Teenage Audi mechanic committed suicide after bullying
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Eddie Strohacker said:
Daggle74 said:
Lots of horror
Christ, that is appalling.
k me, that is proper psychological abuse stuff, really not good. Amazing that some can't distinguish between a bit of light ribbing/practical jokes and then stuff like that. Just come to this thread, and it's heartbreaking. The guilt that dad will now live with due to some heartless b
ds. I really do hope that at the very least they are dragged through the civil courts. Zetec-S said:
Serious question - what makes someone a 'qualified' mechanic?
In my case a 5 year civilian Reme apprenticeship 5 years at college day release, city and guilds and btec national certificate, the rest is on job experience, including, mot training, countless manufacturer courses as you change brands and new stuff arises in the trade, courses for each section of a vehicle/ gearbox tech, engine tech/ electrical systems management/ the list goes on and on
Edited by loose cannon on Saturday 27th May 14:07
_dobbo_ said:
Well that's obvious. One is the type WinstonWolf engaged in and was all just lovely fun where men greased each others balls with one hand and held tools in an ultimate manly way in the other. You know the kind that's all just about character building, and is victimless and hardly anyone ever kills themselves.
The other type is directed at someone WinstonWolf likes, so is bad.
This is todays bullying ^^ passive aggressive white collar email sending, latte drinking go getter of the office world.The other type is directed at someone WinstonWolf likes, so is bad.
So sorry I have picked your reply but I sort of got fed up with all the bullying comments directed towards WW.
Countdown said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
So sorry I have picked your reply but I sort of got fed up with all the bullying comments directed towards WW.
I wouldn't worry. If there's one thing that toughens people up it's having their genitalia covered in barrier cream whilst they were on the tools.Bullying isn't just confined to the "shop floor", many a young person will feel bullied in any type of working environment.
Biker's Nemesis said:
Bullying isn't just confined to the "shop floor", many a young person will feel bullied in any type of working environment.
I completely agree. However some people appear to be "normalising" it, by making excuses for it, suggesting that it's "manly" behaviour and it "toughens people up". I think the mockery directed towards WW and others just shows that it isn't acceptable nowadays. It probably wasn't acceptable back in the "good old days" but most people were probably too afraid to challenge it.Countdown said:
I completely agree. However some people appear to be "normalising" it, by making excuses for it, suggesting that it's "manly" behaviour and it "toughens people up". I think the mockery directed towards WW and others just shows that it isn't acceptable nowadays. It probably wasn't acceptable back in the "good old days" but most people were probably too afraid to challenge it.
It seems that some people have exceptionally low self-esteem, that they are so petrified that they'll put up with anything. Later, they'll say to themselves how that was perfectly normal and they'll search for some 'toughening' excuse. I doubt that it was ever acceptable, just some troglodytes exercising control over people whom they consider lesser than themselves. 
Biker's Nemesis said:
Countdown said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
So sorry I have picked your reply but I sort of got fed up with all the bullying comments directed towards WW.
I wouldn't worry. If there's one thing that toughens people up it's having their genitalia covered in barrier cream whilst they were on the tools.Bullying isn't just confined to the "shop floor", many a young person will feel bullied in any type of working environment.
"But it's not bullying when you're hiding behind a keyboard".
Audi seem to have form for this.
An acquaintance who was a bodyshop apprentice was stripped to his underwear and locked in a paint booth with the heaters on "for a laugh" by a couple of Master Techs.
I also heard of a junior valeter being knocked to the ground by a pressure washer and suffered concussion.
I believe nothing came of either of these incidents as everyone involved left shortly after.
An acquaintance who was a bodyshop apprentice was stripped to his underwear and locked in a paint booth with the heaters on "for a laugh" by a couple of Master Techs.
I also heard of a junior valeter being knocked to the ground by a pressure washer and suffered concussion.
I believe nothing came of either of these incidents as everyone involved left shortly after.
Dindoit said:
dandarez said:
'Back in the day', true, everything was not sweetness and light, but the 60s and 70s to me were the best decades ever. Lots of younger people always say about 'back in the day', 'we don't want to go back there! It was terrible!'
Yet, were they there? Of course not!
And do you know what, it might be a tad sensitive at this time, but nobody blew f concert halls of predominantly kids up 'back in the day'!
Kipper in detached from reality shockerYet, were they there? Of course not!
And do you know what, it might be a tad sensitive at this time, but nobody blew f concert halls of predominantly kids up 'back in the day'!
Yeah, Kipper for quite a while - why? it was to achieve an aim. Leave the gravy train. Aim achieved. All over now, as it is for majority of other Kippers.
The ones you and other trolls threw racist and bigot cards still remain Kippers. Not many are there?
Back to your graph.
I know. Prat!
As I intimated, I was here! Were you?
VAST Majority of the previous was NOT here on the mainland.
Show me the concert hall where the single aim of targeting of (maiming, killing) kids on the mainland 'back in the day'.
dandarez said:
Hi, Mr Dindoit - FYFI, I'm a Tory.
Yeah, Kipper for quite a while - why? it was to achieve an aim. Leave the gravy train. Aim achieved. All over now, as it is for majority of other Kippers.
The ones you and other trolls threw racist and bigot cards still remain Kippers. Not many are there?
Back to your graph.
I know. Prat!
As I intimated, I was here! Were you?
VAST Majority of the previous was NOT here on the mainland.
Show me the concert hall where the single aim of targeting of (maiming, killing) kids on the mainland 'back in the day'.
Incoherent nonsense. Too much time on the tools and not enough in the books?Yeah, Kipper for quite a while - why? it was to achieve an aim. Leave the gravy train. Aim achieved. All over now, as it is for majority of other Kippers.
The ones you and other trolls threw racist and bigot cards still remain Kippers. Not many are there?
Back to your graph.
I know. Prat!
As I intimated, I was here! Were you?
VAST Majority of the previous was NOT here on the mainland.
Show me the concert hall where the single aim of targeting of (maiming, killing) kids on the mainland 'back in the day'.
That graph shows up your assertions as b
ks yet you claim because 'you were there' you know better?? 
WinstonWolf said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
Countdown said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
So sorry I have picked your reply but I sort of got fed up with all the bullying comments directed towards WW.
I wouldn't worry. If there's one thing that toughens people up it's having their genitalia covered in barrier cream whilst they were on the tools.Bullying isn't just confined to the "shop floor", many a young person will feel bullied in any type of working environment.
"But it's not bullying when you're hiding behind a keyboard".
Countdown said:
SpeedMattersNot said:
I think a lot of non-trade types here think that Susan taking the last biscuit is bad day at work
You get the treatment that you're prepared to tolerate.
. If I as much as made threats that I would do anything like this, let alone actual carry it out I'd be instantly dismissed. My career would be f
ked as any incident s like that could end upon a DBS check and I'd be unemployable in the health industry, or related careers.Yet if you're in the "trades" it seems you can be a nasty,violent bully and dismiss it all as banter! Priceless!
In the past I worked in site for a while and you'd expect an amount of pisstaking, however I never saw anything approaching what happened at that Audi garage.
For the most part it was harmless chat, as an example, you'd be in the middle of something often for the first time and a couple of lads would shout "STOP" at max volume at you. As a newbie you'd freeze thinking you'd fecked something up, they'd then continue "...in the name of love" ....
Hardly Tommy Cooper, but harmless and amusing at the time.
With regard to a PA picking up the bosses dry cleaning, well in the context of high value business that makes sense. In my last company we had an expat running a $15bn regional business, it made quite a lot of business sense for his PA (who also spoke his native language) and knew how to organise people to liaise with his wife and a plumbing firm to fix a problem in his house. The other option was him getting earache from his wife, and moaning from his kids about the lack of hot water at home, while he tried to find a decent plumber and get them to his house in a country he'd recently moved to.
For the most part it was harmless chat, as an example, you'd be in the middle of something often for the first time and a couple of lads would shout "STOP" at max volume at you. As a newbie you'd freeze thinking you'd fecked something up, they'd then continue "...in the name of love" ....
Hardly Tommy Cooper, but harmless and amusing at the time.
With regard to a PA picking up the bosses dry cleaning, well in the context of high value business that makes sense. In my last company we had an expat running a $15bn regional business, it made quite a lot of business sense for his PA (who also spoke his native language) and knew how to organise people to liaise with his wife and a plumbing firm to fix a problem in his house. The other option was him getting earache from his wife, and moaning from his kids about the lack of hot water at home, while he tried to find a decent plumber and get them to his house in a country he'd recently moved to.
wsurfa said:
In the past I worked in site for a while and you'd expect an amount of pisstaking, however I never saw anything approaching what happened at that Audi garage.
For the most part it was harmless chat, as an example, you'd be in the middle of something often for the first time and a couple of lads would shout "STOP" at max volume at you. As a newbie you'd freeze thinking you'd fecked something up, they'd then continue "...in the name of love" ....
In my workshop when you were trying to move a car into a tight spot someone would shout "WHOA!!!"For the most part it was harmless chat, as an example, you'd be in the middle of something often for the first time and a couple of lads would shout "STOP" at max volume at you. As a newbie you'd freeze thinking you'd fecked something up, they'd then continue "...in the name of love" ....
when you have just done an emergency stop
they continue with "I’m going to Barbados"
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