Explosions reported in Manchester?
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False alarm, judging by this :- https://www.thamesvalley.police.uk/news/general/th...
TVP said:
Thames Valley Police was called to High Wycombe Railway Station after reports that a man was acting suspiciously at the rear of a train.
The 2.55pm from London Marylebone to Oxford made an unscheduled stop at High Wycombe Railway Station, arriving at platform two at about 3.20pm.
The train was evacuated by Thames Valley Police firearms officers and other passengers were cleared from the platforms.
Two men were stopped and checked at the scene. Following enquiries the men have been released.
No-one has been arrested or injured and police are now leaving the scene.
Please contact National Rail Enquiries for latest details on train departures either via http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/ or 03457 48 49 50.
We would like to thank the public for their vigilance and for bringing potential suspicious activities to our attention.
The 2.55pm from London Marylebone to Oxford made an unscheduled stop at High Wycombe Railway Station, arriving at platform two at about 3.20pm.
The train was evacuated by Thames Valley Police firearms officers and other passengers were cleared from the platforms.
Two men were stopped and checked at the scene. Following enquiries the men have been released.
No-one has been arrested or injured and police are now leaving the scene.
Please contact National Rail Enquiries for latest details on train departures either via http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/ or 03457 48 49 50.
We would like to thank the public for their vigilance and for bringing potential suspicious activities to our attention.
Road closure in Wigan (again) and bomb squad called
http://news.sky.com/story/wigan-road-evacuated-for...
http://news.sky.com/story/wigan-road-evacuated-for...
del mar said:
Don't go to a mosque that is Saudi funded - surely that is not hard for UK muslims to work out ?
If they didn't go then Saudi Arabia would stop funding mosques. Surely all these mosques are already empty anyway .....
If nobody goes how can they be accused of spreading the right / wrong message ?
The government are avoiding their responsibility here. Ban the Wahabbi mosques. But they won't and we all know why.If they didn't go then Saudi Arabia would stop funding mosques. Surely all these mosques are already empty anyway .....
If nobody goes how can they be accused of spreading the right / wrong message ?
Edited by del mar on Monday 29th May 18:38
As for why people go to these mosques, they attract a younger audience, many are inclusive (in a way that rises above the historical ethnic divisions of mosques) and are run far more professionally with a programme of activities and events that appeal.
I could name you two UK based Islamic organisations I would see banned tomorrow. People like me have been reporting it to the government for years. They won't act against them and organisations like them and until they do we are going to get attack after attack after attack.
Ariana Grande to return to Manchester this Sunday with Justin Bieber, Miley Cyrus and Coldplay
Telegraph said:
Some of the big name stars supporting Grande at the concert, which will take place at the Emirates Old Trafford cricket ground, home of Lancashire Cricket Club, include Justin Bieber, Miley Cyrus, Coldplay, Pharrell Williams and Take That.
Katy Perry will also perform, as will Usher, and former One Direction star Niall Horan.
According to the organisers, "All net ticket proceeds of the show will go directly to the We Love Manchester Emergency Fund".
Katy Perry will also perform, as will Usher, and former One Direction star Niall Horan.
According to the organisers, "All net ticket proceeds of the show will go directly to the We Love Manchester Emergency Fund".
BlackLabel said:
Ariana Grande to return to Manchester this Sunday with Justin Bieber, Miley Cyrus and Coldplay
Cool.Telegraph said:
Some of the big name stars supporting Grande at the concert, which will take place at the Emirates Old Trafford cricket ground, home of Lancashire Cricket Club, include Justin Bieber, Miley Cyrus, Coldplay, Pharrell Williams and Take That.
Katy Perry will also perform, as will Usher, and former One Direction star Niall Horan.
According to the organisers, "All net ticket proceeds of the show will go directly to the We Love Manchester Emergency Fund".
Katy Perry will also perform, as will Usher, and former One Direction star Niall Horan.
According to the organisers, "All net ticket proceeds of the show will go directly to the We Love Manchester Emergency Fund".
minky monkey said:
"include Justin Bieber, Miley Cyrus, Coldplay, Pharrell Williams and Take That."
Haven't they suffered enough?
I'm pretty sure that many people would like to see that concert and the line up.Haven't they suffered enough?
Let's see Take That - massive fanbase with women of a certain age. Coldplay appeal to many. Likewise Miley Cyrus and Pharrell Williams. Justin Bieber - adored by girls who grew up with him.
RedTrident said:
The government are avoiding their responsibility here. Ban the Wahabbi mosques. But they won't and we all know why.
As for why people go to these mosques, they attract a younger audience, many are inclusive (in a way that rises above the historical ethnic divisions of mosques) and are run far more professionally with a programme of activities and events that appeal.
I could name you two UK based Islamic organisations I would see banned tomorrow. People like me have been reporting it to the government for years. They won't act against them and organisations like them and until they do we are going to get attack after attack after attack.
That's an interesting post, RedTrident - it sounds as though this is an area you have some knowledge of. Is it something you can expand on a little? There seems to be a constant link in many similar threads that seem to highlight a specific branch within the religion that is stoking the fires, as it were.As for why people go to these mosques, they attract a younger audience, many are inclusive (in a way that rises above the historical ethnic divisions of mosques) and are run far more professionally with a programme of activities and events that appeal.
I could name you two UK based Islamic organisations I would see banned tomorrow. People like me have been reporting it to the government for years. They won't act against them and organisations like them and until they do we are going to get attack after attack after attack.
e21Mark said:
Even when 30 000 Muslims came onto the streets to voice their anti extremist message the coverage was minimal at best.
Has this happened? Genuine question, because I would dearly love to be able to confirm it. 30,000 people is a big demo! Perhaps you were thinking of this?http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/more-than-30000-ahmadiyya-muslims-from-across-the-world-meet-in-the-uk-to-reject-isis-and-islamic-a7191306.html
Edited by andymadmak on Wednesday 31st May 08:53
andymadmak said:
e21Mark said:
Even when 30 000 Muslims came onto the streets to voice their anti extremist message the coverage was minimal at best.
Has this happened? Genuine question, because I would dearly love to be able to confirm it. 30,000 people is a big demo! Smaller march on Oxford Street - http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/ashura-day-t...
rscott said:
andymadmak said:
e21Mark said:
Even when 30 000 Muslims came onto the streets to voice their anti extremist message the coverage was minimal at best.
Has this happened? Genuine question, because I would dearly love to be able to confirm it. 30,000 people is a big demo! Smaller march on Oxford Street - http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/ashura-day-t...
e21Mark said:
NoIP said:
minky monkey said:
"include Justin Bieber, Miley Cyrus, Coldplay, Pharrell Williams and Take That."
Haven't they suffered enough?
Haven't they suffered enough?
I liked it even if no-one else did.
Someone on another forum suggested the Gallagher brothers should put their differences aside and appear as well. A good idea, we'll finally get to see the Liam Gallagher - Robbie Williams handbag-fest.
CoolHands said:
"MOST"............?MikeT66 said:
RedTrident said:
The government are avoiding their responsibility here. Ban the Wahabbi mosques. But they won't and we all know why.
As for why people go to these mosques, they attract a younger audience, many are inclusive (in a way that rises above the historical ethnic divisions of mosques) and are run far more professionally with a programme of activities and events that appeal.
I could name you two UK based Islamic organisations I would see banned tomorrow. People like me have been reporting it to the government for years. They won't act against them and organisations like them and until they do we are going to get attack after attack after attack.
That's an interesting post, RedTrident - it sounds as though this is an area you have some knowledge of. Is it something you can expand on a little? There seems to be a constant link in many similar threads that seem to highlight a specific branch within the religion that is stoking the fires, as it were.As for why people go to these mosques, they attract a younger audience, many are inclusive (in a way that rises above the historical ethnic divisions of mosques) and are run far more professionally with a programme of activities and events that appeal.
I could name you two UK based Islamic organisations I would see banned tomorrow. People like me have been reporting it to the government for years. They won't act against them and organisations like them and until they do we are going to get attack after attack after attack.
The Saudi teachings are now widespread across the UK. The organisations they've created have members and affiliates that include civil servants, politicians, respected community servants etc.
Especially in the Labour heartlands they've infiltrated the party membership and even have MPs linked directly to these organisations.
What would you say if I said to you that a few years ago our government banned a hate preacher that was scheduled to enter the UK to undertake a series of fundraising dinners for an organisation he is senior member of (evidenced with clear associations with AQ) and that organisation has multiple senior British Muslim politicians as members?
Or how about a serving white Labour MP who is happy to pose for pictures with the brother of a convicted Islamist terrorist from his own constituency? Said brother is also a member of this organisation, tried and failed to 'Trojan Horse' a school and also runs a food bank. There is a historical pattern of such organisations gaining legitimacy in communities through 'community' work.
Why would the MP do such a thing? Perhaps he didn't know. Perhaps he knows he needs not to upset them as they have a strong voting block in the local constituency Labour Party and he did a deal with them to get the party nomination.
There's more, much more. I watched Question Time last week. The Muslim lady who brought up the Saudi mosques, have a look at how some of the more conservatively dressed Muslims reacted. Also the white gentleman who read the leaflet out from the Didsbury mosque.
The government needs to act. They are not doing. What they need to do is straightforward. Its not even complicated. Instead they're passing responsibility.
1. Ban x,y and z organisations and prohibit members from such organisations from public office etc
2. Immediately ban the Saudis from any involvement in the teaching of UK children (you'd shed a tear if you saw the numbers of UK Muslim children being sent to private schools set up by these guys) never mind the mosques. They are brain washing a generation.
3. Prohibit any foreign born Imam from teaching in a UK mosque. The Didsbury mosque Imam at the very least fought alongside the jihadist in Libya. There's a FT article on it. You'll have to decide why more isn't being made of this.
These 3 actions are steps we can as a nation take to help solve the problem, they are ALL completely in the UK government's capabilities. The Prime Minister knows all of this, she was Home Secretary. I can only think that UK-Saudi relations will suffer if we passed legislation.
Politically, its the Labour Party that has most to lose because they've been aligned with these organisations at a community level for generations.
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