Teenage Audi mechanic committed suicide after bullying

[M666 EVO]

I worked in a garage when I left school. One day a colleague walked past, pulled his trousers and pants down and farted with such venom that he sharted over my legs. Beast.

One minute I made the teas, next minute I was changing the gearbox in a Renault 5 Turbo. Swings and roundabouts. You take the rough with the smooth.

I now work in the City (London) as a trader. I still make the tea. That's life.

Locking someone in a cage and setting fire to them is just f*cked up!!

[bobbo89]

Zetec-S said:

How do you know when he falls asleep? I mean, obviously he's in the boot

Not in this weather, we're not animals! We tie them to the roof.

[PurpleTurtle]

Paul Clifford of Reading Audi sounds an absolute .

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/may/25/ge...

[whythem]

berlintaxi said:

Jinx said:

Vaud said:

Nanook said:

Why would an apprentice be washing the service managers car on company time? If an apprentice refuses to do part of their actual job, there's disciplinary action that can be taken.

If the gaffer wants his car washed, he can do it himself. Straightforward.

Absolutely. Tasks should be part of the job/role description. They aren't "cheap labour" to do anything and everything.

Perhaps because it is actually a dealership car and spends a lot of time on the forecourt so needs to be kept clean?

What is someone who is employed to learn the intricacies of fixing cars going to learn from washing one?

Detailing.

[WinstonWolf]

InductionRoar said:

Winston Wolf earlier today.

Funnily enough that's my old wallpaper. Good hit

[berlintaxi]

whythem said:

berlintaxi said:

Jinx said:

Vaud said:

Nanook said:

Why would an apprentice be washing the service managers car on company time? If an apprentice refuses to do part of their actual job, there's disciplinary action that can be taken.

If the gaffer wants his car washed, he can do it himself. Straightforward.

Absolutely. Tasks should be part of the job/role description. They aren't "cheap labour" to do anything and everything.

Perhaps because it is actually a dealership car and spends a lot of time on the forecourt so needs to be kept clean?

What is someone who is employed to learn the intricacies of fixing cars going to learn from washing one?

Detailing.

How many qualified mechanics do you know who spend their day detailing customers cars?

[Zetec-S]

berlintaxi said:

How many qualified mechanics do you know who spend their day detailing customers cars?

Serious question - what makes someone a 'qualified' mechanic?

[Mr2Mike]

WW genuinely comes across as a damaged person, possibly a result of being 'toughened up' by regular sexual assaults during his apprenticeship.

[berlintaxi]

Zetec-S said:

berlintaxi said:

How many qualified mechanics do you know who spend their day detailing customers cars?

Serious question - what makes someone a 'qualified' mechanic?

At as guess I would say completing an apprenticeship, not washing the bosses car.

[Zetec-S]

berlintaxi said:

Zetec-S said:

berlintaxi said:

How many qualified mechanics do you know who spend their day detailing customers cars?

Serious question - what makes someone a 'qualified' mechanic?

At as guess I would say completing an apprenticeship, not washing the bosses car.

Yes, but 'qualified' suggests a formal, recognised qualification. Is there a universally recognised qualification, do individual manufacturers offer something, etc?

[Oakey]

WinstonWolf said:

_dobbo_ said:

WinstonWolf said:

Err, you do realise I was the apprentice?

Ahhh so you just had your balls greased and watched whilst other people did, but never actually did it yourself? Then years later defended it because it was all totally normal on the tools.

That's fine then. Apologies for getting mixed up.

Apology accepted.

We're all adults here, you can tell us, did these things harden you up? Did you start off soft and leave hard? Did you go on to make new apprentices hard yourself?

[Cold]

It's gone a bit Fred Talbot all of a sudden.

[PositronicRay]

berlintaxi said:

whythem said:

berlintaxi said:

Jinx said:

Vaud said:

Nanook said:

Why would an apprentice be washing the service managers car on company time? If an apprentice refuses to do part of their actual job, there's disciplinary action that can be taken.

If the gaffer wants his car washed, he can do it himself. Straightforward.

Absolutely. Tasks should be part of the job/role description. They aren't "cheap labour" to do anything and everything.

Perhaps because it is actually a dealership car and spends a lot of time on the forecourt so needs to be kept clean?

What is someone who is employed to learn the intricacies of fixing cars going to learn from washing one?

Detailing.

How many qualified mechanics do you know who spend their day detailing customers cars?

It's going to be a company car/asset/demonstrator, of course if asked it should be washed, valet team helped if need be, I've seen techs washing cars, valet teams flat out/gone home customer's cars late, somebodys gotta do it. A recovery driver washed a rental car for me before I took it, I asked him not to bother but he insisted. (company policy and only him there to it)

At the end of the day the workshop is cleaned, swept, floor polisher etc. techs do this. Just as if you work in a retail shop you'll clean shelves before merchandising, In an office do you refuse to photo copy something because it's below your station?

[Oakey]

Cold said:

It's gone a bit Fred Talbot all of a sudden.

Fred Talbot's victims seem to recognise they were sexually abused, they don't appear to have Stockholm Syndrome

[bitchstewie]

PurpleTurtle said:

Paul Clifford of Reading Audi sounds an absolute .

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/may/25/ge...

I half expected some mention of whether anyone from there will face any legal action or is still employed.

[berlintaxi]

Zetec-S said:

berlintaxi said:

Zetec-S said:

berlintaxi said:

How many qualified mechanics do you know who spend their day detailing customers cars?

Serious question - what makes someone a 'qualified' mechanic?

At as guess I would say completing an apprenticeship, not washing the bosses car.

Yes, but 'qualified' suggests a formal, recognised qualification. Is there a universally recognised qualification, do individual manufacturers offer something, etc?

I think manufacturers run their own training schemes which certify their staff with regard to that particular brand, for example;

http://businesscasestudies.co.uk/audi-uk/investing...

[PositronicRay]

berlintaxi said:

Zetec-S said:

berlintaxi said:

Zetec-S said:

berlintaxi said:

How many qualified mechanics do you know who spend their day detailing customers cars?

Serious question - what makes someone a 'qualified' mechanic?

At as guess I would say completing an apprenticeship, not washing the bosses car.

Yes, but 'qualified' suggests a formal, recognised qualification. Is there a universally recognised qualification, do individual manufacturers offer something, etc?

I think manufacturers run their own training schemes which certify their staff with regard to that particular brand, for example;

http://businesscasestudies.co.uk/audi-uk/investing...

In the case of Audi, yes, you need to be accredited.

[Dindoit]

dandarez said:

'Back in the day', true, everything was not sweetness and light, but the 60s and 70s to me were the best decades ever. Lots of younger people always say about 'back in the day', 'we don't want to go back there! It was terrible!'
Yet, were they there? Of course not!

And do you know what, it might be a tad sensitive at this time, but nobody blew f concert halls of predominantly kids up 'back in the day'!

Kipper in detached from reality shocker

[vonuber]

Zetec-S said:

Serious question - what makes someone a 'qualified' mechanic?

When you have had your balls sufficiently greased enough to be able to do it to the next poor sod.

[Wills2]

bhstewie said:

PurpleTurtle said:

Paul Clifford of Reading Audi sounds an absolute .

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/may/25/ge...

I half expected some mention of whether anyone from there will face any legal action or is still employed.

I cannot believe these people have kept their jobs! Didn't they set fire to him? Surely to god that's gross misconduct.