Explosions reported in Manchester?
Discussion
tescorank said:
So now it appears the fire brigade bosses prevented fire engines from attending for 90 minutes.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.manchesterevening...
It might well be that the police/other agencies asked the FB to stay at the RV point. Once there are sufficient resources on scene to do what is required, in this case deal with the injured, then everyone else should be kept away. Preservation of the scene is vital in such cases. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.manchesterevening...
I can appreciate the feelings of the crews, but perhaps that wasn't seen as important at the time.
Does anybody else feel, like me, that it's time the news programmes like BBC Breakfast and GMB, and all the news outlets, stopped 'Reporting' over and over, the same details they reported 15 minutes ago?
They have, to me, used this for the past few days to fill in their airtime and I feel this is not only disrespectful to the victims and their families, it keeps the pain and suffering raw, and repeatedly posting up pictures of the people who died must be incredibly painful to the Relatives!
I know there is an off button, but was there any need for Victoria Derbyshire to stand on the same spot in Manchester yesterday for hours, repeating the same script over and over?
By all means, give us updates if relevant and not security conscious, but not the same stuff over and over to fill in airtime.
Just My View.
They have, to me, used this for the past few days to fill in their airtime and I feel this is not only disrespectful to the victims and their families, it keeps the pain and suffering raw, and repeatedly posting up pictures of the people who died must be incredibly painful to the Relatives!
I know there is an off button, but was there any need for Victoria Derbyshire to stand on the same spot in Manchester yesterday for hours, repeating the same script over and over?
By all means, give us updates if relevant and not security conscious, but not the same stuff over and over to fill in airtime.
Just My View.
Short Grain said:
Does anybody else feel, like me, that it's time the news programmes like BBC Breakfast and GMB, and all the news outlets, stopped 'Reporting' over and over, the same details they reported 15 minutes ago?
They have, to me, used this for the past few days to fill in their airtime and I feel this is not only disrespectful to the victims and their families, it keeps the pain and suffering raw, and repeatedly posting up pictures of the people who died must be incredibly painful to the Relatives!
I know there is an off button, but was there any need for Victoria Derbyshire to stand on the same spot in Manchester yesterday for hours, repeating the same script over and over?
By all means, give us updates if relevant and not security conscious, but not the same stuff over and over to fill in airtime.
Just My View.
the media are scum in my view. It is now a badge of shame. Look what they did in the US with the leaks. Gutter trash all of them. It's a freak show on TV, social media. It's all getting out of control. These boards are tame compared They have, to me, used this for the past few days to fill in their airtime and I feel this is not only disrespectful to the victims and their families, it keeps the pain and suffering raw, and repeatedly posting up pictures of the people who died must be incredibly painful to the Relatives!
I know there is an off button, but was there any need for Victoria Derbyshire to stand on the same spot in Manchester yesterday for hours, repeating the same script over and over?
By all means, give us updates if relevant and not security conscious, but not the same stuff over and over to fill in airtime.
Just My View.
Mothersruin said:
Smiler. said:
Young muslim lad speaking on R4 (PM programme), apparently knew the accused.
I heard this guy in the car - sounded to me like he was blaming every man and his dog for not pandering to their culture and belief system and as such it's not surprising that some would want blow stuff up. Everyone else's fault.Edited by Mothersruin on Thursday 25th May 00:13
The problem is that many hold the misguided belief, that those that carry out these acts of violence, and those who tacitly support such acts, or do nothing when such acts are carried out in the name of their `religion' are really just like us. When they are absolutely not.
It seems to odd to see `some' welcoming a religion, which is essentially medieval, to these shores which believes women are second class citizens, who are not allowed to show themselves in public, not allowed into the circles of power in that culture, and which practices. FMG, and where it is the women who is punished (stoned to death) if `they' have been raped , they are not even allowed to drive a car. Or where gays can be thrown off tall buildings, or beheaded. and where it is seen as acceptable to carry placards saying Islam will dominate the world, and all unbelievers will be beheaded.
The fact that many, even those in high places, are not able to see, that they are not like us, is why so many forays into Islamic countries have ended in failure. Such people go into these regions thinking they are helping (at least one side) to deal with the problems that religious extremism causes. only to find that both sides then turn on their `would be' saviors, because those trying to help (at least one side) are not of the faith.
the West will never solve the issue, and even centuries of trying to has ended without success.
It is for Islam to deal with these problem without what it sees as interference (no matter how well intentioned) from the West, the question is, especially when its stated aim is to dominate the world, does it really want to?
As for the West, if another culture appears to want to make itself look like a venomous snake, think like a venomous snake, act like a venomous snake, and kill like a venomous snake, then on balance best for the West, to leave that culture well alone, until such time as that culture, has done enough to prove to the world that really it is not a venomous snake. If such cultures want to kill themselves in religious wars, then so be it, it that is what `they' want to do. All the West should do is concentrate on is stopping such cultures, from infiltrating `its' territories.
I am tired of the media now in full apologetic mode and dragging people in front of the Camera to condemn the act..
For those who are totally against Internment of suspected terrorists or sympathisers how many more tragic events or dead children is a line in the sand.
We have a choice in either rounding up suspects or training thousands of more people to keep them under surveillance 24/7 which will not necessarily prevent them from causing harm.
Just the Husband of a woman killed and whilst he is obviously angry he is right in suggesting now is the time to put the pressure on the people who would do our children harm. .
For those who are totally against Internment of suspected terrorists or sympathisers how many more tragic events or dead children is a line in the sand.
We have a choice in either rounding up suspects or training thousands of more people to keep them under surveillance 24/7 which will not necessarily prevent them from causing harm.
Just the Husband of a woman killed and whilst he is obviously angry he is right in suggesting now is the time to put the pressure on the people who would do our children harm. .
Short Grain said:
Does anybody else feel, like me, that it's time the news programmes like BBC Breakfast and GMB, and all the news outlets, stopped 'Reporting' over and over, the same details they reported 15 minutes ago?
They have, to me, used this for the past few days to fill in their airtime and I feel this is not only disrespectful to the victims and their families, it keeps the pain and suffering raw, and repeatedly posting up pictures of the people who died must be incredibly painful to the Relatives!
I know there is an off button, but was there any need for Victoria Derbyshire to stand on the same spot in Manchester yesterday for hours, repeating the same script over and over?
By all means, give us updates if relevant and not security conscious, but not the same stuff over and over to fill in airtime.
Just My View.
It's been like this for decades. I remember the incessant reporting of the Penlee lifeboat disaster (particularly by the BBC). I just switched off (metaphorically) as whilst I could appreciate that a terrible event had occurred, I couldn't stomach the apparent wallowing in the details that the press seem to relish.They have, to me, used this for the past few days to fill in their airtime and I feel this is not only disrespectful to the victims and their families, it keeps the pain and suffering raw, and repeatedly posting up pictures of the people who died must be incredibly painful to the Relatives!
I know there is an off button, but was there any need for Victoria Derbyshire to stand on the same spot in Manchester yesterday for hours, repeating the same script over and over?
By all means, give us updates if relevant and not security conscious, but not the same stuff over and over to fill in airtime.
Just My View.
It's worse now with 24hr news & social media (both things which I tend to avoid).
Short Grain said:
Does anybody else feel, like me, that it's time the news programmes like BBC Breakfast and GMB, and all the news outlets, stopped 'Reporting' over and over, the same details they reported 15 minutes ago?
They have, to me, used this for the past few days to fill in their airtime and I feel this is not only disrespectful to the victims and their families, it keeps the pain and suffering raw, and repeatedly posting up pictures of the people who died must be incredibly painful to the Relatives!
I know there is an off button, but was there any need for Victoria Derbyshire to stand on the same spot in Manchester yesterday for hours, repeating the same script over and over?
By all means, give us updates if relevant and not security conscious, but not the same stuff over and over to fill in airtime.
Just My View.
Completely agree. It only serves to highten and spread the "terror". They have, to me, used this for the past few days to fill in their airtime and I feel this is not only disrespectful to the victims and their families, it keeps the pain and suffering raw, and repeatedly posting up pictures of the people who died must be incredibly painful to the Relatives!
I know there is an off button, but was there any need for Victoria Derbyshire to stand on the same spot in Manchester yesterday for hours, repeating the same script over and over?
By all means, give us updates if relevant and not security conscious, but not the same stuff over and over to fill in airtime.
Just My View.
Short Grain said:
Does anybody else feel, like me, that it's time the news programmes like BBC Breakfast and GMB, and all the news outlets, stopped 'Reporting' over and over, the same details they reported 15 minutes ago?
They have, to me, used this for the past few days to fill in their airtime and I feel this is not only disrespectful to the victims and their families, it keeps the pain and suffering raw, and repeatedly posting up pictures of the people who died must be incredibly painful to the Relatives!
I know there is an off button, but was there any need for Victoria Derbyshire to stand on the same spot in Manchester yesterday for hours, repeating the same script over and over?
By all means, give us updates if relevant and not security conscious, but not the same stuff over and over to fill in airtime.
Just My View.
They have, to me, used this for the past few days to fill in their airtime and I feel this is not only disrespectful to the victims and their families, it keeps the pain and suffering raw, and repeatedly posting up pictures of the people who died must be incredibly painful to the Relatives!
I know there is an off button, but was there any need for Victoria Derbyshire to stand on the same spot in Manchester yesterday for hours, repeating the same script over and over?
By all means, give us updates if relevant and not security conscious, but not the same stuff over and over to fill in airtime.
Just My View.
They will pick s
t out of pepper. Just like these boards.This will go on and on.
Trabi601 said:
Lordbenny said:
48 hours and we've done what? We've rightly cried, we've expressed regret, we've held hands and we've lit candles.
Theresa May - that motherfker murderer has just returned from Libya. You have the intel to know where that was trained, you can see the camp by satellite. Even if you get it a bit wrong, send in the RAF and bomb the fk out of them or resign. We claim we have a defence, well defend! Show the world that we aren't French, that you can't fk with us, that we WILL NOT STAND for enemies operating within us. I've said it before but it if our Govt won't then let the people sort it. Those poor kids, their unimaginably distressed parents. It's war - take the war to them and show them you can't fk with us. Furious but we are so weak! How would Churchill react? You owe it to those poor kids!
That approach has worked so, so well up 'till now, hasn't it?Theresa May - that motherf
ker murderer has just returned from Libya. You have the intel to know where that was trained, you can see the camp by satellite. Even if you get it a bit wrong, send in the RAF and bomb the fk out of them or resign. We claim we have a defence, well defend! Show the world that we aren't French, that you can't fk with us, that we WILL NOT STAND for enemies operating within us. I've said it before but it if our Govt won't then let the people sort it. Those poor kids, their unimaginably distressed parents. It's war - take the war to them and show them you can't fk with us. Furious but we are so weak! How would Churchill react? You owe it to those poor kids!I'd agree that knee jerk reactions are generally unwise, but this is not a knee jerk - it follows numerous 'lone wolf' style (actually not lone wolf) atacks both in the UK and in our European neighbours. Yes, we should all carry on our lives regardless, but you cannot expect the patience, tolerance and courage of a nation to continue forever if they feel government and the law is not protecting them for real and present danger.
Short Grain said:
Does anybody else feel, like me, that it's time the news programmes like BBC Breakfast and GMB, and all the news outlets, stopped 'Reporting' over and over, the same details they reported 15 minutes ago?
They have, to me, used this for the past few days to fill in their airtime and I feel this is not only disrespectful to the victims and their families, it keeps the pain and suffering raw, and repeatedly posting up pictures of the people who died must be incredibly painful to the Relatives!
I know there is an off button, but was there any need for Victoria Derbyshire to stand on the same spot in Manchester yesterday for hours, repeating the same script over and over?
By all means, give us updates if relevant and not security conscious, but not the same stuff over and over to fill in airtime.
Just My View.
Yet here you are on a thread that has 90-odd pages, all on the same matter.They have, to me, used this for the past few days to fill in their airtime and I feel this is not only disrespectful to the victims and their families, it keeps the pain and suffering raw, and repeatedly posting up pictures of the people who died must be incredibly painful to the Relatives!
I know there is an off button, but was there any need for Victoria Derbyshire to stand on the same spot in Manchester yesterday for hours, repeating the same script over and over?
By all means, give us updates if relevant and not security conscious, but not the same stuff over and over to fill in airtime.
Just My View.
Derek Smith said:
Short Grain said:
Does anybody else feel, like me, that it's time the news programmes like BBC Breakfast and GMB, and all the news outlets, stopped 'Reporting' over and over, the same details they reported 15 minutes ago?
They have, to me, used this for the past few days to fill in their airtime and I feel this is not only disrespectful to the victims and their families, it keeps the pain and suffering raw, and repeatedly posting up pictures of the people who died must be incredibly painful to the Relatives!
I know there is an off button, but was there any need for Victoria Derbyshire to stand on the same spot in Manchester yesterday for hours, repeating the same script over and over?
By all means, give us updates if relevant and not security conscious, but not the same stuff over and over to fill in airtime.
Just My View.
Yet here you are on a thread that has 90-odd pages, all on the same matter.They have, to me, used this for the past few days to fill in their airtime and I feel this is not only disrespectful to the victims and their families, it keeps the pain and suffering raw, and repeatedly posting up pictures of the people who died must be incredibly painful to the Relatives!
I know there is an off button, but was there any need for Victoria Derbyshire to stand on the same spot in Manchester yesterday for hours, repeating the same script over and over?
By all means, give us updates if relevant and not security conscious, but not the same stuff over and over to fill in airtime.
Just My View.
MaxSo said:
Short Grain said:
Does anybody else feel, like me, that it's time the news programmes like BBC Breakfast and GMB, and all the news outlets, stopped 'Reporting' over and over, the same details they reported 15 minutes ago?
They have, to me, used this for the past few days to fill in their airtime and I feel this is not only disrespectful to the victims and their families, it keeps the pain and suffering raw, and repeatedly posting up pictures of the people who died must be incredibly painful to the Relatives!
I know there is an off button, but was there any need for Victoria Derbyshire to stand on the same spot in Manchester yesterday for hours, repeating the same script over and over?
By all means, give us updates if relevant and not security conscious, but not the same stuff over and over to fill in airtime.
Just My View.
Completely agree. It only serves to highten and spread the "terror". They have, to me, used this for the past few days to fill in their airtime and I feel this is not only disrespectful to the victims and their families, it keeps the pain and suffering raw, and repeatedly posting up pictures of the people who died must be incredibly painful to the Relatives!
I know there is an off button, but was there any need for Victoria Derbyshire to stand on the same spot in Manchester yesterday for hours, repeating the same script over and over?
By all means, give us updates if relevant and not security conscious, but not the same stuff over and over to fill in airtime.
Just My View.
With regards to the media, I have thought for ages that their need to rush to the scene of 'news' is totally absurd!
Why on earth do they need to set up camp outside a building because a meeting is happening inside, or someone has been fired or whatever?
It bothers me most when the BBC do it as it is such a waste of my money, all those outside broadcast staff/vehicles/equipment are completely unnecessary 90% of the time!
Why on earth do they need to set up camp outside a building because a meeting is happening inside, or someone has been fired or whatever?
It bothers me most when the BBC do it as it is such a waste of my money, all those outside broadcast staff/vehicles/equipment are completely unnecessary 90% of the time!
Derek Smith said:
Yet here you are on a thread that has 90-odd pages, all on the same matter.
First post on the matter Derek and I merely skim through after reading a few pages, not the whole thread. If people choose to read 90 pages and comment, then that's their choice. Hours and hours of repeating the same facts on TV News channels is, to me, too much and merely filling air time.Last posting by me Derek, promise.
Short Grain said:
MaxSo said:
Short Grain said:
Does anybody else feel, like me, that it's time the news programmes like BBC Breakfast and GMB, and all the news outlets, stopped 'Reporting' over and over, the same details they reported 15 minutes ago?
They have, to me, used this for the past few days to fill in their airtime and I feel this is not only disrespectful to the victims and their families, it keeps the pain and suffering raw, and repeatedly posting up pictures of the people who died must be incredibly painful to the Relatives!
I know there is an off button, but was there any need for Victoria Derbyshire to stand on the same spot in Manchester yesterday for hours, repeating the same script over and over?
By all means, give us updates if relevant and not security conscious, but not the same stuff over and over to fill in airtime.
Just My View.
Completely agree. It only serves to highten and spread the "terror". They have, to me, used this for the past few days to fill in their airtime and I feel this is not only disrespectful to the victims and their families, it keeps the pain and suffering raw, and repeatedly posting up pictures of the people who died must be incredibly painful to the Relatives!
I know there is an off button, but was there any need for Victoria Derbyshire to stand on the same spot in Manchester yesterday for hours, repeating the same script over and over?
By all means, give us updates if relevant and not security conscious, but not the same stuff over and over to fill in airtime.
Just My View.
The continued reporting has in no way 'numbed' the awful facts.
Pan Pan Pan said:
Their culture, and belief system is nothing like those of the west. If the placards, and chants of those who visibly follow Islam are to be believed, it seems that that particular `religion does not want peace and love, and to integrate with other cultures, it wants to dominate. And for all those who have not checked history, and think that all this has come about because of what happened in the Crusades, it is suggested they go back, and check who `actually' started such offensive actions in support of `their' religion.
The problem is that many hold the misguided belief, that those that carry out these acts of violence, and those who tacitly support such acts, or do nothing when such acts are carried out in the name of their `religion' are really just like us. When they are absolutely not.
It seems to odd to see `some' welcoming a religion, which is essentially medieval, to these shores which believes women are second class citizens, who are not allowed to show themselves in public, not allowed into the circles of power in that culture, and which practices. FMG, and where it is the women who is punished (stoned to death) if `they' have been raped , they are not even allowed to drive a car. Or where gays can be thrown off tall buildings, or beheaded. and where it is seen as acceptable to carry placards saying Islam will dominate the world, and all unbelievers will be beheaded.
The fact that many, even those in high places, are not able to see, that they are not like us, is why so many forays into Islamic countries have ended in failure. Such people go into these regions thinking they are helping (at least one side) to deal with the problems that religious extremism causes. only to find that both sides then turn on their `would be' saviors, because those trying to help (at least one side) are not of the faith.
the West will never solve the issue, and even centuries of trying to has ended without success.
It is for Islam to deal with these problem without what it sees as interference (no matter how well intentioned) from the West, the question is, especially when its stated aim is to dominate the world, does it really want to?
As for the West, if another culture appears to want to make itself look like a venomous snake, think like a venomous snake, act like a venomous snake, and kill like a venomous snake, then on balance best for the West, to leave that culture well alone, until such time as that culture, has done enough to prove to the world that really it is not a venomous snake. If such cultures want to kill themselves in religious wars, then so be it, it that is what `they' want to do. All the West should do is concentrate on is stopping such cultures, from infiltrating `its' territories.
That's all very well, but how do we get our hands on their oil?The problem is that many hold the misguided belief, that those that carry out these acts of violence, and those who tacitly support such acts, or do nothing when such acts are carried out in the name of their `religion' are really just like us. When they are absolutely not.
It seems to odd to see `some' welcoming a religion, which is essentially medieval, to these shores which believes women are second class citizens, who are not allowed to show themselves in public, not allowed into the circles of power in that culture, and which practices. FMG, and where it is the women who is punished (stoned to death) if `they' have been raped , they are not even allowed to drive a car. Or where gays can be thrown off tall buildings, or beheaded. and where it is seen as acceptable to carry placards saying Islam will dominate the world, and all unbelievers will be beheaded.
The fact that many, even those in high places, are not able to see, that they are not like us, is why so many forays into Islamic countries have ended in failure. Such people go into these regions thinking they are helping (at least one side) to deal with the problems that religious extremism causes. only to find that both sides then turn on their `would be' saviors, because those trying to help (at least one side) are not of the faith.
the West will never solve the issue, and even centuries of trying to has ended without success.
It is for Islam to deal with these problem without what it sees as interference (no matter how well intentioned) from the West, the question is, especially when its stated aim is to dominate the world, does it really want to?
As for the West, if another culture appears to want to make itself look like a venomous snake, think like a venomous snake, act like a venomous snake, and kill like a venomous snake, then on balance best for the West, to leave that culture well alone, until such time as that culture, has done enough to prove to the world that really it is not a venomous snake. If such cultures want to kill themselves in religious wars, then so be it, it that is what `they' want to do. All the West should do is concentrate on is stopping such cultures, from infiltrating `its' territories.
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