I think my neighbour is dodgy

I think my neighbour is dodgy

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Rich_W

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12,548 posts

212 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2017
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He recently bought a motorbike. One of these Chinese copies of a 125 Honda. 65Plate complete with L plates so on a half licence or whatever they call it. Not a Full. Quite soon after he acquired another bike. A 64 plate KTM RC. This piqued my interest. I know what he does for a living (another neighbour who dislikes him told me) Curious as to how it could afford a bike and then change it quite soon after getting it.

So I ran them both through the askmid website. The Chinese one was insured, but the KTM 125 wasn't. And remained uninsured for a couple weeks. Whilst he used it daily. I reported it via Crime stoppers website and within a week or so it became insured and the original bike disappeared.

I noticed one day he had a rear square bike number plate on the floor for a 55 plate. Which he hid under the cover for the KTM. But I made a note of it just in case.

With me so far?

Last week sometime the KTM disappeared and a Yellow Yamaha appeared. This looks like more of a 600 bike. Reminds me of a Honda CB600F. Sit up and beg type bike. There's no L plates on it. And low and behold it has this 55 plate on it.

So I ran it through askmid. And it comes back as a Black Honda VT Shadow. A cruiser type (think Harley esque) which even allowing for a colour mistake by the DVLA it's not even close to being the same type of bike. That bike appears to be insured. And MOT/Taxed as well.

Thinking I maybe mistook a C for a G I tried the alternative. And that came back as a 3.0 BMW Diesel car. (Which hasn't been insured since 2008 so prob written off) Another alternative came back as an E Class. Another variation came back as a Tata!

Then the other day he came back from a ride with apparently no helmet on! It was around 9pm or so. He also had 4 other bike friends with him. All 125 types. 1 of which (if I got the reg right) is also not insured.

After midnight one day the Chinese bike came back. And I watched as he got out the Yellow Yamaha from its storage cover and took it out for a ride, but his old demeanour when getting it out was looking around. On edge the whole time. He came back and he's started to lock the storage cover to a gutter whereas previously it was just closed.

My gut is somethings very up with him (and his mates) . So I've reported it to the relevant Police via their website. Tried 101 but finding a phonebox not covered in st was hard and then it was a minimum 5 min wait so gave up and did it online.

I fear it will be a waste of time though frown

Gavia

7,627 posts

91 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2017
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Nothing wrong with what you've done at all.

Biker 1

7,730 posts

119 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2017
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Is this some sort of windup? WTF - hasn't the OP got anything better to do?????

Rich_W

Original Poster:

12,548 posts

212 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2017
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Biker 1 said:
Is this some sort of windup? WTF - hasn't the OP got anything better to do?????
Well I think the bike is stolen and he's using false plates on it.
I think he and his 4 mates are connected with it all.

There is the alternative that he's bought the bike from someone and has inadvertently bought a stolen bike. In which case he's potentially got leads on a gang of thieves


But I guess you think it's not a good use of my time. Up to you I guess. Maybe I should ignore it all and not give a st. Hey it's probably nothing right?

If it is the Police will exonerate all concerned.


Oh and as for waste of time 36 months and over 1000 posts. Yeah I'm the one with too much time laugh

Gavia

7,627 posts

91 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2017
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Rich_W said:
Well I think the bike is stolen and he's using false plates on it.
I think he and his 4 mates are connected with it all.

There is the alternative that he's bought the bike from someone and has inadvertently bought a stolen bike. In which case he's potentially got leads on a gang of thieves


But I guess you think it's not a good use of my time. Up to you I guess. Maybe I should ignore it all and not give a st. Hey it's probably nothing right?

If it is the Police will exonerate all concerned.


Oh and as for waste of time 36 months and over 1000 posts. Yeah I'm the one with too much time laugh
Not taking sides as I agree with what you've done, but he posts around half as much as you on average

Loyly

17,996 posts

159 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2017
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Biker 1 said:
Is this some sort of windup? WTF - hasn't the OP got anything better to do?????
Did you understand the contents of the post? The OP has given a clear account of suspicious behaviour which is probably linked to stolen bikes or nicked plates, aside from the no insurance type offences. Worth looking into.

Butter Face

30,306 posts

160 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2017
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Rich_W said:
Oh and as for waste of time 36 months and over 1000 posts. Yeah I'm the one with too much time laugh
Average of 33.38pm.

You average 59.36.

Jus sayin'


hehe

skahigh

2,023 posts

131 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2017
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Does insurance show up on the ask mid database immediately? Is it not conceivable that he just bought a new bike and insured it but it took a week or two to show up on the database?

It sounds like you're not sure on the exact plate details?

Rich_W

Original Poster:

12,548 posts

212 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2017
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skahigh said:
Does insurance show up on the ask mid database immediately? Is it not conceivable that he just bought a new bike and insured it but it took a week or two to show up on the database?

It sounds like you're not sure on the exact plate details?
Dunno on Askmid.

Its difficult on the plate since the bike is covered, and I'm no going to sneak out and lift up the bike cover. (It's a kind of tent thing) Since they will be able to see me. And I'd rather not make it obvious laugh

But I've seen it several times so I'm 95% sure I'm right.




Regarding my posting maths

boxedineeklaugh

ashleyman

6,986 posts

99 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2017
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I thought something similar about one of my neighbours and I was right. If it looks dodgy, it probably is. Especially if there are more than 1 instance of this behaviour. Sounds like it is to me.

You will need more than just words though so if you can get 'evidence'. It will be needed if things are to go further.

Of course, he could just be a trader and the bikes are all on a trader policy so often not shown as insured when they are.

Rawwr

22,722 posts

234 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2017
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Biker 1 said:
Is this some sort of windup? WTF - hasn't the OP got anything better to do?????
I don't understand this attitude.

Andy XRV

3,843 posts

180 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2017
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Rawwr said:
Biker 1 said:
Is this some sort of windup? WTF - hasn't the OP got anything better to do?????
I don't understand this attitude.
Nor me scratchchin

R1 Dave

7,158 posts

263 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2017
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Sounds like he's running at the very least a cloned/stolen plate and at the most a stolen bike so good work op, hopefully the police will pop round and check the VIN plate and go from there.

Birky_41

4,289 posts

184 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2017
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Definitely cloned bike or a plate thats been copied or nicked off another bike and bung on his

He'll get away with that for ages unless caught red handed

optimate

109 posts

84 months

Wednesday 24th May 2017
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Rich_W said:
He recently bought a motorbike. One of these Chinese copies of a 125 Honda. 65Plate complete with L plates so on a half licence or whatever they call it. Not a Full. Quite soon after he acquired another bike. A 64 plate KTM RC. This piqued my interest. I know what he does for a living (another neighbour who dislikes him told me) Curious as to how it could afford a bike and then change it quite soon after getting it.

So I ran them both through the askmid website. The Chinese one was insured, but the KTM 125 wasn't. And remained uninsured for a couple weeks. Whilst he used it daily. I reported it via Crime stoppers website and within a week or so it became insured and the original bike disappeared.

I noticed one day he had a rear square bike number plate on the floor for a 55 plate. Which he hid under the cover for the KTM. But I made a note of it just in case.

With me so far?

Last week sometime the KTM disappeared and a Yellow Yamaha appeared. This looks like more of a 600 bike. Reminds me of a Honda CB600F. Sit up and beg type bike. There's no L plates on it. And low and behold it has this 55 plate on it.

So I ran it through askmid. And it comes back as a Black Honda VT Shadow. A cruiser type (think Harley esque) which even allowing for a colour mistake by the DVLA it's not even close to being the same type of bike. That bike appears to be insured. And MOT/Taxed as well.

Thinking I maybe mistook a C for a G I tried the alternative. And that came back as a 3.0 BMW Diesel car. (Which hasn't been insured since 2008 so prob written off) Another alternative came back as an E Class. Another variation came back as a Tata!

Then the other day he came back from a ride with apparently no helmet on! It was around 9pm or so. He also had 4 other bike friends with him. All 125 types. 1 of which (if I got the reg right) is also not insured.

After midnight one day the Chinese bike came back. And I watched as he got out the Yellow Yamaha from its storage cover and took it out for a ride, but his old demeanour when getting it out was looking around. On edge the whole time. He came back and he's started to lock the storage cover to a gutter whereas previously it was just closed.

My gut is somethings very up with him (and his mates) . So I've reported it to the relevant Police via their website. Tried 101 but finding a phonebox not covered in st was hard and then it was a minimum 5 min wait so gave up and did it online.

I fear it will be a waste of time though frown
you really need to get a life and stop curtain twitching. perfect way to start a feud with you neighbor.

Fleegle

16,689 posts

176 months

Wednesday 24th May 2017
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optimate said:
Rich_W said:
He recently bought a motorbike. One of these Chinese copies of a 125 Honda. 65Plate complete with L plates so on a half licence or whatever they call it. Not a Full. Quite soon after he acquired another bike. A 64 plate KTM RC. This piqued my interest. I know what he does for a living (another neighbour who dislikes him told me) Curious as to how it could afford a bike and then change it quite soon after getting it.

So I ran them both through the askmid website. The Chinese one was insured, but the KTM 125 wasn't. And remained uninsured for a couple weeks. Whilst he used it daily. I reported it via Crime stoppers website and within a week or so it became insured and the original bike disappeared.

I noticed one day he had a rear square bike number plate on the floor for a 55 plate. Which he hid under the cover for the KTM. But I made a note of it just in case.

With me so far?

Last week sometime the KTM disappeared and a Yellow Yamaha appeared. This looks like more of a 600 bike. Reminds me of a Honda CB600F. Sit up and beg type bike. There's no L plates on it. And low and behold it has this 55 plate on it.

So I ran it through askmid. And it comes back as a Black Honda VT Shadow. A cruiser type (think Harley esque) which even allowing for a colour mistake by the DVLA it's not even close to being the same type of bike. That bike appears to be insured. And MOT/Taxed as well.

Thinking I maybe mistook a C for a G I tried the alternative. And that came back as a 3.0 BMW Diesel car. (Which hasn't been insured since 2008 so prob written off) Another alternative came back as an E Class. Another variation came back as a Tata!

Then the other day he came back from a ride with apparently no helmet on! It was around 9pm or so. He also had 4 other bike friends with him. All 125 types. 1 of which (if I got the reg right) is also not insured.

After midnight one day the Chinese bike came back. And I watched as he got out the Yellow Yamaha from its storage cover and took it out for a ride, but his old demeanour when getting it out was looking around. On edge the whole time. He came back and he's started to lock the storage cover to a gutter whereas previously it was just closed.

My gut is somethings very up with him (and his mates) . So I've reported it to the relevant Police via their website. Tried 101 but finding a phonebox not covered in st was hard and then it was a minimum 5 min wait so gave up and did it online.

I fear it will be a waste of time though frown
you really need to get a life and stop curtain twitching. perfect way to start a feud with you neighbor.
A curtain twitcher that does something about it. I'd rather live close to someone that is vigilant like the OP than someone who notices sweet FA

Harrythecat

56 posts

105 months

Wednesday 24th May 2017
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OP, the only thing you have done wrong is dial 101/ use the website, you may if your lucky get a PC pitch up sometime in the next 28 days if you don't keep getting bumped in all probability you will get a PCSO and good luck with that.

Of course if you happened to suspect somebody of carrying a firearm or dealing in various chemicals you might find the response to be slightly swifter by a proactive team from your local police force.

Trabi601

4,865 posts

95 months

Wednesday 24th May 2017
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It was a busybody like the OP who was responsible for my very immaculate Ducati Supersport being removed from my garage by the police and left to rot in an open compound for 2 months after they cut a massive hole in my garage door.

The garage is rented, so I'm not sure if the landlord managed to get the door replaced by the police or his own insurance - but they absolutely refused to take any responsibility for the damage caused to my bike.

Kinky

39,556 posts

269 months

Wednesday 24th May 2017
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Fleegle said:
A curtain twitcher that does something about it. I'd rather live close to someone that is vigilant like the OP than someone who notices sweet FA
This thumbup

I'm with the OP on this one. Only point to note, as commented above, is that AskMid might not be 100% up to date. So if he did take out insurance, it could be a few weeks before it showed up.

Jazoli

9,100 posts

250 months

Wednesday 24th May 2017
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Trabi601 said:
It was a busybody like the OP who was responsible for my very immaculate Ducati Supersport being removed from my garage by the police and left to rot in an open compound for 2 months after they cut a massive hole in my garage door.

The garage is rented, so I'm not sure if the landlord managed to get the door replaced by the police or his own insurance - but they absolutely refused to take any responsibility for the damage caused to my bike.
Remind me not to buy as Ducati if they rot after being outside for 2 months hehe

I'm with the OP, better to be pro-active, and its not curtain twitching its called social responsibility and doing the right thing.