Tory-DUP Confidence And Supply deal
Discussion
Eddie Strohacker said:
£120m on a failed election. £1bn on bribing 10 MP's to prop up the government, but let's make this ALL about Labour. Incredible.
Only on N,P&E.Apparently £1 billion+ is peanuts now too.
This whole thing has been an utter shambles, with the only ray of sunshine the fact that Corbyn didn't get in.
BigMon said:
Eddie Strohacker said:
£120m on a failed election. £1bn on bribing 10 MP's to prop up the government, but let's make this ALL about Labour. Incredible.
Only on N,P&E.Apparently £1 billion+ is peanuts now too.
Last year's total gov't (public) spending was £762billion, the DUP bribe is close to being a rounding error on this year's bill at 0.1% to 1dp.
Edited by turbobloke on Monday 26th June 16:58
ash73 said:
Eddie Strohacker said:
ash73 said:
JagLover said:
arp1 said:
So the magic money tree DOES exist after all? Who would have thunk it!
The magic money tree comments were in relation to Labour's spending commitments which totaled tens of billions of pounds.As I understand it actual new money for NI is £1bn (£500m having already been committed prior to the agreement) .
ash73 said:
Whereas Comrade Corbyn's £100bn on bribing voters under 30 is fine, obviously. That's one hundred billion pounds, in case the number didn't sink in. That's more than our annual education budget. More than twice our entire defence budget. Insane.
Talk about triggered. This is a discussion about May & the DUP isn't it?So funny how everyone sinks into what aboutery.
It's a billion quid. It doesn't matter what other people do because it's a billion quid that didn't have to be spent if it wasn't for a f
king shambles of an election campaign.
Think how many good things could be done with a billion quid in light of recent events, yet here we are paying a billion quid for 10 votes.
It's a billion quid. It doesn't matter what other people do because it's a billion quid that didn't have to be spent if it wasn't for a f
king shambles of an election campaign.Think how many good things could be done with a billion quid in light of recent events, yet here we are paying a billion quid for 10 votes.
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: So funny how everyone sinks into what aboutery.
It's a billion quid. It doesn't matter what other people do because it's a billion quid that didn't have to be spent if it wasn't for a fking shambles of an election campaign.
Think how many good things could be done with a billion quid in light of recent events, yet here we are paying a billion quid for 10 votes.
It's a billion quid. It doesn't matter what other people do because it's a billion quid that didn't have to be spent if it wasn't for a f
king shambles of an election campaign.Think how many good things could be done with a billion quid in light of recent events, yet here we are paying a billion quid for 10 votes.
people saying 'but labour would be worse!' just shows how bad things are that they have to rely on such a pathetic defence. bhstewie said:
hstewie said: So funny how everyone sinks into what aboutery.
It's a billion quid. It doesn't matter what other people do because it's a billion quid that didn't have to be spent if it wasn't for a fking shambles of an election campaign.
Think how many good things could be done with a billion quid in light of recent events, yet here we are paying a billion quid for 10 votes.
They could just take it out of the overseas aid budget, which is geographically correct.It's a billion quid. It doesn't matter what other people do because it's a billion quid that didn't have to be spent if it wasn't for a f
king shambles of an election campaign.Think how many good things could be done with a billion quid in light of recent events, yet here we are paying a billion quid for 10 votes.
FourWheelDrift said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: So funny how everyone sinks into what aboutery.
It's a billion quid. It doesn't matter what other people do because it's a billion quid that didn't have to be spent if it wasn't for a fking shambles of an election campaign.
Think how many good things could be done with a billion quid in light of recent events, yet here we are paying a billion quid for 10 votes.
They could just take it out of the overseas aid budget, which is geographically correct.It's a billion quid. It doesn't matter what other people do because it's a billion quid that didn't have to be spent if it wasn't for a f
king shambles of an election campaign.Think how many good things could be done with a billion quid in light of recent events, yet here we are paying a billion quid for 10 votes.
They might well have to, when the cost of Grenfell and all it's accompanying add ons
are, well, added on. That has to a £billion, unbudgeted for, no?
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: So funny how everyone sinks into what aboutery.
It's a billion quid. It doesn't matter what other people do because it's a billion quid that didn't have to be spent if it wasn't for a fking shambles of an election campaign.
Think how many good things could be done with a billion quid in light of recent events, yet here we are paying a billion quid for 10 votes.
Its a cr*p situationIt's a billion quid. It doesn't matter what other people do because it's a billion quid that didn't have to be spent if it wasn't for a f
king shambles of an election campaign.Think how many good things could be done with a billion quid in light of recent events, yet here we are paying a billion quid for 10 votes.
But the past is the past. In the present we either pay the DUP a £1bn or have another election.
So personally I think the £1bn is a bargain when compared to having a hard left government.
JagLover said:
Its a cr*p situation
But the past is the past. In the present we either pay the DUP a £1bn or have another election.
So personally I think the £1bn is a bargain when compared to having a hard left government.
Who are the Tories going to bribe next time around? If £100m/vote is the going rate I would imagine the queue to be rather long.But the past is the past. In the present we either pay the DUP a £1bn or have another election.
So personally I think the £1bn is a bargain when compared to having a hard left government.
We have so many issues where there is "no money left" yet all of a sudden a billion quid of yours and my money can be found to support this shower of s
t.The elephant in the room that many on here don't want to address is the utter complacency and f
kwittery that's got us to this point, just like the election campaign the best anyone can offer is "Well it's better than the alternative".80 people burned or choked to death last week and people are making more of a song and dance about the cost of sorting that out than they are this, as if say "a billion quid" quickly enough and nobody will notice.
Sorry but it's utter b
ks.bhstewie said:
hstewie said: Think how many good things could be done with a billion quid in light of recent events, yet here we are paying a billion quid for 10 votes.
I very much agree. I've put together a suggestion for what good things the billion quid could have been spent on. It covers things like development to improve services for people, provides job creation, helping out poor people (very Labour like) and covers healthcare (again very "typical Labour"). What do you think?£400 Million for projects such as the York Street Interchange
£150 Million for faster broadband
£100 Million to tackle pockets of severe deprivation
£100 Million to address pressures in health and education
£200 Million for health services transformation
£50 Million for Mental Health
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: So funny how everyone sinks into what aboutery.
Think how many good things could be done with a billion quid in light of recent events, yet here we are paying a billion quid for 10 votes.
just £32 billion to buy a majority in parilment! cheap as chips - lets start a PH crowdfunder!Think how many good things could be done with a billion quid in light of recent events, yet here we are paying a billion quid for 10 votes.
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: Who are the Tories going to bribe next
Scotland. I'm not sure if the English public are aware of just how autonomous the Scottish Conservative Party are. They are a borderline (no pun intended) separate party. My MP (Tory) got my vote because he promised the Scottish Tories were not there to back May but to best look after the interests and wishes of their constituency, Scotland.
What's more, he'd better. He's got a majority of about 140. If May can't keep it together and there's an election a few gays, a few Catholics uncomfortable with the alliance with the bigoted anti-Catholic DUP, a few social liberals, a few remainers looking for as soft a Brexit as possible and a few disgruntled Scots unhappy at, say, the injustice of NI getting a disproportionate share of available funds and he's out. I'm not a nationalist but I like the fact the threat of independence is sitting there like a gun at the head of Scottish conservative MPs keen to hold on to their seats. I told him at my door my support is very precarious and if Scottish Tories aren't ferociously independent of the Conservative Party as a whole then Scotland will be more likely to be independent of the Union. There are a lot of Scots voting Conservative who are like-minded.
It may sound like a contradiction but in spite of this the Scots Tories are feeling emboldened. Ruth Davidson upped the Conservative vote north of the border. May lost MPs in droves. If it wasn't for the Scottish Conservatives she wouldn't even have a working majority with the DUP onside.
An MP said last week in anticipation of a hand-out to Northern Ireland said he expected a reciprocal and proportionate increase in budget to be allocated to Scotland. This wasn't a left wing loony Corbynite or fanatical Nationalist but a member of the Cabinet, a front bench Conservative, Secretary Of State For Scotland, David Mundell.
In answer to your question b
hstewie the next bribe will be £2.9 billion Edinburgh-bound. Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff