Explosions reported in Manchester?

Explosions reported in Manchester?

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dandarez

13,294 posts

284 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2017
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rscott said:
dandarez said:
Pothole said:
dandarez said:
rscott said:
Yipper said:
Rumours of another bomb now found at a Manchester station.
Source for this?
Or is it as valid as your claim the terrorist threat level was just increased when it hasn't changed for a year..
What is it with you?

Terror threat is now SEVERE.

https://www.mi5.gov.uk/threat-levels

Perhaps it's a fake gov.uk site, eh?
It has been severe for a long time, not just upped today.
Ok, that's fair. I was convinced it was 'substantial' - I wonder how many could answer correctly the list of terror threats?
But all the terror descriptions are a bit weird to me. I always thought 'critical' was the highest, but having just looked it's apparently 'exceptional'.
Which is ok, except you're trying to tell the majority of the populace. Perhaps the highest should be 'F HELL!' or if you don't want to swear, then 'OMG!' - everyone would understand that!

Words today, eh?
I never got any critical comments at school because I was exceptional!
There are 3 separate threat levels- international terrorist risk, then 2 for Northern Ireland related terrorism (1 for in NI, the other for in GB).

I'd have thought it would make more sense to number the threat levels, rather than the current names.
I'd certainly agree with numbered threat levels. I think everyone would! (My OMG! was a tad flippant).
But it's probably too simple for those in charge to contemplate.

BlueHave

4,651 posts

109 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2017
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rambo19 said:
Sadly, the bomber will be known to police/security services.
Sadly thats a given. He or she will have been arrested for some minor offence and be on a terrorist watch list.

In the coming days police will raid his or her house and that of the immediate and extended family who will claim they knew absolutely nothing whatsoever.

He or she will probably have been radicalised over the internet and no one in the local area or anyone he associated with will have had any idea he or she was planning such an atrocity


North West Tom

11,529 posts

178 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2017
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Yipper said:
Reports of 23 dead. 10 children under 18.
So the rest could be parents waiting outside for their kids frown

Yipper

5,964 posts

91 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2017
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IS allegedly threatening more vehicle attacks in London in the past few hours.

https://mobile.twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/866...

https://mobile.twitter.com/williamcraddick/status/...

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2017
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Seriously Yipper, give it a rest.

I am off to bed now, very sad day for my home city.

Deptford Draylons

10,480 posts

244 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2017
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Yipper said:
IS allegedly threatening more vehicle attacks in London in the past few hours.

https://mobile.twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/866...

https://mobile.twitter.com/williamcraddick/status/...
Stock response from such people. Lets not do their work for them , huh.


Edited by Deptford Draylons on Tuesday 23 May 02:25

rscott

14,773 posts

192 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2017
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Yipper said:
IS allegedly threatening more vehicle attacks in London in the past few hours.

https://mobile.twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/866...

https://mobile.twitter.com/williamcraddick/status/...
Good old Jack Posobiec. Reporter for The Rebel and the guy who insisted Macron's campaign insurance (something required in France for all candidates) was actually a life insurance policy..


You missed this equally believable tweet - https://twitter.com/Nxvxskxt/status/86680370803791...

Joratk

432 posts

111 months

Yipper

5,964 posts

91 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2017
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Video of the ensuing stampede. Everyone panicking. Scary stuff.

https://mobile.twitter.com/crazy_kyia/status/86680...

Gareth79

7,687 posts

247 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2017
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BlueHave said:
The tannoy announcer in the arena telling people ' Please leave the arena calmly, there is no problem'

Suppose you could say he was trying to prevent a stampede but there seemed to be a complete lack of urgency.
I think it was a very good decision. Adults would have killed more children climbing over them getting out than in the explosion.

People seemed to be leaving quickly anyway and the announcer made it clear that wanted to clear the building and given there was no immediate threat (fire, active gunman) it seemed sensible.

Edited by Gareth79 on Tuesday 23 May 02:38

BlueHave

4,651 posts

109 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2017
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Yipper said:
Video of the ensuing stampede. Everyone panicking. Scary stuff.

https://mobile.twitter.com/crazy_kyia/status/86680...
Unless your caught in a situation like that you have no idea how you would react.

I can tell you that after a few seconds of fear your instinct just tells you to run and get away from the situation.

Staying calm is not what your mind wants you to do.

Edited by BlueHave on Tuesday 23 May 02:41

Pothole

34,367 posts

283 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2017
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BlueHave said:
The tannoy announcer in the arena telling people ' Please leave the arena calmly, there is no problem'

Suppose you could say he was trying to prevent a stampede but there seemed to be a complete lack of urgency.
That's the whole point, surely? you want people to do something calmly you ask them calmly.

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2017
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Deptford Draylons said:
rambo19 said:
Sadly, the bomber will be known to police/security services.
Highly likely. No one has worked out what to do with the British citizens here who they suspect of being capable of such events.
Nothing at all will change after this, not a jot,
There are plenty of options, but there is not enough appetite and too many apologists for those options to be considered.

I had a discussion about some of these options on the Westminster attack thread and was met with some quite ridiculous opposition and insults.

What was interesting though, was that nobody on that thread could name a single person who'd committed terrorism in the UK who wasn't already known. I'd be very surprised if the perpetrator(s) of this weren't already known for terrorism related crimes/activities.

On another note, I'm fairly sure this will drive home the message that we really cannot afford to allow our security/armed forces to be eroded any further - something the labour administration seems determined to do.


Dan_1981

17,404 posts

200 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2017
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Sad news to wake up too.

Knew it would happen eventually, doesn't reduce the shock when it finally does.

jonnyb

2,590 posts

253 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2017
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Terrible news, my thoughts are with the victims this morning.

I will be holding my family that little bit closer today.

Robertj21a

16,478 posts

106 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2017
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Summary and update, courtesy of the BBC



Greater Manchester Police say 19 are confirmed dead in suspected terror attack

About 50 people were injured in the blast at Manchester Arena following an Ariana Grande concert

Police have set up an emergency number for those concerned about friends and relatives: 0161 8569400

Prime Minister Theresa May says her thoughts are with the victims, describing the attack as 'appalling'

There will be no trains to or from Manchester Victoria station on Tuesday

All national general election campaigning is suspended.

The PM will chair a meeting of the government's emergency Cobra committee later

The singer says she is 'broken', adding: 'I don't have words'

princealbert23

2,579 posts

162 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2017
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Just waiting for the usual crew of 3 to block the thread up with pointless speculation and argueing about minor points. I have already seen one of them up. It is almost as if they have an agenda when it comes to terrorism.

WestyCarl

3,265 posts

126 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2017
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Blatant targeting of young kids, I didn't think it possible but this is a new low.

My thoughts for everyone involved, including the brave emergency services.

Wayne E Edge

545 posts

152 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2017
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princealbert23 said:
Just waiting for the usual crew of 3 to block the thread up with pointless speculation and argueing about minor points. I have already seen one of them up. It is almost as if they have an agenda when it comes to terrorism.
We all know who that is. He'd bend over backwards to try and deflect blame from the Muslim perpetrators. I agree totally with you, it is odd.