The Future of Power Generation in Great Britain

[jet_noise]

turbobloke said:

Worthy Worthington Works Wonders, even more than a Double Diamond.

Whitbread big head Trophy bitter the pint that thinks it's a quart!

[turbobloke]

jet_noise said:

turbobloke said:

Worthy Worthington Works Wonders, even more than a Double Diamond.

Whitbread big head Trophy bitter the pint that thinks it's a quart!

Mackeson stout, by jolly it does ya good!

Fizzzzzzzzzzzzz! Next!

[Ali G]

A good head?

[LongQ]

Problems solved. This discovery seems to fix everything - although reading the article does suggest that the writer may not be the best source of material to understand the concepts written about.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-583...

Anyway, sounds like you just buy one of these get almost free and endless power and a sunshade for the entire garden as an added bonus. Excellent.

[silentbrown]

LongQ said:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-583...

'The battery is connected to a Stirling Engine that is converting the heat into kinetic energy, and connected to a generator it produces electricity.'

Stirling engine! Can't let that nugget go without posting this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGlDsFAOWXc

We have one of these on top of the woodburner. Lovely gadget and "conversation piece" (ugh!), but I'll admit the piezo-electric ones seem more effective.

https://www.stirlingengine.co.uk/d.asp?product=VUL...

[Toltec]

LongQ said:

Problems solved. This discovery seems to fix everything - although reading the article does suggest that the writer may not be the best source of material to understand the concepts written about.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-583...

Anyway, sounds like you just buy one of these get almost free and endless power and a sunshade for the entire garden as an added bonus. Excellent.

A quick calculation shows that 150kWh would be the energy needed to heat 184kgs of water from 50C to 700C. Aluminium would need to be closer to a ton, though hydrogen has over three times the heat capacity of water so maybe that is the idea of using a hydride, if the alloy has even 10% by mass it would more than double the capacity of aluminium, oxygen is about the same as aluminium so it appears to be the hydrogen in water doing the heavy lifting.

Might not be total BS then, though the 100 years probably mean the store will last that long not that it could keep the hydride alloy at 750C for a 100 years without losing any energy! A stirling engine that can produce 10s of kW is going to be a bit of a beast.

[Ali G]

Sorry.

A 'quick' calculation was determined by Bryony (calculus must have bin her ladyships finest subject)

And there is feck all that anyone can do aboot it now!

[Gary C]

Ali G said:

There really is only one point.

Politicians ain't got a clue.

Think that's a truism that applies to any discussion

[LongQ]

For some reason this outfit came to mind.

Now I know why I had not heard anything about them for a while.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steorn

I expect Big Oil did for them in the end. Or maybe the wind boys not liking the competition for the raw materials of magnet manufacture.

[Halb]

Tidal power will play a part?

[LongQ]

Paddy_N_Murphy said:

Or the laws of physics?

Well yes, but where's the conspiracy theory in that? I have a reputation to support here Paddy!

And in any case its part of the rules of the game that any "good" ideas that disappear without trace must have been killed off by Big Oil, The Coal industry (when that existed) or the Koch Brothers.

The idea that the concept may only have been around because someone was enough of a "wideboy" to find people (governments for preference but otherwise anyone with more money than knowledge and, perhaps, a taste for tax credits of some sort) who would fund their lifestyle for a few years.

The "masses" like fortune tellers and horoscopes.

Such schemes associated with science probably went mainstream when alchemy became popular.

The Steorn chap had a good run. I wonder what he's doing now?

ETA:

Apparently he decided to play poker on line in 2016. If you can believe that.

http://dispatchesfromthefuture.com/2016/11/steorn-...

Edited by LongQ on Saturday 21st July 12:33

[Halb]

I think big oil shut down this guy too
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Bessler

I would however give some credence to Nik Tesla the man who invented the 20th century.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_perpetual...

[Ali G]

Surprising that green blob science has not gone fully in perptuum mobile - it does have the usual renewable characteristics.

[Rostfritt]

Paddy_N_Murphy said:

What do you actually mean by ‘greenblob’ ?

He is trying to turn it into a thing everyone says to refer to environmentalists. It isn't working.

[Ali G]

Concern for the environment should not be confused with radical activist environmentalists!

Pre-pending everything with "green" does not imbue any guarantee of anything other than virtue-seeking (and not everything green is good).

There does need to be a balance between pragmatism and environmental concerns, but ultimately to be of any use (and with reference to this thread) power generation does need to work otherwise resources are being squandered - which is neither "green" nor useful.

[turbobloke]

Paddy_N_Murphy said:

So what do you mean for us tomorrow understand when you trot out ‘greenblob’ ?

Never mind any other meaning, what does that gibberish mean?

Just in case: "Green Blob is a durable underwater green LED light fishing system which creates a massive underwater green glow that will soon be surrounded with circling bait fish."

[Ali G]

A loose grouping consisting of radical activists, the professionally concerned, the wooly minded and the wishful thinking all self-identifying as 'green'.

[Halb]

And not a baddie in the new Aquaman film.

[legzr1]

Paddy_N_Murphy said:

Then perhaps a pointless word needs forming to categorise those with their head in the sands, the pig headed, the trolls and those fearful of change ??

Turboblobs?

[turbobloke]

legzr1 said:

Paddy_N_Murphy said:

Then perhaps a pointless word needs forming to categorise those with their head in the sands, the pig headed, the trolls and those fearful of change ??

Turboblobs?

Awesome post - convinced immediately by the reasoning power on display, never mind the gobbledigook.

Fearful of change was high in comedy value and comprehensible, so at least that's an improvement.