Four countries cut links with Qatar

Four countries cut links with Qatar

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Gazzas86

1,709 posts

171 months

Wednesday 7th June 2017
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GT03ROB said:
Jockman said:
GT03ROB said:
Ah good...... now Iran are blaming Saudi for suicide attack on Iranian parliament
Do they have a point, Rob?
If it was ISIS ...... probably!! But then the Iranians have been stoking up trouble in Qatif for yonks!!
Funny you said that, i actually drove into Qatif 2 weeks ago, the day after the construction workers were attacked, and it was only after i took the turning had i realised where i was heading... A quick about turn and back to Jubail i went. Not a nice place to go!

Cold

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15,247 posts

90 months

Wednesday 7th June 2017
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UAE are now threatening sympathisers with 15 years behind bars.

Reuters link

GT03ROB

13,263 posts

221 months

Wednesday 7th June 2017
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Gazzas86 said:
Funny you said that, i actually drove into Qatif 2 weeks ago, the day after the construction workers were attacked, and it was only after i took the turning had i realised where i was heading... A quick about turn and back to Jubail i went. Not a nice place to go!
Stupid question but why did you do that!

Likes Fast Cars

2,770 posts

165 months

Wednesday 7th June 2017
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GT03ROB said:
Likes Fast Cars said:
DJFish said:
"Scared to leave hotel today. Omelet bar at breakfast buffet officially OUT of chives. Had to trade rolex for decent espresso #DohaUnderSiege"

Edited by DJFish on Wednesday 7th June 08:51
I think I'll go over there and set up an espresso bar and buy some cheap Rolexes.
Ah ha Mansell's about that Daytona you wanted...........
I was thinking I could flip one to him or hosedoctor......

Wobbegong

15,077 posts

169 months

Thursday 8th June 2017
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Mansells Tash

5,713 posts

206 months

Thursday 8th June 2017
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Likes Fast Cars said:
GT03ROB said:
Likes Fast Cars said:
I think I'll go over there and set up an espresso bar and buy some cheap Rolexes.
Ah ha Mansell's about that Daytona you wanted...........
I was thinking I could flip one to him or hosedoctor......
Leave me alone you spanners, I'm still bitter about that! hehe


Likes Fast Cars

2,770 posts

165 months

Thursday 8th June 2017
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Wobbegong said:
Reggie boy Erdogan has his ill-gotten Billions in Qatar = dangerous game for him.

(the opposition has been vociferous in not going along with this decision).


Gazzas86

1,709 posts

171 months

Thursday 8th June 2017
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GT03ROB said:
Gazzas86 said:
Funny you said that, i actually drove into Qatif 2 weeks ago, the day after the construction workers were attacked, and it was only after i took the turning had i realised where i was heading... A quick about turn and back to Jubail i went. Not a nice place to go!
Stupid question but why did you do that!
Was heading back to Jubail after picking someone up from Dammam airport, took the wrong turn which i thought was the one for Jubail. but it was infact the next one.

I'm heading over to Dammam tomorrow so i'll try not and make the same mistake

rival38

487 posts

145 months

Thursday 8th June 2017
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Iran sending first fresh food, aid flight, to Doha today.

Simple for them to set up sea supply line also - only @10hours steaming time.

Turkey expects to have 3-5 K crack infantry troops in country - today. I dont think SA are completely mad, but IF they tried to attack / occupy Qatar, faced opposition from Turkish troops and attacked them. What does NATO do? article 5 is in play. Does NATO line up against SA?

Anybody else notice that the `funding terrorism` report, that many pundits assumed names SA, and that the government were facing pressure to publish - has vanished from the news.

I think we can assume 3 major things, Firstly, this is about Natural Gas - resource access and access to pipelines (the Saudis are missing out here) and there is an internal power struggle going on. Secondly the US is happy to stir trouble in the region (and Israel approves) the US has the petro$ to defend. They must me uncomfortable that both Qatar and UAE are increasingly trading in Chinese currency (both now have official exchanges) Lastly, the funding of proxy terror armies and `color` revolution by many national actors is now out in the open - everybody needs a bag holder.

Qatar is the bag holder. But they are used to playing both sides of the fence on at least 3 fronts at once. They are likely to make a lot of trouble instead of taking a wrap on the knuckles.

just remembered re NATO -- Germany is leaving Incirlik, having grown tired of the Turks allegedly obstructing their access.


Catweazle

1,159 posts

142 months

Thursday 8th June 2017
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rival38 said:
Turkey expects to have 3-5 K crack infantry troops in country - today. I dont think SA are completely mad, but IF they tried to attack / occupy Qatar, faced opposition from Turkish troops and attacked them. What does NATO do? article 5 is in play. Does NATO line up against SA?
Article 5 doesn't apply in that region.

geeks

9,188 posts

139 months

Thursday 8th June 2017
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Have to travel to SA for work soon, wasn't particularly looking forward to it, now a bit less so, although I suspect as per the norm I won't give it a second thought while I am there!

rival38

487 posts

145 months

Thursday 8th June 2017
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Catweazle said:
Article 5 doesn't apply in that region.
Many thanks - a small plus in a complex situation.

dudleybloke

19,824 posts

186 months

Thursday 8th June 2017
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Qatar have some interesting links to the Clinton Foundation.

FourWheelDrift

88,523 posts

284 months

Thursday 8th June 2017
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dudleybloke said:
Qatar have some interesting links to the Clinton Foundation.
Isn't a cheque for $1million dollars just a normal gift you would give to an ex-President for his 65th birthday?

Wobbegong

15,077 posts

169 months

Thursday 8th June 2017
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dudleybloke said:
Qatar have some interesting links to the Clinton Foundation.
Thankfully it is not Trump. I don't think I could put up with anymore whining from the likes of CNN.

shirt

22,568 posts

201 months

Thursday 8th June 2017
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rival38 said:
Iran sending first fresh food, aid flight, to Doha today.

Simple for them to set up sea supply line also - only @10hours steaming time.

Turkey expects to have 3-5 K crack infantry troops in country - today. I dont think SA are completely mad, but IF they tried to attack / occupy Qatar, faced opposition from Turkish troops and attacked them. What does NATO do? article 5 is in play. Does NATO line up against SA?

Anybody else notice that the `funding terrorism` report, that many pundits assumed names SA, and that the government were facing pressure to publish - has vanished from the news.

I think we can assume 3 major things, Firstly, this is about Natural Gas - resource access and access to pipelines (the Saudis are missing out here) and there is an internal power struggle going on. Secondly the US is happy to stir trouble in the region (and Israel approves) the US has the petro$ to defend. They must me uncomfortable that both Qatar and UAE are increasingly trading in Chinese currency (both now have official exchanges) Lastly, the funding of proxy terror armies and `color` revolution by many national actors is now out in the open - everybody needs a bag holder.

Qatar is the bag holder. But they are used to playing both sides of the fence on at least 3 fronts at once. They are likely to make a lot of trouble instead of taking a wrap on the knuckles.

just remembered re NATO -- Germany is leaving Incirlik, having grown tired of the Turks allegedly obstructing their access.
A truly wonderful post which perfectly displays how little people in the west understand this region.

Read this.

https://medium.com/@MiddleEastEye/why-the-campaign...

Likes Fast Cars

2,770 posts

165 months

Thursday 8th June 2017
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rival38 said:
Iran sending first fresh food, aid flight, to Doha today.

Simple for them to set up sea supply line also - only @10hours steaming time.

Turkey expects to have 3-5 K crack infantry troops in country - today. I dont think SA are completely mad, but IF they tried to attack / occupy Qatar, faced opposition from Turkish troops and attacked them. What does NATO do? article 5 is in play. Does NATO line up against SA?

Anybody else notice that the `funding terrorism` report, that many pundits assumed names SA, and that the government were facing pressure to publish - has vanished from the news.

I think we can assume 3 major things, Firstly, this is about Natural Gas - resource access and access to pipelines (the Saudis are missing out here) and there is an internal power struggle going on. Secondly the US is happy to stir trouble in the region (and Israel approves) the US has the petro$ to defend. They must me uncomfortable that both Qatar and UAE are increasingly trading in Chinese currency (both now have official exchanges) Lastly, the funding of proxy terror armies and `color` revolution by many national actors is now out in the open - everybody needs a bag holder.

Qatar is the bag holder. But they are used to playing both sides of the fence on at least 3 fronts at once. They are likely to make a lot of trouble instead of taking a wrap on the knuckles.

just remembered re NATO -- Germany is leaving Incirlik, having grown tired of the Turks allegedly obstructing their access.
The talk is certainly around the Saudis wanting to remove the current ruling family and installing a puppet ruling family, mainly for the two highlighted reasons above.

As for having Turkey as an ally rofl
This place has enough problems to deal with, last time they tried meddling anywhere they got their arses handed to them.

rival38

487 posts

145 months

Thursday 8th June 2017
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Read this.

https://medium.com/@MiddleEastEye/why-the-campaign...
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Thanks, a good read, which rather agrees with me that Qatar is not going to be an easy whipping boy.

This article was published some time ago - still worth a read. Interesting viewpoint on Qatar`s role in the region, beyond and who its friends are.

http://thesaker.is/qatar-unplugged/

saaby93

32,038 posts

178 months

Thursday 8th June 2017
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Can someone set out in a few lines what this is about confused
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-402058...


NoIP

559 posts

84 months

Thursday 8th June 2017
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saaby93 said:
Can someone set out in a few lines what this is about confused
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-402058...
Try reading the links posted in the previous 2 posts ? rolleyes