The Gender Non-binary debate.

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Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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Noodle1982

2,103 posts

106 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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One thing I do like about the whole self identity politics is how easy it is for the liberals to go against their own views regarding assuming someone's correct pronouns and gender.

Displayed here perfectly by the lovely Lauren Southern who is legally a man.

https://youtu.be/x7vHvclMgYI

An oldie but a goodie.

motco

15,956 posts

246 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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Noodle1982 said:
Quorn roast for me. Undecided on whether to go for the beef or chicken flavoured. May live dangerously and have both!
In a court case some years ago over the use of real hedgehog in Hedgehog Foods' Limited Hedgehog Flavoured crisps, it was decided that 'flavoured' meant that the actual claimed ingredient (i.e. hedgehog in this case) had to be present in the foodstuff. If, on the other hand, the product did not contain any of the item said to provide the flavour but that it was, instead, a synthetic simulation, then 'flavour' had to be used in the description. Therefore, Mr Noodle, unless your Quorn roast contains actual chicken or beef, then 'flavour' is the approved description!

Article here



gregs656

10,884 posts

181 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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Lovely and Lauren Southern are mutually exclusive concepts.

I don't think anyone here is calling for the kind of law that Canada has.

Clockwork Cupcake

74,560 posts

272 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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motco said:
In a court case some years ago over the use of real hedgehog in Hedgehog Foods' Limited Hedgehog Flavoured crisps...
CAUTION: Contains real actual dead frog. And lark's vomit.

Try the Spring Surprise.

Noodle1982

2,103 posts

106 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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motco said:
Noodle1982 said:
Quorn roast for me. Undecided on whether to go for the beef or chicken flavoured. May live dangerously and have both!
In a court case some years ago over the use of real hedgehog in Hedgehog Foods' Limited Hedgehog Flavoured crisps, it was decided that 'flavoured' meant that the actual claimed ingredient (i.e. hedgehog in this case) had to be present in the foodstuff. If, on the other hand, the product did not contain any of the item said to provide the flavour but that it was, instead, a synthetic simulation, then 'flavour' had to be used in the description. Therefore, Mr Noodle, unless your Quorn roast contains actual chicken or beef, then 'flavour' is the approved description!

Article here

As sad as it sounds I love random facts like that.

Every day is a school day!

Noodle1982

2,103 posts

106 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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gregs656 said:
Lovely and Lauren Southern are mutually exclusive concepts.

I don't think anyone here is calling for the kind of law that Canada has.
It's only a matter of time.


gregs656

10,884 posts

181 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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Noodle1982 said:
It's only a matter of time.
I don't think so, partly because I think the kind of problems the Canadian law produces are well understood.

Are you aware of Blaire White?

br d

8,400 posts

226 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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gregs656 said:
Lovely and Lauren Southern are mutually exclusive concepts.
Really? Looks pretty lovely to me.

Noodle1982

2,103 posts

106 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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gregs656 said:
Noodle1982 said:
It's only a matter of time.
I don't think so, partly because I think the kind of problems the Canadian law produces are well understood.

Are you aware of Blaire White?
Yes.

Noodle1982

2,103 posts

106 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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br d said:
gregs656 said:
Lovely and Lauren Southern are mutually exclusive concepts.
Really? Looks pretty lovely to me.
Agreed.

An attractive, intelligent, blonde conservative.

My ideal woman right there.

gregs656

10,884 posts

181 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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Noodle1982 said:
Yes.
I'm surprised she doesn't get mentioned more on here. I don't agree with all she says but I do think some of her videos are quite interesting.

_dobbo_

14,379 posts

248 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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gregs656 said:
Noodle1982 said:
Yes.
I'm surprised she doesn't get mentioned more on here. I don't agree with all she says but I do think some of her videos are quite interesting.
Because she's a transphobic islamophobic horrorshow of a human being?

Southern thinks trans people are "mentally ill".

Noodle being deliberately disingenuous with his "legally a man" bullst because that's exactly what it is, bullst.

gregs656

10,884 posts

181 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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_dobbo_ said:
Because she's a transphobic islamophobic horrorshow of a human being?

Southern thinks trans people are "mentally ill".

Noodle being deliberately disingenuous with his "legally a man" bullst because that's exactly what it is, bullst.
Read back, I was not talking about Lauren Southern - I was talking about Blaire White.


gregs656

10,884 posts

181 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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Noodle1982 said:
Agreed.

An attractive, intelligent, blonde conservative.

My ideal woman right there.
Intelligent?

I think she gives conservatives a bad name, personally.

Noodle1982

2,103 posts

106 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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_dobbo_ said:
Because she's a transphobic islamophobic horrorshow of a human being?

Southern thinks trans people are "mentally ill".

Noodle being deliberately disingenuous with his "legally a man" bullst because that's exactly what it is, bullst.
Calm down, dear.

As a side note the whole idea about lovely Lauren becoming legally a man was to show up the ridiculousness of the Canadian system.

_dobbo_

14,379 posts

248 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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gregs656 said:
_dobbo_ said:
Because she's a transphobic islamophobic horrorshow of a human being?

Southern thinks trans people are "mentally ill".

Noodle being deliberately disingenuous with his "legally a man" bullst because that's exactly what it is, bullst.
Read back, I was not talking about Lauren Southern - I was talking about Blaire White.
My bad. Apologies

_dobbo_

14,379 posts

248 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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Noodle1982 said:
Calm down, dear.

As a side note the whole idea about lovely Lauren becoming legally a man was to show up the ridiculousness of the Canadian system.
I'm perfectly calm, dear. You keep peddling your alt-right downtrodden straight white man Rebel Media message, and I'll keep calling you out for it.

Southern has no place in the "The Gender Non-binary debate" other than as an example of how not to engage. You bringing her into this thread tells me all I need to know about where you stand.

Noodle1982

2,103 posts

106 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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_dobbo_ said:
Noodle1982 said:
Calm down, dear.

As a side note the whole idea about lovely Lauren becoming legally a man was to show up the ridiculousness of the Canadian system.
I'm perfectly calm, dear. You keep peddling your alt-right downtrodden straight white man Rebel Media message, and I'll keep calling you out for it.

Southern has no place in the "The Gender Non-binary debate" other than as an example of how not to engage. You bringing her into this thread tells me all I need to know about where you stand.
Are you sat at your computer chanting ....'No Trump, no KKK, no fascist USA!!!'.....whilst dressed all in black?

Keep calling me out for my views? Grow up will you.

I've made my views clear in this thread and others. If you don't like them tough st. You're not achieving anything constructive by 'Calling them out' apart from satisfying your own righteous indignation.

The lovely Lauren who is legally a man has more of a place in this thread than many of the contributors, me included.







Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

255 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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_dobbo_ said:
Because she's a transphobic islamophobic horrorshow of a human being?

Southern thinks trans people are "mentally ill".
They may very well be a mental cause, it's not been proven conclusively one way or the other. Trans people suffer from other mental health issues significantly more than normal people (you'd probably prefer I change normal to "cis gender", but it's just plain normal).