Man with staples in his face unemployed

Man with staples in his face unemployed

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Shaw Tarse

31,544 posts

204 months

Monday 22nd May 2017
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If I need an Ambiwlans I won't turn them away if they have tattoos.

teapea

693 posts

187 months

Monday 22nd May 2017
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Yeh, it's not a snobby thing, just gives the wrong impression in the same way a green mohawk would.

If you went to see a solicitor or chartered accountant and they had a green mohawk you'd probably not use them.
Same applies with visible tattoos.

In my business, the reality is a lot of our customers wouldn’t like them, if the customers had no problem with them, then happily employ people with them, but until that day, I wouldn't employ anyone customer facing with visible tattoos or piercings.

joshleb

1,544 posts

145 months

Monday 22nd May 2017
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I'm only 25 and a design engineer.

None of my colleagues in any of my previous jobs have had hand or neck tattoos, and I don't think they would be employed if he did.

When he have out of work functions and short sleeved shirts come out, always a surprise to see what tats people have.

I just feel that visible tattoos and face piercings are not acceptable for an office and client facing environment where first impressions matter.

battered

4,088 posts

148 months

Monday 22nd May 2017
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Shaw Tarse said:
If I need an Ambiwlans I won't turn them away if they have tattoos.
That's because it's an emergency. When I got scraped off the road I was resuscitated by a bloke who had just come out after 10 years inside. I wouldn't have chosen him then and I certainly wouldn't employ him to look after my house and garden while I was away, but while I was lying on the ground unconscious he was the best on offer until the paramedics arrived.

Shaw Tarse

31,544 posts

204 months

Monday 22nd May 2017
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battered said:
Shaw Tarse said:
If I need an Ambiwlans I won't turn them away if they have tattoos.
That's because it's an emergency. When I got scraped off the road I was resuscitated by a bloke who had just come out after 10 years inside. I wouldn't have chosen him then and I certainly wouldn't employ him to look after my house and garden while I was away, but while I was lying on the ground unconscious he was the best on offer until the paramedics arrived.
Genuinely, you judge people because the have been "inked"? (ignoring your circumstances)

Mastodon2

13,826 posts

166 months

Monday 22nd May 2017
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Despite the silly piercings, I think this guy's problem is expecting a highly skilled job to build a career when he has done nothing to deserve it. What skills does he have? If he goes into interviews with that sense of entitlement it's no wonder they're showing him the door - if he even gets to interview, because who would waste an hour interviewing him? His CV is probably blank. No education by the sounds of it and couldn't hold down a job in Poundstretchers.

randlemarcus

13,530 posts

232 months

Monday 22nd May 2017
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Shaw Tarse said:
battered said:
Shaw Tarse said:
If I need an Ambiwlans I won't turn them away if they have tattoos.
That's because it's an emergency. When I got scraped off the road I was resuscitated by a bloke who had just come out after 10 years inside. I wouldn't have chosen him then and I certainly wouldn't employ him to look after my house and garden while I was away, but while I was lying on the ground unconscious he was the best on offer until the paramedics arrived.
Genuinely, you judge people because the have been "inked"? (ignoring your circumstances)
Of course. Everyone does.

Some think "gharstly little man", some think "very cool ink", but both are judging.

deckster

9,630 posts

256 months

Monday 22nd May 2017
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Shaw Tarse said:
Genuinely, you judge people because the have been "inked"? (ignoring your circumstances)
Of course. Along with how tall they are, how fat they are, what they are wearing, the way they talk, the viewpoints they hold. Consciously or not, it all goes to form your opinion of them.

cb31

1,144 posts

137 months

Monday 22nd May 2017
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battered said:
When I visit my French friends they all look at my unadorned arms in amazement because their experience is that Brits all have them. I've even been asked why not, somehow "I don't much like them" seems a rather lame explanation.
My wife had a bit of light-hearted trouble with a middle eastern border guard a few years ago. She got the hump when he kept calling her Shaheed, she pointed out her name was Shead, pronounced Sheed, and she was British. Border guard wasn't having it as she had no 'pictures' on her skin.

I personally think they are a sign of a fashion victim and that they look stupid, there are going to be some ridiculous looking old people in a few years.

ZedLeg

12,278 posts

109 months

Monday 22nd May 2017
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I will say that my tattoos did cause me some problems in Japan. Some nightclubs and bars have quite strict policies on visible tattoos as they're associated with gangsters. My tattoos combined with my size (I'm a big 'un) meant some questioning on the door. Most places were cool once they realised we were just tourists though.

dandarez

13,294 posts

284 months

Monday 22nd May 2017
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cb31 said:
battered said:
When I visit my French friends they all look at my unadorned arms in amazement because their experience is that Brits all have them. I've even been asked why not, somehow "I don't much like them" seems a rather lame explanation.
My wife had a bit of light-hearted trouble with a middle eastern border guard a few years ago. She got the hump when he kept calling her Shaheed, she pointed out her name was Shead, pronounced Sheed, and she was British. Border guard wasn't having it as she had no 'pictures' on her skin.

I personally think they are a sign of a fashion victim and that they look stupid, there are going to be some ridiculous looking old people in a few years.
What 'oldies' of today get thrown at them by current 'youngies' is hardly much more than the 'ageist' card being thrown.

Can you just imagine the comments of the new 'young' in 2055 on the current batch (who by then of course will be 'oldies')?

Life?
Not as we oldies know it now Jim!
hehe


battered

4,088 posts

148 months

Monday 22nd May 2017
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Shaw Tarse said:
Genuinely, you judge people because the have been "inked"? (ignoring your circumstances)
If my solicitor had "ACAB" on his neck, "cut here", Love and hate on his knuckles and a row of three tears down his cheek, yes, I'd judge him. Wouldn't you?

A lizard on his upper arm? No, crack on.

Yipper

5,964 posts

91 months

Monday 22nd May 2017
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cb31 said:
battered said:
When I visit my French friends they all look at my unadorned arms in amazement because their experience is that Brits all have them. I've even been asked why not, somehow "I don't much like them" seems a rather lame explanation.
My wife had a bit of light-hearted trouble with a middle eastern border guard a few years ago. She got the hump when he kept calling her Shaheed, she pointed out her name was Shead, pronounced Sheed, and she was British. Border guard wasn't having it as she had no 'pictures' on her skin.

I personally think they are a sign of a fashion victim and that they look stupid, there are going to be some ridiculous looking old people in a few years.
Yes, body art has gone in and out of fashion for the past ~15k years. Tatts and piercings will no doubt go out of fashion again at some point in the coming years. For example, it was Queen Victoria's husband who liked poking a ring through his bellend in the 1800s, almost nobody did it in the 1900s, and it is popularish again in the 2000s.

Rich_W

12,548 posts

213 months

Monday 22nd May 2017
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Place I know recently hired a low IQ, broken english Bulgarian guy. Part of his job involved meeting customers. He had this enormous tattoo on his neck (cause he was thick!) So the company said we'll hire you since you're personable, but then made him wear a giant plaster every day to hide it

Eventually he decided he didn't want to wear the plaster anymore so stopped. 2 days later they dismissed him. laugh

mike9009

7,028 posts

244 months

Monday 22nd May 2017
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Image is important to those with tattoos and piercing, but what they need to realise is image is important to prospective employers.too.

skwdenyer

16,579 posts

241 months

Monday 22nd May 2017
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Biker 1 said:
Depends what your business is & who your clients are: trendy pub with hipster customers would be OK for staff to be bearded/pierced/tattooed, but I think you'd have problems being a doctor or other top professional.
I think there are quite a lot of top professionals with beardssmile

Pothole

34,367 posts

283 months

Monday 22nd May 2017
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I can't help but judge him on appearance, but if the subtitles are accurate, he's also thick as mince:

"I feel like the quality of jobs have gone down...there is not enough variant of jobs"

Edited by Pothole on Tuesday 23 May 00:31

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

234 months

Monday 22nd May 2017
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randlemarcus said:
Of course. Everyone does.

Some think "gharstly little man", some think "very cool ink", but both are judging.
Amusingly within 20 years the CEO of Barclays is likely to have a tattoo...

People have tattoos. Some are ill advised, some spectacular and many between.

If you want to be a barrister I suggest a nice back piece and why not have a few piercings, but below the neck? Turning up in court with a spiders Web on your face and ring in your eyebrow is strictly for those not being paid to be there.

I've only ever seen a few native south American tribes people in real life and seen many from round the World on TV who wear ear stretchers. This, I believe, is for cultural and religious reasons. Craig from Leominster, who turns a fetching shade of lobster at the first hint of a hot day, looks like a tt. That shows bad judgement in my book and therefore the only western person I have seen make it look suitable for them was the homeless bloke who kept his Clipper in his void.

jdw100

4,126 posts

165 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2017
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Try turning up sporting a neck tattoo and facial piercings to meet the CEO of a major life-sciences company in, say, the USA or Japan to sell them several £million of consultancy services and see how that goes down.

For a decent job you have to think much wider than how you might be perceived in just the UK.

Sa Calobra

37,195 posts

212 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2017
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I'd employ him if he had the ability to do the job or potential to be good. I'd employ people with tattoos too (non offensive). Unless you want a drone we are all individuals.