Tory-DUP Confidence And Supply deal
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techiedave said:
BigMon said:
MercedesClassic said:
The UK is going through a tough time but not for the last time will we as group of 4 fabulous nations rise to meet the challenge and look back and wonder what the fuss was about. That's my hopeful belief anyway. I thought by now I'd hit a word limit! As they said during the blitz Keep calm and carry on.
Small tip, break up your posts with whitespace. A block of text is very difficult to read.Anyway, I've picked out the above. I hope you're right, but I think 2017 Britain is very different to 1940 Britain and I don't think there is any Dunkirk spirit left to be honest.
You only have to see the panic when there is half an inch of snow and supermarket deliveries are affected. Shelves cleared of bread and milk in an instant and no thought of anyone else whilst buying 12 pints of milk and 8 loaves of bread.
We live in an 'I'm alright Jack so fk you' society now. Sadly it's reflected in a lot of posts on the Pistonheads forum in general.
My wife does a few things with older people. Takes them shopping. Its done via local group that was set up by a retired sprightly woman who noticed that older folk near her were held hostage by the likes of the small chain shop. A few got together my wife heard of it and joined in. So once a fortnight off she goes picks up Beryl/ Mavis/ Margaret/ George and off they go. They save a fair few quid and she gets to chat with them. Along the way she has invited folk round for the Sunday lunches. Our daughters when growing up would sit with them learn stuff, be amazed at stories of Black n white tellies old everyday things. I would hear about Ford Anglias Vauxhall Vivas Singer whatevers Hillman Imps
My wife found that few of her mates (those on the pirapheny as she calls them) were mocking her. Like she said that's their loss.
When its bad weather we both make a point of checking a couple of oldies in the street are ok do they need shopping etc.
You can witness intolerance to old people everyday. It's not a brexit effect I am referring to just plain old fashioned bad manners. You see it in Post Offices with old Bill trying to enter his poin number to get his money out and people tutting because they are having to wait an extra 2 minutes to post their "re gifted" e bay package off that one of their relatives bought but which is the wrong colour or not up to the standard they expected. I realise that most PH'ers wont see it as they don't use those pesky buses BUT You see it with people on the buses huffing in queues because old Betty is taking a few seconds to pick up her pass and walk to a seat that's halfway down the bus. That's because the front seats have been taken by some selfish b
h with 2 kids who ignores the sign saying seats for elderly priority. Then the tutters tender a ten quid note and hold the queu up far longer than Betty did.A lot of it is me me me.
I totally agree with your statement. I've an 89 yo aunt, only family left on my dad's side. She worked all her life, also her husband, lost a baby no other kids. Was amazing aunt to us when we lost our parents. Anyway she's a gem. However the fact she worked all her life, paid NI, saved past her and lived frugally blocked her from getting support or benefits when she needed it because 'she's too rich'! Lots of ladies she knows didn't bother (or couldn't) working or saving but they get all the perks. She's now in a home with mind dementia, physically she's pick of the litter. However it's £2600 a month so all her private and state pension £1200 (combined her and husbands) so basically at end of month see has few quid from savings to buy underwear and everything else. Disgrace.
I know what you mean about people tutting. Rarely happens but sometimes when I'd take her shopping and she only gets out once in a while and loves it. Of course at the till she's chit chat with the operator which they love as nonone chat to the 'plebs' anymore. She thinks it's 1940's and everyone has time to chat. Honestly young people are generally lovely to her but yummy mummy types are the worst, understandably they might be stressed with kids.
Anyway at the end of the day we've to get up and go to work to keep the wolf from the door and hopefully afford a few nice things along the way.
Ps goo on you doing those things for the elderly. They have so much knowledge and love to be interacted with. I used to do youth work which was challenging but rewarding too.
turbobloke said:
gooner1 said:
With regard to the younger generation, specifically the "entitlement culture" species.
How have they turned out this way. Nurture or Nature.
Previous generations have hardly been a beacon of light to them, imo.
FWIW, I think that in times of real adversary, the young ones wouldn't be so different
than previous generations.
They've got off to a bad start, blaming boomers for their own ills.How have they turned out this way. Nurture or Nature.
Previous generations have hardly been a beacon of light to them, imo.
FWIW, I think that in times of real adversary, the young ones wouldn't be so different
than previous generations.
Just as previous generations blamed previous generations, round and round we go
You don't consider they, the younger generation, may well have a point?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/mar/07/gene...
gooner1 said:
turbobloke said:
gooner1 said:
With regard to the younger generation, specifically the "entitlement culture" species.
How have they turned out this way. Nurture or Nature.
Previous generations have hardly been a beacon of light to them, imo.
FWIW, I think that in times of real adversary, the young ones wouldn't be so different
than previous generations.
They've got off to a bad start, blaming boomers for their own ills.How have they turned out this way. Nurture or Nature.
Previous generations have hardly been a beacon of light to them, imo.
FWIW, I think that in times of real adversary, the young ones wouldn't be so different
than previous generations.
Just as previous generations blamed previous generations, round and round we go
You don't consider they, the younger generation, may well have a point?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/mar/07/gene...
http://www.ageuk.org.uk/money-matters/claiming-ben...
[quote] .....The UK is going through a tough time but not for the last time will we as group of 4 fabulous nations rise to meet the challenge and look back and wonder what the fuss was about.....
[/quote]
Nation- a body of people united by common descent, history, culture, or language, inhabiting a particular state or territory.
Northern Ireland is not a nation. It was created by men in a room in london under threat of UVF violence by drawing a line on a map which captured most of the protestants but not too many of the catholics. Ignoring the democratic will of the majority in Ireland to appease the minority and simultaneously retain the lucrative shipbuilding and textile industries for London, it was created. An artificially created gerrymandered sectarian failed statelet thats been going economically, socially and culturally backwards since 1922.
[/quote]
Nation- a body of people united by common descent, history, culture, or language, inhabiting a particular state or territory.
Northern Ireland is not a nation. It was created by men in a room in london under threat of UVF violence by drawing a line on a map which captured most of the protestants but not too many of the catholics. Ignoring the democratic will of the majority in Ireland to appease the minority and simultaneously retain the lucrative shipbuilding and textile industries for London, it was created. An artificially created gerrymandered sectarian failed statelet thats been going economically, socially and culturally backwards since 1922.
Edited by mrmarcus on Wednesday 28th June 14:33
[quote] .....The UK is going through a tough time but not for the last time will we as group of 4 fabulous nations rise to meet the challenge and look back and wonder what the fuss was about.....
[/quote]
Nation- a body of people united by common descent, history, culture, or language, inhabiting a particular state or territory.
Northern Ireland is not a nation. It was created by men in a room in london under threat of UVF violence by drawing a line on a map which captured most of the protestants but not too many of the catholics. Ignoring the democratic will of the majority in Ireland to appease the minority and simultaneously retain the lucrative shipbuilding and textile industries for London, it was created. An artificially created gerrymandered sectarian failed statelet thats been going economically, socially and culturally backwards since 1922.
[/quote]
Nation- a body of people united by common descent, history, culture, or language, inhabiting a particular state or territory.
Northern Ireland is not a nation. It was created by men in a room in london under threat of UVF violence by drawing a line on a map which captured most of the protestants but not too many of the catholics. Ignoring the democratic will of the majority in Ireland to appease the minority and simultaneously retain the lucrative shipbuilding and textile industries for London, it was created. An artificially created gerrymandered sectarian failed statelet thats been going economically, socially and culturally backwards since 1922.
Edited by mrmarcus on Wednesday 28th June 14:48
Jockman said:
I suppose it depends which picture you use? Yours is obviously crisper than mine.
http://www.ageuk.org.uk/money-matters/claiming-ben...
But the above is the fault of us all, surely?http://www.ageuk.org.uk/money-matters/claiming-ben...
mrmarcus said:
Northern Ireland is not a nation. It was created by men in a room in london under threat of UVF violence by drawing a line on a map which captured most of the protestants but not too many of the catholics. Ignoring the democratic will of the majority in Ireland to appease the minority and simultaneously retain the lucrative shipbuilding and textile industries for London, it was created. ]An artificially created gerrymandered sectarian failed statelet thats been going economically, socially and culturally backwards since 1922.
As a point of order all nations were created by men, or mankind at least, there isn't a nation on earth that is a natural creation, borders might be real in the sense that a person in a uniform will ask you for a passport when you cross over one, but they are man made creations.gooner1 said:
Jockman said:
I suppose it depends which picture you use? Yours is obviously crisper than mine.
http://www.ageuk.org.uk/money-matters/claiming-ben...
But the above is the fault of us all, surely?http://www.ageuk.org.uk/money-matters/claiming-ben...
Just don't want everyone thinking Pensioners are are homogeneous group of wealthy BTL merchants.
Jockman said:
gooner1 said:
Jockman said:
No quibble with that, matey.
Just don't want everyone thinking Pensioners are are homogeneous group of wealthy BTL merchants.
Well, I'm 6 months of joining them, if I choose to, and I'm certainly not in that group.Just don't want everyone thinking Pensioners are are homogeneous group of wealthy BTL merchants.
gooner1 said:
Jockman said:
gooner1 said:
Jockman said:
No quibble with that, matey.
Just don't want everyone thinking Pensioners are are homogeneous group of wealthy BTL merchants.
Well, I'm 6 months of joining them, if I choose to, and I'm certainly not in that group.Just don't want everyone thinking Pensioners are are homogeneous group of wealthy BTL merchants.
http://bowlsclub.org/clubs/GB/ENG-NTH/
Hey, don't mention it. You're welcome.
Jockman said:
Did a bit of digging for you....
http://bowlsclub.org/clubs/GB/ENG-NTH/
Hey, don't mention it. You're welcome.
No, need mate, my eldest Daughter works at the local Green.http://bowlsclub.org/clubs/GB/ENG-NTH/
Hey, don't mention it. You're welcome.
Sod that, far too sedate for my taste, besides, I 'd probably be de -Bowled in a very short
time..
Jockman said:
gooner1 said:
turbobloke said:
gooner1 said:
With regard to the younger generation, specifically the "entitlement culture" species.
How have they turned out this way. Nurture or Nature.
Previous generations have hardly been a beacon of light to them, imo.
FWIW, I think that in times of real adversary, the young ones wouldn't be so different
than previous generations.
They've got off to a bad start, blaming boomers for their own ills.How have they turned out this way. Nurture or Nature.
Previous generations have hardly been a beacon of light to them, imo.
FWIW, I think that in times of real adversary, the young ones wouldn't be so different
than previous generations.
Just as previous generations blamed previous generations, round and round we go
You don't consider they, the younger generation, may well have a point?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/mar/07/gene...
http://www.ageuk.org.uk/money-matters/claiming-ben...
BMWBen said:
Jockman said:
gooner1 said:
turbobloke said:
gooner1 said:
With regard to the younger generation, specifically the "entitlement culture" species.
How have they turned out this way. Nurture or Nature.
Previous generations have hardly been a beacon of light to them, imo.
FWIW, I think that in times of real adversary, the young ones wouldn't be so different
than previous generations.
They've got off to a bad start, blaming boomers for their own ills.How have they turned out this way. Nurture or Nature.
Previous generations have hardly been a beacon of light to them, imo.
FWIW, I think that in times of real adversary, the young ones wouldn't be so different
than previous generations.
Just as previous generations blamed previous generations, round and round we go
You don't consider they, the younger generation, may well have a point?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/mar/07/gene...
http://www.ageuk.org.uk/money-matters/claiming-ben...
The article does however highlight the 1.6m Pensioners who live on or below the poverty line. Not just a single case.
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