Explosions reported in Manchester?

[Charlie Hoskins]

I hope you are right.

[TTwiggy]

AFAIK we don't give out 'full life' terms very often in this country, as we tend to adopt the sort of joined-up thinking that understands that a prisoner with no hope of ever leaving is not the sort of person you want to have to deal with inside.

[BlackLabel]

Meanwhile over in Sheffield.....

beeb said:

A community radio station has been taken off air for broadcasting more than 25 hours of lectures by an alleged al-Qaeda leader.
Sheffield-based Iman FM had its licence suspended by Ofcom for playing the lectures by radical American Muslim cleric Anwar al-Awlaki.
The regulator said parts of the material was "likely to encourage or incite crime or lead to disorder".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-40532030

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anwar_al-Awlaki

[Charlie Hoskins]

BlackLabel said:

Meanwhile over in Sheffield.....

beeb said:

A community radio station has been taken off air for broadcasting more than 25 hours of lectures by an alleged al-Qaeda leader.
Sheffield-based Iman FM had its licence suspended by Ofcom for playing the lectures by radical American Muslim cleric Anwar al-Awlaki.
The regulator said parts of the material was "likely to encourage or incite crime or lead to disorder".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-40532030

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anwar_al-Awlaki

How many arrests were made as a result of this criminal act ?

[rscott]

Charlie Hoskins said:

BlackLabel said:

Meanwhile over in Sheffield.....

beeb said:

A community radio station has been taken off air for broadcasting more than 25 hours of lectures by an alleged al-Qaeda leader.
Sheffield-based Iman FM had its licence suspended by Ofcom for playing the lectures by radical American Muslim cleric Anwar al-Awlaki.
The regulator said parts of the material was "likely to encourage or incite crime or lead to disorder".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-40532030

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anwar_al-Awlaki

How many arrests were made as a result of this criminal act ?

What offence have they committed? Reports suggest they breached the condition of their licence, which is why it was suspended.

[pc.iow]

Charlie Hoskins said:

PotatoSalad said:

dudleybloke said:

This got stopped before he could blow up an Elton John concert.

http://metro.co.uk/2017/07/03/teenager-jailed-for-...

metro said:

jailed for life with a minimum term of 16 years and six months

So he's not jailed for life then.

So...
19 + 16.5 = a 35 year old angry unemployable loon, further radicalised by his time inside.
Great.

Its time a party with balls discussed bringing back the death penalty for such scum.

Minor point but sixteen my arse!

[del mar]

rscott said:

Charlie Hoskins said:

BlackLabel said:

Meanwhile over in Sheffield.....

beeb said:

A community radio station has been taken off air for broadcasting more than 25 hours of lectures by an alleged al-Qaeda leader.
Sheffield-based Iman FM had its licence suspended by Ofcom for playing the lectures by radical American Muslim cleric Anwar al-Awlaki.
The regulator said parts of the material was "likely to encourage or incite crime or lead to disorder".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-40532030

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anwar_al-Awlaki

How many arrests were made as a result of this criminal act ?

What offence have they committed? Reports suggest they breached the condition of their licence, which is why it was suspended.

"Incite crime" that is good one, what sort of crime were Al Qaeda supporters of - Stealing car steroes ?

[BlackLabel]

It would depend on the exact content of the speeches but people have been jailed for sharing, on Facebook, Anwar al-Awlaki speeches. Sharing them on the radio is no different to this albeit in this case the radio station are claiming this was all an innocent mistake.

courtnews said:

A Muslim extremist who used Instagram and Facebook to spread terror videos by ISIS and Al Qaeda is facing years behind bars today (Tues). Sabbir Miah, 24, was first arrested in December after he posted propaganda films featuring extremist cleric Anwar Al-Awlaki and jihadi commander Abu Usama al Maghrabi.

http://courtnewsuk.co.uk/facebook-fundo-faces-jail/

courtnews said:

A supporter of jailed hate preacher Anjem Choudary was jailed for 18 months today (FRI) for sharing ISIS propaganda videos on Facebook and Twitter. Ashvin Gohill, 37, posted links to speeches by Iraqi jihadi Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi – the leader of so-called Islamic State – and extremist preacher Anwar Al-Awlaki

http://courtnewsuk.co.uk/extremist-jailed-sharing-isis-propaganda/

[Charlie Hoskins]

rscott said:

Charlie Hoskins said:

BlackLabel said:

Meanwhile over in Sheffield.....

beeb said:

A community radio station has been taken off air for broadcasting more than 25 hours of lectures by an alleged al-Qaeda leader.
Sheffield-based Iman FM had its licence suspended by Ofcom for playing the lectures by radical American Muslim cleric Anwar al-Awlaki.
The regulator said parts of the material was "likely to encourage or incite crime or lead to disorder".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-40532030

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anwar_al-Awlaki

How many arrests were made as a result of this criminal act ?

What offence have they committed? Reports suggest they breached the condition of their licence, which is why it was suspended.

How can you possibly defend this ?
Oh, its you.
Explains everything.

Being subjected to 25 hours of lectures is enough to drive anyone to blow themselves mind. Clever tactic.

[rscott]

Charlie Hoskins said:

rscott said:

Charlie Hoskins said:

BlackLabel said:

Meanwhile over in Sheffield.....

beeb said:

A community radio station has been taken off air for broadcasting more than 25 hours of lectures by an alleged al-Qaeda leader.
Sheffield-based Iman FM had its licence suspended by Ofcom for playing the lectures by radical American Muslim cleric Anwar al-Awlaki.
The regulator said parts of the material was "likely to encourage or incite crime or lead to disorder".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-40532030

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anwar_al-Awlaki

How many arrests were made as a result of this criminal act ?

What offence have they committed? Reports suggest they breached the condition of their licence, which is why it was suspended.

How can you possibly defend this ?
Oh, its you.
Explains everything.

Being subjected to 25 hours of lectures is enough to drive anyone to blow themselves mind. Clever tactic.

You wanted them arrested - I asked what you wanted them arrested for. At no point did I defend their actions.

[Charlie Hoskins]

rscott said:

Charlie Hoskins said:

rscott said:

Charlie Hoskins said:

BlackLabel said:

Meanwhile over in Sheffield.....

beeb said:

A community radio station has been taken off air for broadcasting more than 25 hours of lectures by an alleged al-Qaeda leader.
Sheffield-based Iman FM had its licence suspended by Ofcom for playing the lectures by radical American Muslim cleric Anwar al-Awlaki.
The regulator said parts of the material was "likely to encourage or incite crime or lead to disorder".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-40532030

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anwar_al-Awlaki

How many arrests were made as a result of this criminal act ?

What offence have they committed? Reports suggest they breached the condition of their licence, which is why it was suspended.

How can you possibly defend this ?
Oh, its you.
Explains everything.

Being subjected to 25 hours of lectures is enough to drive anyone to blow themselves mind. Clever tactic.

You wanted them arrested - I asked what you wanted them arrested for. At no point did I defend their actions.

Come, come, Mr Scott you know perfectly well that you did, by denying any wrong doing. Off to bed with you, you cheeky little apologist you, theres a good chap.

[PotatoSalad]

TTwiggy said:

Charlie Hoskins said:

Because ?
Would. You. Care. To. Explain ?

Happily.

At 16 years and 6 months he will be eligible for parole. The parole board will have his case notes, sentencing reports and prison record. They will also have, in heavybold 30-point print, the word 'terrorism' all over his application.

If, and it's a huge if, he's been a model prisoner and has actively turned away from extremism (such as lecturing other prisoners/Muslims on what a bad thing it is) he might, at some point, get let out. But it won't be at his first parole hearing. I would bet my house on it.

Phew, that explains why we never have anyone committing more crimes when discharged on parole, the board obviously never gets it wrong. I can sleep well tonight!


/sarcasm

[Deptford Draylons]

BlackLabel said:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshi...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anwar_al-Awlaki

Not a surprise. People might one day wake up to the scale of the problem in the UK and not keep trying to make excuses and post diversions here. It's the exact same thing that happened a few weeks back with the Didsbury mosque. The usual people turn up and start offering up excuses and trying to downplay the problem.
It's a shame we can't identify who was tuning in, I'm sure some schools and the like would be going all out to sack anyone employed who was lapping this stuff up.

[PotatoSalad]

Deptford Draylons said:

BlackLabel said:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshi...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anwar_al-Awlaki

Not a surprise. People might one day wake up to the scale of the problem in the UK and not keep trying to make excuses and post diversions here. It's the exact same thing that happened a few weeks back with the Didsbury mosque. The usual people turn up and start offering up excuses and trying to downplay the problem.
It's a shame we can't identify who was tuning in, I'm sure some schools and the like would be going all out to sack anyone employed who was lapping this stuff up.

I'm afraid they genuinely believe that this time having a large Muslim part of the population will work differently than in dozens of countries over the last 1500 years.

[Gavia]

PotatoSalad said:

I'm afraid they genuinely believe that this time having a large Muslim part of the population will work differently than in dozens of countries over the last 1500 years.

I'd expect the whole world to change significantly over the next 1500 years

[PotatoSalad]

Gavia said:

PotatoSalad said:

I'm afraid they genuinely believe that this time having a large Muslim part of the population will work differently than in dozens of countries over the last 1500 years.

I'd expect the whole world to change significantly over the next 1500 years

Such as condemning sex with a 9yr old girl, instead of praying to people who did it?

Or not lashing women for standing too close to a male in public, unlike in Indonesia?

Or allowing women to dress, say, vote, and marry what and who they want?

Or openly dispute religious doctrines without the fear of prosecution and beheading?

Or not shooting 12 people over a funny cartoon?

Yes, some things have changed, sadly not in every culture.

[Gavia]

PotatoSalad said:

Such as condemning sex with a 9yr old girl, instead of praying to people who did it?

Or not lashing women for standing too close to a male in public, unlike in Indonesia?

Or allowing women to dress, say, vote, and marry what and who they want?

Or openly dispute religious doctrines without the fear of prosecution and beheading?

Or not shooting 12 people over a funny cartoon?

Yes, some things have changed, sadly not in every culture.

Mary Magdalene

Deuteronomy

And so on

Stuff that, I'm going racing and enjoying life. Reality is that you're peddling garbage. Enjoy your sad life, I'm enjoying mine

[PotatoSalad]

Gavia said:

PotatoSalad said:

Such as condemning sex with a 9yr old girl, instead of praying to people who did it?

Or not lashing women for standing too close to a male in public, unlike in Indonesia?

Or allowing women to dress, say, vote, and marry what and who they want?

Or openly dispute religious doctrines without the fear of prosecution and beheading?

Or not shooting 12 people over a funny cartoon?

Yes, some things have changed, sadly not in every culture.

Mary Magdalene

Deuteronomy

And so on

Stuff that, I'm going racing and enjoying life. Reality is that you're peddling garbage. Enjoy your sad life, I'm enjoying mine

According to the christian mythology, Jesus shagging underage Mary Magdalene as one of his several wives when he wasn't busy with brutal conquests is not an example to follow.

Nobody takes the book of deuteronomy seriously these days, they don't stone homosexuals or imprison apostates. Unlike many Muslims who still firmly believe that a valid punishment for a blasphemous cartoon is death.

And so on.

Racing at midnight? Now I know who's driving up and down the road with that farting ebay exhaust...

[TTwiggy]

PotatoSalad said:

TTwiggy said:

Charlie Hoskins said:

Because ?
Would. You. Care. To. Explain ?

Happily.

At 16 years and 6 months he will be eligible for parole. The parole board will have his case notes, sentencing reports and prison record. They will also have, in heavybold 30-point print, the word 'terrorism' all over his application.

If, and it's a huge if, he's been a model prisoner and has actively turned away from extremism (such as lecturing other prisoners/Muslims on what a bad thing it is) he might, at some point, get let out. But it won't be at his first parole hearing. I would bet my house on it.

Phew, that explains why we never have anyone committing more crimes when discharged on parole, the board obviously never gets it wrong. I can sleep well tonight!


/sarcasm

Repeat offence is generally at the lower level of crime, where unfortunately it's a churn due to a number of factors. I don't know the figures but I believe the repeat levels for very serious crimes are low as murderers etc are not let out on parole without a thorough review.

[Charlie Hoskins]

I'm certain that a Christian radio station broadcasting the rantings of a mad old priest calling for a ban on muslims entering the UK, mass deportations and civil unrest would result in a robust and public prosecution with wall to wall coverage by the media, hashtags, condemnation from well heeled celebs and unbridled coffee mornings across the land.
By contrast we have a 'naughty, naughty, very naughty' approach being taken here.