Huge Fire In Block Of Flats

[spaximus]

Lotobear said:

The actual numbers won't matter as they will believe what they want to believe, regardless of reason or facts. Lily said so after all.

For the same reason the inquiry will be a waste of time as that will not be believed either. It's governmental murder whatever the learned judge decides, JC's right hand man has already declared it to be so.

Spot on. The police are hand in hand with those who are covering this up. The enquiry is another Hillsborough cover up and it is actually hundreds dead, all this according to those in the know on facebook because it was an easy way to treat poor.

All we can do is prepare for the usual suspects dismissing the findings if it doesn't fit their agenda. Lammy has decided it was murder, so has MacDonald so that is what the brainless will say is the truth whatever is found by reviewing the evidence.

[zygalski]

Full spite ahead in this thread I see.
Top job keeping up the usual N,P&E standard, boys.

[bitchstewie]

zygalski said:

Full spite ahead in this thread I see.
Top job keeping up the usual N,P&E standard, boys.

Good aint it.

Somewhere in there you'd think someone might even be grateful there's a few less dead people than reported.

[zygalski]

bhstewie said:

zygalski said:

Full spite ahead in this thread I see.
Top job keeping up the usual N,P&E standard, boys.

Good aint it.

Somewhere in there you'd think someone might even be grateful there's a few less dead people than reported.

Priorities, dear boy.
More important to take a swing at Lily Allen.

[V8 Fettler]

Has the inquiry reached the point where it's decided that the primary cause of the fatalities was the flammable cladding that burnt because it was flammable?

[Disco Infiltrator]

zygalski said:

bhstewie said:

zygalski said:

Full spite ahead in this thread I see.
Top job keeping up the usual N,P&E standard, boys.

Good aint it.

Somewhere in there you'd think someone might even be grateful there's a few less dead people than reported.

Priorities, dear boy.
More important to take a swing at Lily Allen.

Saw that one too. I saw the interview and all she said was local residents thought the death toll was around 150. It's not as though she pulled the figure out of her arse to wind up the NPE regulars.

We still have absolutely no way of knowing the facts yet.

[Stickyfinger]

Disco Infiltrator said:

Saw that one too. I saw the interview and all she said was local residents thought the death toll was around 150. It's not as though she pulled the figure out of her arse to wind up the NPE regulars.

We still have absolutely no way of knowing the facts yet.

But Ms Allen seems too...........

[Disco Infiltrator]

Stickyfinger said:

Disco Infiltrator said:

Saw that one too. I saw the interview and all she said was local residents thought the death toll was around 150. It's not as though she pulled the figure out of her arse to wind up the NPE regulars.

We still have absolutely no way of knowing the facts yet.

But Ms Allen seems too...........

Did you read and understand what I posted?


Local residents thought, not Lilly Allen says...

[bitchstewie]

Seems Police may not be limiting their options to corporate manslaughter either https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/sep/19/gr...

[WinstonWolf]

zygalski said:

Full spite ahead in this thread I see.
Top job keeping up the usual N,P&E standard, boys.

Keeping up your support for the fraudsters I see...

[don'tbesilly]

bhstewie said:

zygalski said:

Full spite ahead in this thread I see.
Top job keeping up the usual N,P&E standard, boys.

Good aint it.

Somewhere in there you'd think someone might even be grateful there's a few less dead people than reported.

If some of the dead people you refer to above never existed in the first place there would not be anything to be grateful for.

According to quite a few media stories doing the rounds some survivors are being investigated for making fraudulent claims for people that are turning out to be nothing other than 'imaginary friends'.

[kowalski655]

austinsmirk said:

actually heard the news earlier whilst driving. Some chap ranting about wanting individuals held to account and jailed.

The odds of council staff, following prescribed building regulations (and the law) of that happening, is going to be slim.


has anyone (in the 1000's of posts on here yet) spotted how anyone refurbing and cladding the tower broke the law ?

I heard that...lets no bother about a little thing like a trial eh?

[bitchstewie]

don'tbesilly said:

bhstewie said:

zygalski said:

Full spite ahead in this thread I see.
Top job keeping up the usual N,P&E standard, boys.

Good aint it.

Somewhere in there you'd think someone might even be grateful there's a few less dead people than reported.

If some of the dead people you refer to above never existed in the first place there would not be anything to be grateful for.

According to quite a few media stories doing the rounds some survivors are being investigated for making fraudulent claims for people that are turning out to be nothing other than 'imaginary friends'.

If fraud played a part in that then absolutely that needs to be dealt with by the law.

It's still a bit of a NP&E thing that when it's reported that less people have died than assumed it's not seen as a good thing, rather an excuse for a bunch of bhing about Lilly Allen.

It's as if people need someone to hate or get angry about or something equally as miserable.

It's bizarre and probably not too healthy either.

[Randy Winkman]

WinstonWolf said:

zygalski said:

Full spite ahead in this thread I see.
Top job keeping up the usual N,P&E standard, boys.

Keeping up your support for the fraudsters I see...

I'd say he's just pointing out that for some PHers a bit of dishonesty by some citizens is more important than people burning to death.

[Smiler.]

Randy Winkman said:

I'd say he's just pointing out that for some PHers a bit of dishonesty by some citizens is more important than people burning to death.

Your smug is leaking.

[Pesty]

Randy Winkman said:

WinstonWolf said:

zygalski said:

Full spite ahead in this thread I see.
Top job keeping up the usual N,P&E standard, boys.

Keeping up your support for the fraudsters I see...

I'd say he's just pointing out that for some PHers a bit of dishonesty by some citizens is more important than people burning to death.

If only he'd post more about the victim they'd spring back to life.

[anonymous-user]

Smiler. said:

Randy Winkman said:

I'd say he's just pointing out that for some PHers a bit of dishonesty by some citizens is more important than people burning to death.

Your smug is leaking.

Maybe he'd be better off keeping his opinion to himself, as indeed might everyone else until the facts are finally known. If they ever are.

[markcoznottz]

Some interesting posts on Facebook which are being hastily deleted overnight. Everything wrong with the uk was represented in that flat. Refugees, subletting, disguised employees, takeaway slaves, etc. People with no real stake in life and may as well be living in a parralel universe. How ironic that the hands off right on attitude of don't look to closely , of the local authority might have exacerbated the situation? At the very least it can't have helped.

[Stickyfinger]

markcoznottz said:

Some interesting posts on Facebook which are being hastily deleted overnight. Everything wrong with the uk was represented in that flat. Refugees, subletting, disguised employees, takeaway slaves, etc. People with no real stake in life and may as well be living in a parralel universe. How ironic that the hands off right on attitude of don't look to closely , of the local authority might have exacerbated the situation? At the very least it can't have helped.

Given we ALL are very very sad at the loss of life and ALL of us feel there is indeed a great need to help and assist those effected......


This situation seems to be a microcosm of the failure of all local government, "benefits", local housing "regulations" and lack of sanctions for illegal acts (like sub letting), lack of records relating to immigration etc etc

what a fecking mess..........

[Thankyou4calling]

markcoznottz said:

Some interesting posts on Facebook which are being hastily deleted overnight. Everything wrong with the uk was represented in that flat. Refugees, subletting, disguised employees, takeaway slaves, etc. People with no real stake in life and may as well be living in a parralel universe. How ironic that the hands off right on attitude of don't look to closely , of the local authority might have exacerbated the situation? At the very least it can't have helped.

I'm not trying to start an arguement for the sake of but there have been no official stats on numbers (if any) people sub letting, any illegal immigrants, private residents, employment etc.

As far as i'm aware all of the above has been gossip fuelled by speculation in the media.

Yes an amnesty was offered but we don't know if there were any people in receipt of it.

Now i'm the first to say "It's obvious there will be people sub letting in Grenfell" but we don't actually know.