UK terror threat level raised to critical!

[rscott]

IanH755 said:

Rovinghawk said:

Mothersruin said:

Trust me - the soldiers don't want to either.

I'm against armed troops controlling the populace. Their function is external not internal.

I'm wondering why having armed Police in a static location being replaced by the Military in a static location is "populace control"?

Do you not want more police available to actively hunt down terrorists, patrol areas of concern or reasure the public? I mean, do you think the Army is going to start patrolling down Camden high street like it's 80's Northern Ireland or something similar, because that's how your "populace control" comment sounds, which isn't what happening?

Exactly - we're basically going from police officers standing around outside potential targets to... soldiers standing around outside potential targets.

[Globs]

AshBurrows said:

You utter . Seek help. Absolute fking .

You never really understood what was going on did you? Back 14 years ago it was all laid out for any fool to see:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2003/sep/06/s...

guardian said:

Finally - written a year before 9/11 - it pinpoints North Korea, Syria and Iran as dangerous regimes, and says their existence justifies the creation of a "worldwide command and control system".

North Korea, Syria and Iran - Syria has been partly smashed, if the Russian's had not interfered it would have fallen some time ago and we'd be bulldozing Iran today, and then there's NK, suddenly a big problem as soon as THAAD arrived.

I'm not the only one who sees through the 'War on Terror', which like the 'War on Drugs' has created far more Terror than ever before.
I suppose you think Seth Rich (The Bernie Sanders's fan and wikileaks source of DNC leaks) shot himself twice in the head as well?

[Globs]

Tankrizzo said:

Fair play, I've learned from this thread to treat any post by Globs as blank space from this point on.

Good plan, always attack the man, never get involved in discussing the evidence or peering down the rabbit hole.
I'm sure the BBC will tell you all you ever need to know.

[Rovinghawk]

IanH755 said:

Do you not want more police available to actively hunt down terrorists, patrol areas of concern or reasure the public?

Please don't ask silly questions with obvious replies.

IanH755 said:

I mean, do you think the Army is going to start patrolling down Camden high street like it's 80's Northern Ireland or something similar, because that's how your "populace control" comment sounds, which isn't what happening?

Standing in the street with guns is basically what we're talking about. Outside Buck House in a bearskin is fine, inside New Street Station in rural camouflage isn't.

Armed forces are supposed to act in support of civilian powers when requested, not replace them.

[Yipper]

La Liga said:

The reality of having a mostly unarmed police service (along with a low police per population ratio) is that there aren't sufficient armed officers when plans / contingencies like we've seen being triggered are triggered.

France has loads of armed police and they still put the army on the streets.

Putting the army on the streets is symbolic as well as practical. A soldier looks powerfuler than a copper. A better deterrent against criminal maniacs who will only listen to brute force.

The previous "critical" situations with the army on UK streets lasted <5 days. So, there will probably either be another pop by the weekend, or things will quieten down again and the army will re-barrack by next week.

[Globs]

valiant said:

Go on, admit it. You're a flat-earther as well, aren't you? And that the moon missions were are all faked.

Loon.

Well done Valiant for running with the sheep and helping stone the infidel - feels good doesn't it, being one of the pack?

According to you I'm a loon because I think Orlando and Sandy Hook were false flags, and WTC7 needed help to fall: well what do you think?

Checkout the victims being carried back toward the club.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoS70jWqXSQ at 1:10

Sandy Hook:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eW9w8szNlys at 1:54 ('wounds') then at 2:45 using his arm.

WTC7 fell at free-fall speed for over 2 seconds and collapsed into it's footprint, despite not being hit by a plane.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nyogTsrsgI

How does the logical questioning of these events make one a 'Loon' exactly?

Would it help if I said I know the earth is an oblate spheroid and NASA's 400,000 people are not lying about Apollo? If it does help - why? That's merely an appeal to authority - it says nothing about 83 thick cross braced steel pillars ceasing to exist at the same second does it? It doesn't change the location of the Pulse club either?

False flags are an established part of history: They didn't suddenly stop on a designated date, thinking so is quite illogical.

[smifffymoto]

The most telling thing for me is how special forces have been involved in house raids along side the police.
I can't think of another time when that was the case.When special forces have been used before, the police have had to cede control to them and then regain operational control after they had finished.

Have the rules changed since the new anti terror laws were introduced?

[superkartracer]

Globs said:

Sandy Hook:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eW9w8szNlys at 1:54 ('wounds') then at 2:45 using his arm.

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[anonymous-user]

Globs said:

Checkout the victims being carried back toward the club.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoS70jWqXSQ at 1:10

So? What does that prove?

How do you or the narrator know they weren't directed in that direction towards medical help? At what point was that filmed? After the risk was removed? Was it a safe sterile area?

BUT WAIT, THEY LOOKED AT THE CAMERA AS THEY WALKED PAST!!!!

This is the problem with conspiracy thinkers. You claim to ask critical, 'logical' questions, but show you lack the ability to do so by using the above as 'evidence' when there could be many different explanations beyond the narrow interpretation of the narrator.

[Dusty964]

Globs said:

Well done Valiant for running with the sheep and helping stone the infidel - feels good doesn't it, being one of the pack?

According to you I'm a loon because I think Orlando and Sandy Hook were false flags, and WTC7 needed help to fall: well what do you think?

Checkout the victims being carried back toward the club.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoS70jWqXSQ at 1:10

Sandy Hook:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eW9w8szNlys at 1:54 ('wounds') then at 2:45 using his arm.

WTC7 fell at free-fall speed for over 2 seconds and collapsed into it's footprint, despite not being hit by a plane.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nyogTsrsgI

How does the logical questioning of these events make one a 'Loon' exactly?

Would it help if I said I know the earth is an oblate spheroid and NASA's 400,000 people are not lying about Apollo? If it does help - why? That's merely an appeal to authority - it says nothing about 83 thick cross braced steel pillars ceasing to exist at the same second does it? It doesn't change the location of the Pulse club either?

False flags are an established part of history: They didn't suddenly stop on a designated date, thinking so is quite illogical.

Reading and watching that has made me really hungry.

[Globs]

La Liga said:

Globs said:

Checkout the victims being carried back toward the club.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoS70jWqXSQ at 1:10

So? What does that prove?

How do you or the narrator know they weren't directed in that direction towards medical help? At what point was that filmed? After the risk was removed? Was it a safe sterile area?

I see, how much research have you done on this?

They are walking north toward the club, but the nearest hospital is just 5 blocks to the north.
The local police should know that - shouldn't they, sitting in their cars with the flashing lights?

• Why are they being carried?
• Where are the ambulances, the stretchers?
• Where are the medics?
• The drips?
• The police helping?

The Washington Post said

WP said:

After the shooting, doctors recalled patients who arrived “by the truckload,” riddled with bullets and gunshot wounds.

But we see no trucks, no riddling, no blood, no wailing, just the plucky survivors doggedly walking to the club. You'd expect at least a police car to stop and give them a lift - wouldn't you?

Some other interesting questions:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNm0mjrph1Q

Here is the map of the area
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/PULSE/@28.5195...

What do you think?

[bobbo89]

Globs said:

But we see no trucks, no riddling, no blood, no wailing, just the plucky survivors doggedly walking to the club. You'd expect at least a police car to stop and give them a lift - wouldn't you?

Some other interesting questions:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNm0mjrph1Q

Here is the map of the area
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/PULSE/@28.5195...

What do you think?

Wow you're right! Where's riddling?

I thought you were a complete headcase who'd spent too much time locked away with just the internet until you mentioned the riddling but now you have, I just cant see past the lack of riddling! I mean, how is this even possible without riddling?

Open your eyes sheeple!

[menguin]

Globs said:

Sandy Hook:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eW9w8szNlys at 1:54 ('wounds') then at 2:45 using his arm.

I hate to feed the troll (or in this case slightly unhinged tin foil hatter), but at 1:54 he shows his wounds. At 2:45 he is slightly moving his arm. Did you check back before 1:54? He moves his arm throughout the video, more so in the earlier section. What does this prove? That the whole thing is fake and he is an actor? People actually, definitely died. Why would they need additional actors that would be "exposed" by truthers? Surely the amount of dead bodies would be enough? Do you think rationally or do you blindly believe the videos on youtube YOU watch (while at the same time claiming everyone who doesn't agree with you is blind to the truth)?

[anonymous-user]

bobbo89 said:

Wow you're right! Where's riddling?

I thought you were a complete headcase who'd spent too much time locked away with just the internet until you mentioned the riddling but now you have, I just cant see past the lack of riddling! I mean, how is this even possible without riddling? Open your eyes sheeple!

Now the scales have fallen from my eyes, especially given the lack of trucks. I mean the phrase 'by the truckload' is only ever used as an accurate description involving loaded trucks, never ever as a form of vivid imagery....

I do wonder what is missing in these peoples lives...very sad

Edit to add: I'm referring to that loon Globs

Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 24th May 19:50

[Elysium]

Globs said:

WTC7 fell at free-fall speed for over 2 seconds and collapsed into it's footprint, despite not being hit by a plane.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nyogTsrsgI

How does the logical questioning of these events make one a 'Loon' exactly?

You don't understand how structures work. Unfortunately you are not competent enough to realise this.

This is not the thread for your nonsense. It's inappropriate and disrespectful.

[Alex_225]

I'm somewhat surprised at the hostility about some of the alternative thinking in this thread. No one is showing disrespect to anyone who has died.

As a free speaking society people are allowed to express their own opinions without needing to be insulted provided they are not insulting anyone else in the process.

There are a lot of alternative thoughts, some people would say conspiracies that are fascinating and not by default tin hat wearing, flat earth believing mental cases.

As for the original point, I suspect commuting back into the city (London that is) on Monday, I'll see additional security around train stations etc.

[MaxSo]

Alex_225 said:

I'm somewhat surprised at the hostility about some of the alternative thinking in this thread. No one is showing disrespect to anyone who has died.

As a free speaking society people are allowed to express their own opinions without needing to be insulted provided they are not insulting anyone else in the process.

There are a lot of alternative thoughts, some people would say conspiracies that are fascinating and not by default tin hat wearing, flat earth believing mental cases.

As for the original point, I suspect commuting back into the city (London that is) on Monday, I'll see additional security around train stations etc.

Agree, there is a tendency to shout down people with non-mainstream, perhaps uncomfortable, ideas. It's arguably incredibly naive to blindly believe an official narrative without question, particularly where there are indisputable historic examples where the official narrative of the time was not the full story. (And, no I don't intend to provide examples - they are easy to find via reputable sources).

Edited by MaxSo on Wednesday 24th May 20:37

[anonymous-user]

Globs said:

I see, how much research have you done on this?

Again:

La Liga said:

How do you or the narrator know they weren't directed in that direction towards medical help? At what point was that filmed? After the risk was removed? Was it a safe sterile area?

Globs said:

They are walking north toward the club, but the nearest hospital is just 5 blocks to the north.
The local police should know that - shouldn't they, sitting in their cars with the flashing lights?

• Why are they being carried?
• Where are the ambulances, the stretchers?
• Where are the medics?
• The drips?
• The police helping?

He's practically walking wounded. What was the initial medical strategy? Where were people with different levels of injuries directed? Were people with minor injuries directed to resources at the scene rather than the hospital? Were they walking on their own accord and ignoring whatever instructions? Were the intoxicated and a little confused as to what to do or where they needed to go? Where they in shock? Did they know the area? What phase of the incident is that filming recorded during?

How does a conspiracy between a full club of people, all the actors (including all the actors pretending to be the family and friends of the pretend dead actors) the police, the fire & ambulance, the hospital, the doctors the coroner, the people to place fake wounds on people, people whom work with births and deaths ALL remain quiet throughout?

Who are the autopsy reports about? How long do the pretend families and friends of the people who were made up need to pretend?

Never mind those minor questions, you've 'researched' it and cited a source that highlights they walked on the pavement rather than the road as evidence it's all a big fake...

[anonymous-user]

MaxSo said:

Agree, there is a tendency to shout down people with non-mainstream, perhaps uncomfortable, ideas. It's arguably incredibly naive to blindly believe an official narrative without question, particularly where there are indisputable historic examples where the official narrative of the time was not the full story. (And, no I don't intend to provide examples - they are easy to find via reputable sources).

Edited by MaxSo on Wednesday 24th May 20:37

There is a major difference between 'the full story' and the truther types with multiple variations on vaccines cause disease, MMR=autism, WTC1/2/7 were explosive demolitions, moon landing photos show stars/are not parallel/too good etc etc

Bacteria cause the majority of stomach ulcers - that is a good example of the prevailing view ignoring evidence, however ignoring evidence is exactly what the truther types do.

In this case there will be the usual WTC 7 had no damage/no real fire/the jews did it and when shown evidence to the contrary they will ignore/dissemble/disappear/shift to something else. This is why there is a strong negative reaction to this specific type of BS, probably coupled with the fact that similar types have been trying to describe the Manchester bombing as false flag because Tories innit....

[Alex_225]

wsurfa said:

There is a major difference between 'the full story' and the truther types with multiple variations on vaccines cause disease, MMR=autism, WTC1/2/7 were explosive demolitions, moon landing photos show stars/are not parallel/too good etc etc

Bacteria cause the majority of stomach ulcers - that is a good example of the prevailing view ignoring evidence, however ignoring evidence is exactly what the truther types do.

In this case there will be the usual WTC 7 had no damage/no real fire/the jews did it and when shown evidence to the contrary they will ignore/dissemble/disappear/shift to something else. This is why there is a strong negative reaction to this specific type of BS, probably coupled with the fact that similar types have been trying to describe the Manchester bombing as false flag because Tories innit....

To be credible in any way you have to be open minded rather than focusses purely on one point of view.

So anyone who is 100% convinced that the mainstream media is the truth and nothing but the truth are as daft and/or ignorant as someone who is 100% that everything is a conspiracy is similarly ignorant. In my opinion of course.

I am open to hear theories and am open minded to the fact that I'm sure there are some incomprehensible things that take place in this world. At the same time it's being open minded in all aspects.