The Gender Non-binary debate.

[Atomic12C]

George Smiley said:

Minorities need labels so that they can differentiate themselves from the majority and then complain that the majority appears to victimise them with the incorrect use of labels.

This does seem to be happening a lot these days.
There is a large liberal left wing movement trying to gain momentum in the west over the past decade, whereby the focus draws from socialism. Socialism focusses on "oppressors" and the "oppressed", which takes a modern day term of "inequality" and the format whereby minority groupings in society look at ways they can claim being oppressed by other wider members of society.

The more examples of "oppression" that can be claimed the more the movement seems to gain strength.

One comedic example where it seems to have backfired is in the case of the feminists vs those pretending to be women.
There are numerous online vids of the two "oppressed groups" fighting each other.

[George Smiley]

If a ship is sinking and the captain calls Women and Children first - should a Transwoman be afforded the special treatment over a man (the man is the most oppressed there is in reality, our only last bastion of any form of benefit being a man is being allowed to grow a beard)

[j_4m]

George Smiley said:

If a ship is sinking and the captain calls Women and Children first - should a Transwoman be afforded the special treatment over a man (the man is the most oppressed there is in reality, our only last bastion of any form of benefit being a man is being allowed to grow a beard)

"Children and people able to give birth and thus ensure the continuation of the human race first!" doesn't quite have the same ring to it.

[Clockwork Cupcake]

j_4m said:

"Children and people able to give birth and thus ensure the continuation of the human race first!" doesn't quite have the same ring to it.

Plus the fertility tests take ages to do, during which time the ship is sinking.

[descentia]

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[descentia]

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[George Smiley]

descentia said:

George Smiley said:

our only last bastion of any form of benefit being a man is being allowed to grow a beard

Don't Google Conchita Wurst or hirsutism because you'll be disappointed

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

This reminds me of when Bender Rodriguez fell inlove with a fembot trapped in a manbots body

[j_4m]

Clockwork Cupcake said:

Plus the fertility tests take ages to do, during which time the ship is sinking.

"Sorry ma'am, I'll need you to swab the inside of your vagina with this stick and then wait three months for the results before I can let you onto this lifeboat"*

• this may or may not be how female fertility is tested

[George Smiley]

j_4m said:

Clockwork Cupcake said:

Plus the fertility tests take ages to do, during which time the ship is sinking.

"Sorry ma'am, I'll need you to swab the inside of your vagina with this stick and then wait three months for the results before I can let you onto this lifeboat"*

• this may or may not be how female fertility is tested

There are other, better ways, but that takes approx. 9 months to see a result - also you might not be fertile but its still a way to find out. I suppose there is also the issue of performing under pressure and whether it can be achieved before the ship actually sinks. Not sure ferrys have the poop deck but that wouldn't make sense here, however, the decks could be awash with seamen

[pc.iow]

xjay1337 said:

AshVX220 said:

I heard a new term yesterday, a trans-gender couple are having a "theyby"

oh fk off.

He sts you not!
The freaks had an older thing, about 4 or 6 that's, apart from a stupid name i don't remember, now has decided for its self (yeah right) its not a male or female.
Talk about fking a kids head up just 'cos you're a man hating lezzer.
Even Piers Morgan was speechless after the interview.

[Clockwork Cupcake]

There's some really hateful and unpleasant language being used in some of the recent posts on this thread.

I'm pretty disgusted by it.

[_dobbo_]

George Smiley said:

There are other, better ways, but that takes approx. 9 months to see a result

You do know pregnancy can be detected in any number of ways before 9 months right? The baby doesn't come as a massive surprise.

[8.4L 154]

Clockwork Cupcake said:

There's some really hateful and unpleasant language being used in some of the recent posts on this thread.

I'm pretty disgusted by it.

[_dobbo_]

8.4L 154 said:

Clockwork Cupcake said:

There's some really hateful and unpleasant language being used in some of the recent posts on this thread.

I'm pretty disgusted by it.

Imagine being someone who actually thinks in those terms, much less actually uses them. Then holds up Piers Morgan as some sort of example.

Ten steps backward for this thread.

[AshVX220]

Clockwork Cupcake said:

There's some really hateful and unpleasant language being used in some of the recent posts on this thread.

I'm pretty disgusted by it.

Hope I didn't offend you JJ, I was just surprised by the term and wondered if you also thought it a step too far.

[George Smiley]

_dobbo_ said:

George Smiley said:

There are other, better ways, but that takes approx. 9 months to see a result

You do know pregnancy can be detected in any number of ways before 9 months right? The baby doesn't come as a massive surprise.

As if a man would hang around to find out

[Pesty]

_dobbo_ said:

8.4L 154 said:

Clockwork Cupcake said:

There's some really hateful and unpleasant language being used in some of the recent posts on this thread.

I'm pretty disgusted by it.

Imagine being someone who actually thinks in those terms, much less actually uses them. Then holds up Piers Morgan as some sort of example.

Ten steps backward for this thread.

Absolutely. Once you have gotten over that do you have any thought on this child that appears to being brainwashed by parents with an agenda?

[anonymous-user]

Pesty said:

Absolutely. Once you have gotten over that do you have any thought on this child that appears to being brainwashed by parents with an agenda?

Why should anyone engage with a who talks like that?
Best ignored.

If someone wants to debate the issue why not post something sensible?

[xjay1337]

Clockwork Cupcake said:

There's some really hateful and unpleasant language being used in some of the recent posts on this thread.

I'm pretty disgusted by it.

Some swear words offend you?

[George Smiley]

desolate said:

Pesty said:

Absolutely. Once you have gotten over that do you have any thought on this child that appears to being brainwashed by parents with an agenda?

Why should anyone engage with a who talks like that?
Best ignored.

If someone wants to debate the issue why not post something sensible?

Stop deflecting, party has asked a valid question.

Has this kids parents or whatevertheyarecalled opinions warped the non gender child? I fear a suicide in the future of a child that thought it had no sex, picked a sex, found out it was the wrong choice then tops him/her/itself