The Gender Non-binary debate.

[Mothersruin]

To paraphrase someone far wiser than I - While we're fannying about with this st, evil is getting ready to exploit and take over.

[WinstonWolf]

I couldn't help but raise a chuckle...

[JagLover]

WinstonWolf said:

I couldn't help but raise a chuckle...

[BlackLabel]

John Lewis has become the first major department store to ditch ‘boys’ and ‘girls’ labels from children’s clothing.The chain has also removed ‘boys’ and ‘girls’ signs from the childrenswear sections at the store to avoid ‘reinforcing gender stereotypes’. From now on, labels on the clothing will say either ‘Boys & Girls or ‘Girls & Boys’ and will be on all John Lewis clothing from newborn to 14 years. Even dresses with flowers and skirts will carry the unisex labels.

[FlyingMeeces]

Good!

[mickthemechanic]

No it is not good.

[Henners]

Is there an Apache Helicopter section for people of my identity?

[mickthemechanic]

Henners said:

Is there an Apache Helicopter section for people of my identity?

Yes I think you can be anything you choose to be day to day. At the moment I am a canoe.

[grumbledoak]

At least people buying clothes for Apache helicopters and canoes will be able to find the correct section. Henceforth people who just want clothes for boys (or girls) will have to search through every damn item.

[Henners]

grumbledoak said:

At least people buying clothes for Apache helicopters and canoes will be able to find the correct section. Henceforth people who just want clothes for boys (or girls) will have to search through every damn item.

Frikkin chaos!

[Lance Catamaran]

We're gonna need a bigger poster.....

[El Guapo]

That list doesn't seem very inclusive - I thought there were 63 types of non-binary now (or is it 71, it's so hard to keep up).

[GroundEffect]

anonymous said:

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Because the sheer concept of boys and girls clothing is pretty silly. What makes pink for girls and blue for boys? Absolutely nothing - completely arbitrary.

Likewise toys. That's the more important one and it's the key reason we have not enough engineers of the women variety. From Day Dot they're brought up with "nurturing" toys, not constructive ones.

[BJG1]

anonymous said:

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because there's no need to split clothes by gender, especially not in under 14s given there's no real size difference between an average male and female of the same age.

If you want to wear a floral dress you can, I'm sure more parents will choose to buy them for girls than boys, but there's no need to put a dinosaur jumper (or a floral dress for that matter) in a section pertaining to a particular gender.

I think it's a great thing, personally. A small step but one in the right direction of doing away with pre-conceived notions of gender roles in society.

[BJG1]

grumbledoak said:

At least people buying clothes for Apache helicopters and canoes will be able to find the correct section. Henceforth people who just want clothes for boys (or girls) will have to search through every damn item.

Or they just go to the children's clothes section and pick out clothes they like for their child?

[Halb]

BJG1 said:

Or they just go to the children's clothes section and pick out clothes they like for their child?

LIke woooooow man, you're just crazzzzzyyyyyy

[The Surveyor]

If the LGBT community are promoting the non-binary cause, why do they allow 'lesbian' in their name, but support the removal of any gender specific description.

Surly lesbians are simply 'gay'?

[BJG1]

The Surveyor said:

If the LGBT community are promoting the non-binary cause, why do they allow 'lesbian' in their name, but support the removal of any gender specific description.

Surly lesbians are simply 'gay'?

It's not really the 'LGBT community' pushing this, young people of all persuasions are generally much more liberal in their views on gender and sexuality and plenty of straight couples raise their children with far fewer gendered expectations placed upon them these days.

[The Surveyor]

BJG1 said:

It's not really the 'LGBT community' pushing this, young people of all persuasions are generally much more liberal in their views on gender and sexuality and plenty of straight couples raise their children with far fewer gendered expectations placed upon them these days.

Nope, not convinced by that at all. I think there are people who are misguided in their desire to be trendy parents, there always has been. More significantly what we are seeing is an organised but equally misguided 'political correctness' push from the left.

[BJG1]

The Surveyor said:

Nope, not convinced by that at all. I think there are people who are misguided in their desire to be trendy parents, there always has been. More significantly what we are seeing is an organised but equally misguided 'political correctness' push from the left.

The left or the LGBT community? Which is it? People with kids can be left-wing too, it's not just the gays, mate.