Angela Rayner skewered by Nick Ferrari

[vaud]

bulldong said:

Whilst I respect her for getting as far as she has with no education, it doesn’t change the fact that she is completely uneducated. In my opinion this makes her completely unsuitable to be shadow education secretary and actually makes a joke of the position. She hasn’t even got a GCSE to her name as far as I’m aware.

I'm no fan of hers,but where do you draw the line? I know some very bright, successful people with poor GCSEs, no A-levels, etc. Turns out they were mostly failed by the schools (undiagnosed dyslexia, etc).

[SpeckledJim]

Dr Jekyll said:

bulldong said:

Whilst I respect her for getting as far as she has with no education, it doesn’t change the fact that she is completely uneducated. In my opinion this makes her completely unsuitable to be shadow education secretary and actually makes a joke of the position. She hasn’t even got a GCSE to her name as far as I’m aware.

Playing devil's advocate though, you don't need to be an ex convict to be in charge of the prison service.

It'd be good if you'd ever been to a prison at all, on either side of the

[Zetec-S]

vaud said:

bulldong said:

Whilst I respect her for getting as far as she has with no education, it doesn’t change the fact that she is completely uneducated. In my opinion this makes her completely unsuitable to be shadow education secretary and actually makes a joke of the position. She hasn’t even got a GCSE to her name as far as I’m aware.

I'm no fan of hers,but where do you draw the line? I know some very bright, successful people with poor GCSEs, no A-levels, etc. Turns out they were mostly failed by the schoolsTories (undiagnosed dyslexia, etc).

FTFY

[Dr Jekyll]

vaud said:

I'm no fan of hers,but where do you draw the line? I know some very bright, successful people with poor GCSEs, no A-levels, etc. Turns out they were mostly failed by the schools (undiagnosed dyslexia, etc).

+1
Some of the brightest people I know have few if any qualifications.

But having barely gone through the education system at all would arguably be an issue for an education boss even if she was bright, which she certainly doesn't appear to be.

[anonymous-user]

Not only is she not bright she isn't pleasant.
She gets quite good press but things pop up from time to time about her diva attitudes

[anonymous-user]

techiedave said:

Not only is she not bright she isn't pleasant.
She gets quite good press but things pop up from time to time about her diva attitudes

Yes, she does seem a bit cruel and domineering but sometimes a firm hand is needed

[Escort3500]

techiedave said:

That's my election night sorted

You forgot the foot pump

[anonymous-user]

vaud said:

bulldong said:

Whilst I respect her for getting as far as she has with no education, it doesn’t change the fact that she is completely uneducated. In my opinion this makes her completely unsuitable to be shadow education secretary and actually makes a joke of the position. She hasn’t even got a GCSE to her name as far as I’m aware.

I'm no fan of hers,but where do you draw the line? I know some very bright, successful people with poor GCSEs, no A-levels, etc. Turns out they were mostly failed by the schools (undiagnosed dyslexia, etc).

The problem I have with her is that she almost wears being uneducated as some sort of badge of honour. It isn't actually cool to be uneducated, or think that it is cool to be uneducated when you are an adult. It also isn't a good idea to suggest publicly or to children that you don't need to go to school to get places. It's one of the worst ways you can set your child up for disillusionment later in life when they realise nobody will employ them, or that they could've done better at school. I didn't work hard at school, and I am lucky that I can muster it and eventually came out OK. I will never ever tell that to my kids though. Angela Rayner has actually started interviews with responses like "Well I left school with no GSCEs". It's a joke.

I also know a handful people with no GCSEs or limited education who have smashed it at life (not talking necessarily just in financial terms) so it doesn't discount you from anything if you have the grit. She obviously has the grit to get places, and I am not bashing her for that. I do find it somewhat bewildering though that she goes into many interviews without a clue what she is talking about and with seemingly flagrant disregard for her job and the people working for her.

Ok, fine, in the OP you can say that Nick Ferrari is a belligerent tw@ and that he held her up on what some might see as a "minor" issue. But, if I was her I would be doing overtime making up for the fact that I am completely out of my depth by making sure that I was absolutely clued up on the absolute basics of what I am trying to persuade people is a good idea. In all the recent interviews I have seen her in, she's just a nasty, uninformed, judgmental piece of work to be honest.

[vaud]

bulldong said:

The problem I have with her is that she almost wears being uneducated as some sort of badge of honour. It isn't actually cool to be uneducated, or think that it is cool to be uneducated when you are an adult. It also isn't a good idea to suggest publicly or to children that you don't need to go to school to get places. It's one of the worst ways you can set your child up for disillusionment later in life when they realise nobody will employ them, or that they could've done better at school. I didn't work hard at school, and I am lucky that I can muster it and eventually came out OK. I will never ever tell that to my kids though. Angela Rayner has actually started interviews with responses like "Well I left school with no GSCEs". It's a joke.

I also know a handful people with no GCSEs or limited education who have smashed it at life (not talking necessarily just in financial terms) so it doesn't discount you from anything if you have the grit. She obviously has the grit to get places, and I am not bashing her for that. I do find it somewhat bewildering though that she goes into many interviews without a clue what she is talking about and with seemingly flagrant disregard for her job and the people working for her.

Ok, fine, in the OP you can say that Nick Ferrari is a belligerent tw@ and that he held her up on what some might see as a "minor" issue. But, if I was her I would be doing overtime making up for the fact that I am completely out of my depth by making sure that I was absolutely clued up on the absolute basics of what I am trying to persuade people is a good idea. In all the recent interviews I have seen her in, she's just a nasty, uninformed, judgmental piece of work to be honest.

I don't disagree; I was playing devils advocate in part. I don't think she is fit to be the shadow, let alone the actual education secretary.

[Tankrizzo]

bulldong said:

The problem I have with her is that she almost wears being uneducated as some sort of badge of honour. It isn't actually cool to be uneducated, or think that it is cool to be uneducated when you are an adult. It also isn't a good idea to suggest publicly or to children that you don't need to go to school to get places. It's one of the worst ways you can set your child up for disillusionment later in life when they realise nobody will employ them, or that they could've done better at school. I didn't work hard at school, and I am lucky that I can muster it and eventually came out OK. I will never ever tell that to my kids though. Angela Rayner has actually started interviews with responses like "Well I left school with no GSCEs". It's a joke.

I also know a handful people with no GCSEs or limited education who have smashed it at life (not talking necessarily just in financial terms) so it doesn't discount you from anything if you have the grit. She obviously has the grit to get places, and I am not bashing her for that. I do find it somewhat bewildering though that she goes into many interviews without a clue what she is talking about and with seemingly flagrant disregard for her job and the people working for her.

Ok, fine, in the OP you can say that Nick Ferrari is a belligerent tw@ and that he held her up on what some might see as a "minor" issue. But, if I was her I would be doing overtime making up for the fact that I am completely out of my depth by making sure that I was absolutely clued up on the absolute basics of what I am trying to persuade people is a good idea. In all the recent interviews I have seen her in, she's just a nasty, uninformed, judgmental piece of work to be honest.

Totally agree - she also does not appreciate that the world has changed from the barrow boys like Sugar and Branson who made a fortune with two carrots and a chestnut - it can happen but these days it is far, far harder and kids generally need qualifications to get on.

My wife is a teacher, a bit of a lefty and aghast that Rayner keeps going on about having no GCSEs like some medal, even more so that she could be in charge of education in this country.

My personal opinion is that she's thick as pigst from everything I've heard her say and write. Her background would suggest she's got nothing about her - a shouty union type who has been promoted far, far above her ability. She is also that dangerous combination of dim coupled with ultra-left ideology and occupying a potentially very powerful position.

Edited by Tankrizzo on Tuesday 26th November 10:23

[anonymous-user]

Tankrizzo said:

She is also that dangerous combination of dim coupled with ultra-left ideology and occupying a potentially very powerful position.

Very arousing, have you ever considered writing erotic fiction?

[Supercilious Sid]

Tankrizzo said:

Totally agree - she also does not appreciate that the world has changed from the barrow boys like Sugar and Branson who made a fortune with two carrots and a chestnut - it can happen but these days it is far, far harder and kids generally need qualifications to get on.

My wife is a teacher, a bit of a lefty and aghast that Rayner keeps going on about having no GCSEs like some medal, even more so that she could be in charge of education in this country.

My personal opinion is that she's thick as pigst from everything I've heard her say and write. Her background would suggest she's got nothing about her - a shouty union type who has been promoted far, far above her ability. She is also that dangerous combination of dim coupled with ultra-left ideology and occupying a potentially very powerful position.

Edited by Tankrizzo on Tuesday 26th November 10:23

Good post though I feel Branson is less of a barrow boy than Sugar. His background is hardly 'wrong side of the tracks'

[Tankrizzo]

El stovey said:

Very arousing, have you ever considered writing erotic fiction?

Stoves did you.....did you give your login to techiedave?

[anonymous-user]

El stovey said:

Very arousing, have you ever considered writing erotic fiction?

[kev1974]

lol, Michael Gove has gone to war with the chav today

https://twitter.com/michaelgove/status/11993048264...

Gove said "He is a far, far better rapper than he is a political analyst" about Stormzy
Chav said "And Michael Gove is crap at both"
Gove then said "I set trends dem man copy"

proper down wiv da kids, innit Gove

[Unbusy]

bulldong said:

Whilst I respect her for getting as far as she has with no education, it doesn’t change the fact that she is completely uneducated. In my opinion this makes her completely unsuitable to be shadow education secretary and actually makes a joke of the position. She hasn’t even got a GCSE to her name as far as I’m aware.

Nail. Head. A total mockery and disrespect of the education system to have this person anywhere near being in control of it.

[Supercilious Sid]

Unbusy said:

Nail. Head. A total mockery and disrespect of the education system to have this person anywhere near being in control of it.

The question is- would the Blob take to her or not?

[toddler]

Zetec-S said:

vaud said:

bulldong said:

Whilst I respect her for getting as far as she has with no education, it doesn’t change the fact that she is completely uneducated. In my opinion this makes her completely unsuitable to be shadow education secretary and actually makes a joke of the position. She hasn’t even got a GCSE to her name as far as I’m aware.

I'm no fan of hers,but where do you draw the line? I know some very bright, successful people with poor GCSEs, no A-levels, etc. Turns out they were mostly failed by the schoolsTories (undiagnosed dyslexia, etc).

FTFY

My eldest daughter spent her first two years at primary school with undiagnosed dyslexia. We moved her to a new school who spotted it pretty much straight away. That was under Scottish Labour and SNP governments. Nothing to do with Tories and everything to do with crap teachers.

[anonymous-user]

El stovey said:

Tankrizzo said:

She is also that dangerous combination of dim coupled with ultra-left ideology and occupying a potentially very powerful position.

Very arousing, have you ever considered writing erotic fiction?

He's a natural isn't he ?
She playfully ran her fingers through her ginger fringe, whilst the momentum activist nibbled at her

[Dog Star]

bulldong said:

The problem I have with her is that she almost wears being uneducated as some sort of badge of honour. It isn't actually cool to be uneducated, or think that it is cool to be uneducated when you are an adult. It also isn't a good idea to suggest publicly or to children that you don't need to go to school to get places. It's one of the worst ways you can set your child up for disillusionment later in life when they realise nobody will employ them, or that they could've done better at school. I didn't work hard at school, and I am lucky that I can muster it and eventually came out OK. I will never ever tell that to my kids though. Angela Rayner has actually started interviews with responses like "Well I left school with no GSCEs". It's a joke.

Ten years ago I worked for several months in my local Jobcentre, which was actually really rather good. I was a special advisor to long term unemployed.

One day I was chatting to a "customer" and he was saying to me that his biggest regret in life was dossing around in school, not doing his homework, thinking it was cool to skive off or not turn up, cheek the teachers etc. I remember him saying "and look at me now; here I am".