The Future of Power Generation in Great Britain
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turbobloke said:
At least we're OK in UK.
2030 will arrive on the back of political pipedreams with no current plan and only wishful thinking / hope / faith / prayer etc as a strategy.
Thankfully the minimum (that's what political estimates are) cost of net zero is also trivial
at over £1 trillion according to the Chancellor
"In a letter to the prime minister seen by the Financial Times, the Chancellor said the cost meant that less money would be available for schools, police, the NHS and other areas of public spending. He also warned that the target would render some industries “economically uncompetitive”
Lucky us!
and if every country in the world does the same we might see a drop in temperature around 0.05c, yay 2030 will arrive on the back of political pipedreams with no current plan and only wishful thinking / hope / faith / prayer etc as a strategy.
Thankfully the minimum (that's what political estimates are) cost of net zero is also trivial
at over £1 trillion according to the Chancellor"In a letter to the prime minister seen by the Financial Times, the Chancellor said the cost meant that less money would be available for schools, police, the NHS and other areas of public spending. He also warned that the target would render some industries “economically uncompetitive”
Lucky us!
rscott said:
turbobloke said:
The USA is no better, their 'final' wind energy rules permit thousands of eagle deaths. Wonderful!
Just get your permit and start killing.
https://www.americanexperiment.org/2018/06/xcel-en...
From that year old article:-Just get your permit and start killing.
https://www.americanexperiment.org/2018/06/xcel-en...
Xcel has applied for a five year federal permit to kill eagles under a process established by the Obama administration. So how many dead eagles does the utility consider to be acceptable in exchange for the project’s subsidies?
Their tentative answer: About one per year, or up to five dead bald eagles over a five-year permit period.
Turbobot to the rescue!
dickymint said:
rscott said:
turbobloke said:
It's amazing, just as The Guardian (!) predicted:
bats are being killed in collisions with wind turbines in the UK each month, despite ecological impact assessments
(ass essments more like and there's no need for collisions as pressure changes destroy bat lungs so no impacts are needed)
Anything newer than that 3 year old article you failed to post a link to?bats are being killed in collisions with wind turbines in the UK each month, despite ecological impact assessments
(ass essments more like and there's no need for collisions as pressure changes destroy bat lungs so no impacts are needed)
As regards "old article" I take it nothing has improved then?
It seems to repeat on a 3-4 day cycle.
Tomorrow may be One World Government day. He is determinedly trying to turn this thread into a useless echo chamber. There have been people in the energy industry posting here at times but they tend to lose interest when news for the real world risks Tbots little bubble and he starts spamming nonsense to drown it all out.
And yes, see my answers to Tbots posts on Monday, plenty of improvements.
3.1416 said:
Wayoftheflower said:
3.1416 said:
The only echo chamber that is harmful is the BBC.
evidence? 
Wayoftheflower said:
3.1416 said:
Wayoftheflower said:
3.1416 said:
The only echo chamber that is harmful is the BBC.
evidence? 
3.1416 said:
Wayoftheflower said:
3.1416 said:
Wayoftheflower said:
3.1416 said:
The only echo chamber that is harmful is the BBC.
evidence? 
This was looking to 2050 not 2030.
The UK will only be able to achieve net zero emissions by 2050 if "immediate action" is taken to overhaul transport, heating, and electricity systems in the UK. That is the stark assessment offered today by National Grid, as the company becomes the latest influential organisation to warn that reaching net zero emissions will require large swathes of the UK's industrial and commercial energy demand to electrify, at the same time as millions of electric cars and electric heat pumps are deployed across the country.
The NG's realists point out that such a major overhaul of the UK's energy system would push up electricity demand from ca 350TWh / year today to 491TWh / year in 2050, well above the 420TWh a year Grid assesses will be needed under a 2C warming trajectory.
save energy to save the planet to use more energy to ummm
2C warming trajectory
The UK will only be able to achieve net zero emissions by 2050 if "immediate action" is taken to overhaul transport, heating, and electricity systems in the UK. That is the stark assessment offered today by National Grid, as the company becomes the latest influential organisation to warn that reaching net zero emissions will require large swathes of the UK's industrial and commercial energy demand to electrify, at the same time as millions of electric cars and electric heat pumps are deployed across the country.
The NG's realists point out that such a major overhaul of the UK's energy system would push up electricity demand from ca 350TWh / year today to 491TWh / year in 2050, well above the 420TWh a year Grid assesses will be needed under a 2C warming trajectory.
save energy to save the planet to use more energy to ummm 2C warming trajectory El stovey said:
3.1416 said:
rscott]urbobloke][url said:
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I think Turbobot needs a reboot. The pointless spamming of the thread is getting worse.
Do you a full ban, or will the temporary one suffice.I think Turbobot needs a reboot. The pointless spamming of the thread is getting worse.
Reported.
Why do you?
3.1416 said:
El stovey said:
3.1416 said:
rscott]urbobloke][url said:
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I think Turbobot needs a reboot. The pointless spamming of the thread is getting worse.
Do you a full ban, or will the temporary one suffice.I think Turbobot needs a reboot. The pointless spamming of the thread is getting worse.
Reported.
Why do you?
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