The Gender Non-binary debate.

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8.4L 154

5,530 posts

254 months

Tuesday 14th November 2017
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Mothersruin said:
Anti trans agenda?

Certainly not something I've seen in the media. They appear to fall over themselves to give airtime to a very small minority.
There is very little positive in the reporting of trans issues in the media. They certainly fall over themselves in reporting anti trans rhetoric.

ETA this teacher story for instance certainly didn't start as a pro trans anti teacher story. There has been some backlash to the original storyline however

Edited by 8.4L 154 on Tuesday 14th November 11:39

Mothersruin

8,573 posts

100 months

Tuesday 14th November 2017
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8.4L 154 said:
Mothersruin said:
Anti trans agenda?

Certainly not something I've seen in the media. They appear to fall over themselves to give airtime to a very small minority.
There is very little positive in the reporting of trans issues in the media. They certainly fall over themselves in reporting anti trans rhetoric
We must read/watch/listen to different stuff.

8.4L 154

5,530 posts

254 months

Tuesday 14th November 2017
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Mothersruin said:
8.4L 154 said:
Mothersruin said:
Anti trans agenda?

Certainly not something I've seen in the media. They appear to fall over themselves to give airtime to a very small minority.
There is very little positive in the reporting of trans issues in the media. They certainly fall over themselves in reporting anti trans rhetoric
We must read/watch/listen to different stuff.
Do you really think all the storylines in the media about teachers loosing their jobs, drag queens teaching 2 yr olds, the increasing number of child referrals in the NHS are reported as pro trans?

They are all stories written to stir up anti trans sentiment. At the very least they achieved "not another trans story, fed up with this minority" sentiment. But were designed for outrage.

Edited by 8.4L 154 on Tuesday 14th November 11:57

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

240 months

Tuesday 14th November 2017
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8.4L 154 said:
Mothersruin said:
8.4L 154 said:
Mothersruin said:
Anti trans agenda?

Certainly not something I've seen in the media. They appear to fall over themselves to give airtime to a very small minority.
There is very little positive in the reporting of trans issues in the media. They certainly fall over themselves in reporting anti trans rhetoric
We must read/watch/listen to different stuff.
Do you really think all the storylines in the media about teachers loosing their jobs, drag queens teaching 2 yr olds, the increasing number of child referrals in the NHS are reported as pro trans?

They are all stories written to stir up anti trans sentiment. At the very least they achieved "not another trans story, fed up with this minority" sentiment. But were designed for outrage.

Edited by 8.4L 154 on Tuesday 14th November 11:57
Here we go, another oppressed minority...

8.4L 154

5,530 posts

254 months

Tuesday 14th November 2017
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WinstonWolf said:
Here we go, another oppressed minority...
And an entirely predictable boorish comment from WinstonWolf

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

240 months

Tuesday 14th November 2017
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8.4L 154 said:
WinstonWolf said:
Here we go, another oppressed minority...
And an entirely predictable boorish comment from WinstonWolf
thumbup Thank you biggrin

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 14th November 2017
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Why are those of you who are bothered by trans people bothered by them? Why does another person's sexual identity make you so cross? It's much the same with homophobia - why are some people bothered by the sexual orientation of others?

Those of you who think that gender identity issues are just made up, do some reading - there is a large volume of peer reviewed scientific work that indicates that some people have real issues as to a mismatch between their biological sex and their sense of identity. It is possible that a few people are posing, bandwagon jumping, and attention seeking, but being trans etc is a reality for a number of people. Society adjusting to this is a sensible thing..

Those who object to men wearing skirts should study some history and geography. Men used to wear skirts and dresses in western societies, and still do in some non western societies. Modern western dress codes aren't genetically programmed or given by God.

Roofless Toothless

5,676 posts

133 months

Tuesday 14th November 2017
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You knew where you were in my day.



Funkycoldribena

7,379 posts

155 months

Tuesday 14th November 2017
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Breadvan72 said:
Why are those of you who are bothered by trans people bothered by them? Why does another person's sexual identity make you so cross? It's much the same with homophobia - why are some people bothered by the sexual orientation of others?

Those of you who think that gender identity issues are just made up, do some reading - there is a large volume of peer reviewed scientific work that indicates that some people have real issues as to a mismatch between their biological sex and their sense of identity. It is possible that a few people are posing, bandwagon jumping, and attention seeking, but being trans etc is a reality for a number of people. Society adjusting to this is a sensible thing..

Those who object to men wearing skirts should study some history and geography. Men used to wear skirts and dresses in western societies, and still do in some non western societies. Modern western dress codes aren't genetically programmed or given by God.
Because it leads to teachers being sacked over trivial st?

Europa1

10,923 posts

189 months

Tuesday 14th November 2017
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Breadvan72 said:
Why are those of you who are bothered by trans people bothered by them? Why does another person's sexual identity make you so cross? It's much the same with homophobia - why are some people bothered by the sexual orientation of others?

Those of you who think that gender identity issues are just made up, do some reading - there is a large volume of peer reviewed scientific work that indicates that some people have real issues as to a mismatch between their biological sex and their sense of identity. It is possible that a few people are posing, bandwagon jumping, and attention seeking, but being trans etc is a reality for a number of people. Society adjusting to this is a sensible thing..

Those who object to men wearing skirts should study some history and geography. Men used to wear skirts and dresses in western societies, and still do in some non western societies. Modern western dress codes aren't genetically programmed or given by God.
Get out of here with your calm, reasoned, ,evidence-based approach!

I'm waiting for one of the posters form the previous page (no prizes for guessing which) to take another break from drawing crude hunting scenes on the walls and make another enlightened contribution.

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 14th November 2017
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Yeah, and look at this effete woopsy -


WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

240 months

Tuesday 14th November 2017
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Breadvan72 said:
Yeah, and look at this effete woopsy -

Not exactly pretending to be a woman though...

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 14th November 2017
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Funkycoldribena said:
Because it leads to teachers being sacked over trivial st?
If you mean that God-botherer that has been suspended, do you know the outcome of the hearing that is scheduled for tomorrow? Inside info, or time machine?

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 14th November 2017
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WinstonWolf said:
Not exactly pretending to be a woman though...
Eddie Izzard doesn't pretend to be a woman either, and he is rocky tough enough to run multiple marathons. Why feel so challenged by people expressing themselves?

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

240 months

Tuesday 14th November 2017
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Breadvan72 said:
WinstonWolf said:
Not exactly pretending to be a woman though...
Eddie Izzard doesn't pretend to be a woman either, and he is rocky tough enough to run multiple marathons. Why feel so challenged by people expressing themselves?
Not challenged in the slightest, just bored with everyone banging on about it.

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 14th November 2017
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That must explain this sort of tosh, I suppose -

WinstonWolf said:
Halb said:
WinstonWolf said:
Do we really want to be raising a bunch of sissys?
What's a sissy?
I'm not allowed to say now, that would be 'hate crime'.

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

240 months

Tuesday 14th November 2017
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Breadvan72 said:
That must explain this sort of tosh, I suppose -

WinstonWolf said:
Halb said:
WinstonWolf said:
Do we really want to be raising a bunch of sissys?
What's a sissy?
I'm not allowed to say now, that would be 'hate crime'.

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 14th November 2017
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Saw it a few weeks ago. Got any arguments?

Mothersruin

8,573 posts

100 months

Tuesday 14th November 2017
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I thought BV did conveyancing a spot of probate.

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 14th November 2017
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My arse is flat, but not that flat.