The Army take to the streets of London....

[yellowjack]

Ginetta G15 Girl said:

It's been known as SA 80 by people like yourself who are un-educated.. Do not try to tell me I am pedantic when it is you who are wrong.

Go and look at the picture of the 'SAS' guy holding a L119A1.

Now tell me that 5.56 x 45mm NATO should not be used on the streets.

Hmmm?

"uneducated"? Who? The people who wrote the original training publications for the weapon system?

It was originally referred to as "SA80" in the Infantry Training - Skill At Arms pamphlets.

I know, because I was a bad boy once, but my boss didn't want to deprive me of my LS&GC. So she 'introduced' me to the squadron library, and a packing case full of amendments that needed doing.

I lost count of the number of times I made the manuscript amendment "delete SA80 - insert L85A1", only to find, seven amendments later, that ALL of the pages I'd amended thus were now replaced with new pages reverting back to the use of the term "SA80".

It may well have changed (again) since, but it has DEFINITELY been officially referred to, in official publications, over the years, as the SA80...



...and I'm showing my age now, as the L85A2 has long since replaced the A1 version. Are they still teaching the 'forward assist' too?

[yellowjack]

V88Dicky said:

This is the most common weapon in use by our AFO's, and it's 5.56mm

There were at least 4 armed police officers patrolling at Slam Dunk festival, Hatfield, at the weekend. All of them were primarily armed with those 5.56mm weapons, patrolling in pairs.

Neither scary, nor particularly reassuring, but a great example of needing to be seen to be doing something. What worried me over and above the calibre of their rounds was the length of their shift. They were on site well before I arrived at 1000hrs, and were still there at 2300hrs, and judging by the crowds still trying to get out when I left, they would have probably been working at midnight still.

I'm not sure what kind of numbers of armed officers Hertfordshire plod can lay their hands on, but if it was a multi-day festival like Reading, then a small number of officers could well end up doing a lot of long shifts as that festival runs (core site open to the public) pretty much 12 hours a day for three days. Add in hours of pulsing bass, crazy light shows, and having to deal with tts for three straight days, and if their judgement wasn't impaired to some extent I'd be surprised, to say the least...

[Ayahuasca]

Down my way the police armed response uses either the Uzi, Colt Commando or these strange looking things:



KRISS Vector

[stew-S160]

yellowjack said:

Ginetta G15 Girl said:

It's been known as SA 80 by people like yourself who are un-educated.. Do not try to tell me I am pedantic when it is you who are wrong.

Go and look at the picture of the 'SAS' guy holding a L119A1.

Now tell me that 5.56 x 45mm NATO should not be used on the streets.

Hmmm?

"uneducated"? Who? The people who wrote the original training publications for the weapon system?

It was originally referred to as "SA80" in the Infantry Training - Skill At Arms pamphlets.

I know, because I was a bad boy once, but my boss didn't want to deprive me of my LS&GC. So she 'introduced' me to the squadron library, and a packing case full of amendments that needed doing.

I lost count of the number of times I made the manuscript amendment "delete SA80 - insert L85A1", only to find, seven amendments later, that ALL of the pages I'd amended thus were now replaced with new pages reverting back to the use of the term "SA80".

It may well have changed (again) since, but it has DEFINITELY been officially referred to, in official publications, over the years, as the SA80...



...and I'm showing my age now, as the L85A2 has long since replaced the A1 version. Are they still teaching the 'forward assist' too?

Yes, religiously, as of about 3 years ago.