd ever even be a vote on it but I see how wrong I was about that.
Then Trump, then LePen, chuck in Putin... North Korea ...all my certainties are on very shaky ground.

I think I just became complacent as I got older and, surrounded by people with similar beliefs, came to think that was 'normal' that most people thought like that.

I genuinely think anything could happen. Ireland could have guns on the streets again if that went wrong.

We're not as far away from that as I'd like in the UK. There's a lot more simmering hate and resentment than there was a year ago.

Or it could all blow over - which is probably most likely, but I have doubts where I didn't have them before.

I'm now a firmer believer in 'past performance is not an indicator of future outcomes'.

Perhaps I wouldn't put any money on it after all!

you may have mentioned it before and i have forgotten , but which eu institution/agency/department or industry in receipt of eu funding core to its existence is it you work for ?

Chuckle... that memory of yours, still I suppose there's not much room in there with all the sentimental images of the Queen, policemen clipping ears, the Proms, Zulu, Union Jacks and the sound of sad songs about the great days of empire and other nonsense.
At least you won't have to remember your manners around foreigners soon.

[Murph7355]

NJH said:

True but rather than the mess of Brexit this is the right way to do it. Unlike Scottish independence its hard to see Irish reunification as anything other than a future inevitability at some point IMHO, much like our own separation from the EU project as they go off on the path to full on federalism. Hopefully the start of an honest relationship rather than the previous unhappy marriage of convenience with the EU. Eventually enough people both sides of the border will want reunification for a referendum to look like a successful bet, then it will most likely happen. This could happen fairly soon once all the options are honestly laid out to the people.

Thinking about this subject back to the original separation and what followed is unfortunately is a reminder of the Irish civil war. The difficulties are obvious but the emotional pull of 'correcting' a century old schism is hard to ignore even if it ends up being a short term folly.

I tend to agree.

Though I'm not confident that any politicians are capable of laying out the options "honestly".

I hope they seriously bide their time before calling for a referendum and focus on sorting out what's needed for the job in hand (Brexit). It could get very messy otherwise.

[NJH]

100% agree.

They have to tread really carefully in setting out what the various futures could look like, its a 99.99999% certainty IMHO the hardliners north of the border will accuse anything said from the south as a pack of lies intended to 'con' their constituents into supporting reunification. They are already know this so hopefully we won't see a repeat of anything like last years campaigning.

[saaby93]

BlackLabel said:

An Irish parliamentary committee tasked with looking at the impact of Brexit on Ireland has set out a proposal to find a way towards peaceful re-unification.

Have a guess whether the following 2 options are included

1) Eire rejoins the UK
2) Eire leaves the EU

[wc98]

footnote said:

Chuckle... that memory of yours, still I suppose there's not much room in there with all the sentimental images of the Queen, policemen clipping ears, the Proms, Zulu, Union Jacks and the sound of sad songs about the great days of empire and other nonsense.
At least you won't have to remember your manners around foreigners soon.

brilliant response, i actually lol'd at that . which one was it again

[richie99]

The Irish plan also assumes that the UK will fund Northern Ireland's deficit for 30 years. Personally I would give them the keys and leave them to get on with it.

[anonymous-user]

XslaneyX said:

Just seen Juncker on Sky about to speak at some conference in Italy saying "i will talk in french as English is losing it's use in Europe"

What a tit

Why was he a tit to say that?
It's exactly what Brexiteers voted for. A mere statement of fact.

[handpaper]

Jimboka said:

XslaneyX said:

Just seen Juncker on Sky about to speak at some conference in Italy saying "i will talk in french as English is losing it's use in Europe"

What a tit

Why was he a tit to say that?
It's exactly what Brexiteers voted for. A mere statement of fact.

Because English is (ironically) something of a lingua franca in the EU, particularly following the accession of the former Soviet satellite states.
The "language of diplomacy" stopped being French sometime last century.