Robert Peston job ad - whites need not apply

Robert Peston job ad - whites need not apply

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Puggit

Original Poster:

48,474 posts

249 months

Monday 10th July 2017
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Peston said:
At @pestononsunday we're looking for an intern keen to learn about production and excited by politics. Is it you?

https://creativeaccess.org.uk/opportunity/trainee-...


How is this legal?

1) Why no EU residents?
2) Why no whites?

https://twitter.com/Peston/status/8836460906791280...

R8Steve

4,150 posts

176 months

Monday 10th July 2017
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The site it's advertised on describes itself as 'working to change the face of the creative industries, founded with the single purpose of providing young BAME people, paid training opportunities in creative companies and supporting them into full time employment.'

I don't see why they would be any less likely to get a job than anyone else in the first place so it does seem rather counter productive and backwards.

I'd struggle to imagine an advert saying only white people can apply tbh.

Pesty

42,655 posts

257 months

Monday 10th July 2017
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You're surprised by this? Been happening for years.


anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 10th July 2017
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Most likely they will try and categorise it as a training opportunity, not a job.

You can have for example women only leadership/mgt courses if you have an 'under representation' of women in mgt roles.

I dont have the interest to check into it, but that would be my guess

souper

2,433 posts

212 months

Monday 10th July 2017
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Irish are classed as BAME the vast majority been white but they would fail in applying purely because they are white. Hmm!

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

124 months

Monday 10th July 2017
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wsurfa said:
Most likely they will try and categorise it as a training opportunity, not a job.

You can have for example women only leadership/mgt courses if you have an 'under representation' of women in mgt roles.

I dont have the interest to check into it, but that would be my guess
You're correct.


Mastodon2

13,826 posts

166 months

Monday 10th July 2017
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This kind of vile racism has no place in our society and it is frankly appalling that it is allowed to happen under a creative bending of the rules.

Wobbegong

15,077 posts

170 months

Monday 10th July 2017
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How do they decide if you're dark enough? My friend is from a 'black' British background but is albino. Could he apply or would he fail the colour chart?

Actually I'll forward it to him and see if he'll apply for a laugh hehe

Lance Catamaran

24,989 posts

228 months

Monday 10th July 2017
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Discrimination by any other name is still discrimination

dromong

689 posts

221 months

Monday 10th July 2017
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Dianne Abbott is a specialist in this type of discrimination. If it was the other way round there would be riots.

gooner1

10,223 posts

180 months

Monday 10th July 2017
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Me? White? Whatever gave you that idea?

98elise

26,644 posts

162 months

Monday 10th July 2017
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What if you identify as black?

Charlie Hoskins

310 posts

84 months

Monday 10th July 2017
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Any one here running a business ought to see how far they get by offering a 'training opportunity' and advertising 'whites only'.

Copy their ad word for word switching 'visible ethnic background' for 'visible white indigenous'.

Now that would be newsworthy.

schmunk

4,399 posts

126 months

Monday 10th July 2017
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Mastodon2 said:
vile racism
laugh
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Oh, you're being serious...?


anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 10th July 2017
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Whatever happened to giving the job to the most experienced?

Lance Catamaran

24,989 posts

228 months

Monday 10th July 2017
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schmunk said:
Mastodon2 said:
vile racism
laugh
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Oh, you're being serious...?
Could you please explain how refusing someone a job because of the colour of their skin is not racist?

Carl_Manchester

12,230 posts

263 months

Monday 10th July 2017
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Raygun said:
Whatever happened to giving the job to the most experienced?
In some jobs rules must be broken to give non-white people a foot in the door, I don't mind it personally as long as the industries are targeted and directed as being in need of such (football management is argued as being such an example). Having a more balanced in-take of can bring positive benefits if it reflect the society it represents, sadly many professions do not reflect the composition of modern UK society, they reflect what UK society looked like in the 1960s.

Helping Women in engineering roles is another example positive discrimination that I agree with.

In this specific example of media and the arts, I don't really mind if it means that we get more talented black actors into the industry like Robert Downey Jr :



Edited by Carl_Manchester on Monday 10th July 12:23

eatcustard

1,003 posts

128 months

Monday 10th July 2017
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What if you are white and live in Bradford, could you apply then? smile

Dindoit

1,645 posts

95 months

Monday 10th July 2017
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I'm a white man however I identify as a black woman so I'm OK to apply.

Nothingtoseehere

7,379 posts

155 months

Monday 10th July 2017
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Carl_Manchester said:
In some jobs rules must be broken to give non-white people a foot in the door, I don't mind it personally as long as the industries are targeted and directed as being in need of such (football management is argued as being such an example). Having a more balanced in-take of can bring positive benefits if it reflect the society it represents, sadly many professions do not reflect the composition of modern UK society, they reflect what UK society looked like in the 1960s.

Helping Women in engineering roles is another example positive discrimination that I agree with.

In this specific example of media and the arts, I don't really mind if it means that we get more talented black actors into the industry like Robert Downey Jr :



Edited by Carl_Manchester on Monday 10th July 12:23
Wow.
Couldnt disagree more.
Maybe more leading roles should be given to really ugly people?