Moped muggers and police bike chase laws
Discussion
Pothole said:
Digga said:
. A joke of a sentence. There's ordinary people accidentally exceeding 'smart' motorway limits getting almost as bad as this blatant criminal.
you'll have a link to share to prove this outrageous claim, of course.Jazzy Jag said:
it won't be long before people have had enough and take the law into their own hands ,i really hope they get away with it when they do. these people are utter scum and are going to seriously injure or kill someone if they are allowed to carry on.as for the sentence above,it is a complete joke. bikers have been sent to jail for excessive speeding ,when the only effect it had at the time was to blow the mind of some crinkly old judge that could not comprehend physically travelling at 150 mph. yes they were breaking the law and when caught have to accept some form of punishment. i do not agree they should have been jailed no matter what argument anyone comes up with for a jail sentence.
i have sat in court and watched a judge give someone on their 4th or 5th drink driving offence a 10 year ban and 500 quid fine. i suppose the mitigation in that case was members of the judiciary occasionally get caught driving pissed so best not set any stiff precedents.
I work with angle grinders, the metal cutting disc will give you a friction burn but won't cut through you like a knife through butter. If you wrap your jumper or a hanky around your fist you can jam it knock it out of their hands, put the assailant to the ground and kick them in the crotch until you are exhausted.
Cold said:
Pothole said:
you'll have a link to share to prove this outrageous claim, of course.
The convicted received a suspended sentence which is only a threat of jail if convicted of another crime within the set time frame. Given his record, the chance of capture and conviction seems slim so it's not a particularly effective deterrent. The "fine" was a few hundred quid (or a small holdall full of mobile phones) and it wouldn't be too difficult to find examples of comparable speeding convictions - especially given the recent overhaul.
This chap has received no punishment of any merit. No punishment is no deterrent. He'll be back to his career before you can say probation.
I don't understand "Given his record, the chance of capture and conviction seems slim". The fact that he has a record means he's been caught. Why should he not be convicted of something else triggering the suspended sentence, making it a punishment of some merit?
Spx said:
I work with angle grinders, the metal cutting disc will give you a friction burn but won't cut through you like a knife through butter. If you wrap your jumper or a hanky around your fist you can jam it knock it out of their hands
I'm sure the theory's sound, but I don't think I fancy trying it.Pothole said:
Not too difficult, yet no links posted. Remember the specifics of the post I commented on before posting any irrelevant garbage, though, please.
I don't understand "Given his record, the chance of capture and conviction seems slim". The fact that he has a record means he's been caught. Why should he not be convicted of something else triggering the suspended sentence, making it a punishment of some merit?
Are you autistic? Genuine question.I don't understand "Given his record, the chance of capture and conviction seems slim". The fact that he has a record means he's been caught. Why should he not be convicted of something else triggering the suspended sentence, making it a punishment of some merit?
Cold said:
Pothole said:
Not too difficult, yet no links posted. Remember the specifics of the post I commented on before posting any irrelevant garbage, though, please.
I don't understand "Given his record, the chance of capture and conviction seems slim". The fact that he has a record means he's been caught. Why should he not be convicted of something else triggering the suspended sentence, making it a punishment of some merit?
Are you autistic? Genuine question.I don't understand "Given his record, the chance of capture and conviction seems slim". The fact that he has a record means he's been caught. Why should he not be convicted of something else triggering the suspended sentence, making it a punishment of some merit?
Now, any chance of answering my question?
It is a real problem, although it would seem that sleepy Suffolk Market towns are able to deal more effectively with bike crime than the Met...
http://www.becclesandbungayjournal.co.uk/news/crim...
http://www.becclesandbungayjournal.co.uk/news/crim...
Rude-boy said:
it would seem that sleepy Suffolk Market towns are able to deal more effectively with bike crime than the Met...
You'd have to be daft to genuinely think that any one incident is directly comparable when you're considering a broader trend in a very different geographical area.Fastpedeller said:
If members of the public carry around a large tyre lever or similar they can stuff it through the front wheel of the offender's moped, and hey presto - Instant justice. 
Unfortunately member of public will be put inside for carrying a dangerous weapon.
Umbrella? A good strong one would work a treat. Unfortunately member of public will be put inside for carrying a dangerous weapon.RogueTrooper said:
Rude-boy said:
it would seem that sleepy Suffolk Market towns are able to deal more effectively with bike crime than the Met...
You'd have to be daft to genuinely think that any one incident is directly comparable when you're considering a broader trend in a very different geographical area.Mind you there are a lot of old 4x4s with big fat bull bars on round here and a significant number of people who have a moral code that is perhaps not in line with the law of the land, even if it seeks to achive a very similar aim of letting normal folk who have no wish to be a scrotum go about their lives in peace.
When it starts to get into the realm of serious arrestable offences then I keep hearing the phrase "Don't start nothing, won't be nothing."
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