Huge Fire In Block Of Flats
Discussion
saaby93 said:
Mark300zx said:
saaby93 said:
Mark300zx said:
saaby93 said:
Also it looking like a firework shouldnt have been a problem - other clad buildings have caught fire but the fire didnt get inside
Just wondering if you have any fire-related qualifications?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yQLIlIetDM
Here is a list of fires by the sprinkler network but includes a discussion of cladding
http://eurosprinkler.org/dubai-hotel-fire-could-ha...
That's not to say sprinklers would be appropriate in this tower but see the last paragraph for UK cladding requirements
The (in)aptly named Dubai torch caught fire twice
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Marina_Torch
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-40822...
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hstewie said:
hstewie said: CCTV released/shown today of the chap whose flat the fire started in as he left.
He was barefoot and carrying nothing, contrary to some of the media reports at the time.
It does make you question some of the "journalism" out there.
This is abhorrent. Anyone who published such insanely unconfirmed stories should be severely reprimanded. It’s disgusting. He was barefoot and carrying nothing, contrary to some of the media reports at the time.
It does make you question some of the "journalism" out there.
Would be interesting to find out just where this 'story' began. Laurel Green said:
On ITV local TV News earlier, one of the firemen was saying that he noticed the fire had breached the window and wanted to put an hose on it; the 'something manager' (sorry, didn't catch the title) told him not to.
What the juddering fk!
Risk to the firefighters in the flat getting smashed by the water apparently. I guess it makes sense considering they didn’t conceive the cladding would set on fire. How were they to know it escaping the window would be the main problem. Established principles were useless at Grenfell as I understand it. What the juddering f
k!Laurel Green said:
On ITV local TV News earlier, one of the firemen was saying that he noticed the fire had breached the window and wanted to put an hose on it; the 'something manager' (sorry, didn't catch the title) told him not to.
What the juddering fk!
No that didn't happen.What the juddering f
k!This whole thing will be a media frenzy, all of them seeking profits from attention.
silverthorn2151 said:
Now that the enquiry is past the tales from residents it's into the technical stuff. Can I recommend the daily podcast from radio 4. Very interesting and would allow discussion here with more detailed information rather than Chinese whispers and supposition.
But how do they get the technical info about how things unfolded without anyone saying anything? Inanimate objects cant speak can they?Mark300zx said:
Laurel Green said:
On ITV local TV News earlier, one of the firemen was saying that he noticed the fire had breached the window and wanted to put an hose on it; the 'something manager' (sorry, didn't catch the title) told him not to.
What the juddering fk!
No that didn't happen.What the juddering f
k!This whole thing will be a media frenzy, all of them seeking profits from attention.
Found a link to what you are referring, and that is external, not internal to which I thought you were referring.
Without being at the scene and at what point is hard to determine, could have been the start of the fire or it ripping up the building.
Fire breaching the window should not have been a problem.
The firefighter would have been told not to spray water onto the window because when you spray water onto a fire it expands a lot and absorbs the heat. This steam can burn and kill the firefighters and or the casualties in the compartment.
Without being at the scene and at what point is hard to determine, could have been the start of the fire or it ripping up the building.
Fire breaching the window should not have been a problem.
The firefighter would have been told not to spray water onto the window because when you spray water onto a fire it expands a lot and absorbs the heat. This steam can burn and kill the firefighters and or the casualties in the compartment.
The worst offenders of 'fake news' are the main-stream media themselves. Through my work I have seen news reports on stories where I have detailed knowledge of the facts. They have, in all cases to date, reported incorrect or mangled information. I have therefore learned to never believe anything I see or read about in the news.
As a pointless little side note, I don’t know why I assumed Grenfell to be a grotty council block akin to where I grew up, not something modern with glass and stainless steel everywhere.
CCTV still below is very different to what I imagined.
CCTV still below is very different to what I imagined.
Edited by p1stonhead on Thursday 21st June 21:07
Mark300zx said:
Found a link to what you are referring, and that is external, not internal to which I thought you were referring.
Without being at the scene and at what point is hard to determine, could have been the start of the fire or it ripping up the building.
Fire breaching the window should not have been a problem.
The firefighter would have been told not to spray water onto the window because when you spray water onto a fire it expands a lot and absorbs the heat. This steam can burn and kill the firefighters and or the casualties in the compartment.
Thanks for clearing that up. Without being at the scene and at what point is hard to determine, could have been the start of the fire or it ripping up the building.
Fire breaching the window should not have been a problem.
The firefighter would have been told not to spray water onto the window because when you spray water onto a fire it expands a lot and absorbs the heat. This steam can burn and kill the firefighters and or the casualties in the compartment.
p1stonhead said:
As a pointless little side note, I don’t know why I assumed Grenfell to be a grotty council block akin to where I grew up, not something modern with glass and stainless steel everywhere.
CCTV still below is very different to what I imagined.
It had had a10m refurb so I would hope it didn't look like a stereotype grotty council block.CCTV still below is very different to what I imagined.
Edited by p1stonhead on Thursday 21st June 21:07
Some will tell you that the money was only spent so rich people didn't have to look at a grotty council block though.
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