The Gender Non-binary debate.

[George Smiley]

DocJock said:

George Smiley said:

Apparently Nigel farage is racist but married a german

Which means that she is extremely likely to be the same race (Caucasian) as Nigel.

Oh so Caucasian is a race now? Is racism just whiteys vs blackies/brownies?

[Clockwork Cupcake]

I'm not sure how many more times this needs to be said, but it clearly needs to be said again.

No trans woman is going to sleep with a guy until she knows he is ok with her being trans.

Any chance we can move on now?

[George Smiley]

Clockwork Cupcake said:

I'm not sure how many more times this needs to be said, but it clearly needs to be said again.

No trans woman is going to sleep with a guy until she knows he is ok with her being trans.

Any chance we can move on now?

Do you speak for all trans people? But yes, we should move on

Is gender non-binary? Yes.

[descentia]

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[descentia]

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[George Smiley]

descentia said:

George Smiley said:

She may have been minging but in your example she was female so a different scenario yet again

You really are a retard

Never once in my life have I called someone a monger, I don't insult people based on looks, age, impairment or race.

You day I've insulted you (But womtvsay where) yet you have behaved unreasonably and used insulting language about myself and such as "minger".

We disagree but it shouldn't result in name calling

[descentia]

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[Fermit and Sexy Sarah]

In defense of George, can we not start calling people retards and s? I have a Downs sister, it's not a nice term to use.

[Clockwork Cupcake]

Fermit and Sexy Sarah said:

In defense of George, can we not start calling people retards and s? I have a Downs sister, it's not a nice term to use.

Although it pains me to find myself agreeing with George on something, I agree.

[descentia]

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[descentia]

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[George Smiley]

Clockwork Cupcake said:

Although it pains me to find myself agreeing with George on something, I agree.

We probably agree on a lot more than we don't, on this thread I think the only thing we disagree on is the hypothetical example

Oh and we disagree on the need for the cis label.

Oh and desentia would like to hear more about the porsche 928 encounter on the route Napoleon I'm prepared to forgive the name calling if you can say sorry

[_dobbo_]

George Smiley said:

I'm prepared to forgive the name calling if you can say sorry

How very magnanimous of you.

A better man might just forgive it anyway without trying to force an apology.

[Gecko1978]

George, I have followed the last few pages and I as a heterosexual male with no trans gay or other non hetrosexual experience am just confused by you.

In my uni days I would meet a girl at a club talk st for a bit get drunk an if lucky end up in bed.

That very night I would leave perhaps not recalling her name. No conversations were had eye. So would I expect her to say, hang on a sec before you go just so you know my vag is so tight because it was made from my penis. No not going to happen.

Would there be scaring down there I might ask about maybe and then she says yep u gussed it my name is not Belinda its Barry...again I doubt thats a scenario.

No I believe you fear meeting a women going home with her an discovering she still has a penis.

Has this happend to you, is it something you like the idea of or believe happens a lot. Do you holiday a lot in Thailand and cruise the sex bars.

As trans women have told you they don't sleep with men who think they are vile chics with dicks wanting to lure you into a homoerotic coupling.

So I have laid it out in crude terms I believe you wanted but really is that your fear. If it is you really are a damaged individual.

[Michaelbailey]

Is there a way to unsubscribe from a thread?

[The Li-ion King]

Clockwork Cupcake said:

Wow. It's almost as if those men are just wearing clothes.

Always amuses me how a woman can wear a t-shirt and jeans, and if she does then she's just wearing a t-shirt and jeans. But if a guy puts on a skirt then he's a cross-dresser.

It seems they don't even like the term cross dresser either



As it is just clothes as you say, just not regular trousers. These guys still want to be guys with no wish to transition, so it's just a change from shorts or trousers...

Personally I think kilts

Are more recognisable as menswear than the other outfits above, but are quite expensive...

[Halb]

Michaelbailey said:

Is there a way to unsubscribe from a thread?

click on the 'x' on your topics/my stuff page.

[Noodle1982]

Good morning all. Hope everybody is well, it's been a while.

Seeing as my last question spawned 20+ pages of discussion and debate i thought i'd throw out another one for this glorious Sunday morning.

I know the whole sex vs gender topic has been discussed at length on here but i don't think the following point has been discussed.

If sex and gender are different and are not linked why do sex change procedures exist?

If genitals, hormones and other characteristics (facial/body hair, breasts etc) are not indicative of sex then doesn't that make transitioning (HRT and sex reassignment surgeries) unnecessary?

I hope that makes sense (i'm Welsh, i'm hungover!) and i hope i can it can produce another discussion with contributing ideas from both sides of the metaphorical coin.

Drosodd i chi.....

[Halb]

Did anyone watch the Joanna Lumley in INdia thing? She visited the Indian transgender community. It's large. It wasn't a long segment, but it showed an insight into the Indian side.

[George Smiley]

Halb said:

Did anyone watch the Joanna Lumley in INdia thing? She visited the Indian transgender community. It's large. It wasn't a long segment, but it showed an insight into the Indian side.

Could it be in such places as India and Thailand, a lot of the sex swap is due to finances? A female can make money in the sex trade