PC censorship vs debate and free speech, worrying trends.

PC censorship vs debate and free speech, worrying trends.

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Goaty Bill 2

3,414 posts

120 months

Thursday 24th August 2017
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Mothersruin said:
no need to thank me

Mothersruin

8,573 posts

100 months

Thursday 24th August 2017
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Goaty Bill 2 said:
Mothersruin said:
no need to thank me
Thank you, wait, ummm

AshVX220

5,929 posts

191 months

Thursday 24th August 2017
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JagLover said:
This

Have a look at what is going on in American universities and tell me Universities have free speech.

Someone said earlier that MPs have the freest speech. But this is not for the most part a legal issue. It is about people expressing an opinion, or even basic scientific fact, then a storm of people claiming it is an "ism".

It has cost people their reputations, even their jobs and careers, and it seems to be getting worse every year.

A good article I read said that the "liberal" part of "liberal democracy" had separated from democracy, in that they no longer believed in it. It seems clear to me that those who call themselves "liberals" don't actually believe in liberalism either.
This, to me liberalism is now a more acceptable term for socialism.

otolith

56,167 posts

205 months

Thursday 24th August 2017
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anonymous said:
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That's what happens when you have a post-scarcity economy.

Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

245 months

Thursday 24th August 2017
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otolith said:
That's what happens when you have a post-scarcity economy.
We don't know what happens when you have a post-scarcity economy, we've never had one.

otolith

56,167 posts

205 months

Tuesday 5th September 2017
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Einion Yrth said:
otolith said:
That's what happens when you have a post-scarcity economy.
We don't know what happens when you have a post-scarcity economy, we've never had one.
Sorry, that's what some sci-fi writers think happens in a post-scarcity economy. Not what some sci-fi writers think happens if communism wins.

babatunde

736 posts

191 months

Tuesday 5th September 2017
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otolith said:
Einion Yrth said:
otolith said:
That's what happens when you have a post-scarcity economy.
We don't know what happens when you have a post-scarcity economy, we've never had one.
Sorry, that's what some sci-fi writers think happens in a post-scarcity economy. Not what some sci-fi writers think happens if communism wins.
Well there is a strong argument that a post-scarcity world isn't a capitalist society, if some entity were to invent a replicator today, it would be surrounded by patents and only the end products would be available to consumers at the highest price they would pay.

jjlynn27

7,935 posts

110 months

Tuesday 5th September 2017
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Boydie88 said:
XslaneyX said:
Jonesy23 said:
Well half of it is Eric so not as many people as you'd think.

I think most people see that thread as the definition of a circle jerk given the lack of opposing voices, which isn't exactly down to everyone agreeing with the content.
Don't venture in there anymore either. It's literally a "who can mock trump the hardest" kind of like all the Hollywood "celebs" do now as it's cool and fits the trendy narrative. You know, the ones who say no wall yet live behind one. People shouldn't be afraid, yet have security detail. The ones who screeched that they would move to Canada if Trump won yet are still living in the states.

Have they moved on from the Trump Russia nonsense to z0mg he's racist! yet? laugh
Funnily enough, virtually no mention of Russia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ih_crCAA3M8&fe...

"Only because, we're on the racism thing, now"
Ah trumpanzees in 'oh noes them lefties invaded my snowflakey safe space' shocker.

So cute!

Totally unrelated link

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/322191073538?chn=ps...

hairyben

8,516 posts

184 months

Tuesday 5th September 2017
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otolith said:
anonymous said:
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That's what happens when you have a post-scarcity economy.
yes

Although post scarcity depictions can look quite "communist" in some ways -many economists are already talking in terms of universal basic income etc- communism/socialism will never get us there as communism only consumes wealth, it doesnt generate it and all communist economies with finite resources consume themselves. communism or something derived of it may work out post scarcity.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

256 months

Wednesday 6th September 2017
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Bacon Is Proof said:
Good job I didn't say that then, isn't it Mike?
But you did, and then rapidly backtracked. I could almost hear the reversing beeper rofl

Bacon Is Proof

5,740 posts

232 months

Wednesday 6th September 2017
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Mr2Mike said:
Bacon Is Proof said:
Good job I didn't say that then, isn't it Mike?
But you did, and then rapidly backtracked. I could almost hear the reversing beeper rofl
Come back when you understand the difference between the words "should" and "must".
Your lack of comprehension does not constitute a change of opinion on my part.smile

dudleybloke

19,845 posts

187 months

Wednesday 6th September 2017
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Cultural Marxism is in full effect.

Colonial

13,553 posts

206 months

Thursday 7th September 2017
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dudleybloke said:
Cultural Marxism is in full effect.
What do you consider Cultural Marxism?

AW111

9,674 posts

134 months

Thursday 7th September 2017
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Colonial said:
dudleybloke said:
Cultural Marxism is in full effect.
What do you consider Cultural Marxism?
He doesn't know, but saw it on a blog and thought it was a nifty phrase to disparage ideas he disapproves of.

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 7th September 2017
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If you decide to exercise your right to free speech, but 10,000 people who disagree with you exercise theirs and you are not heard as a result is that not free speech in action rather than censorship?

grumbledoak

31,544 posts

234 months

Thursday 7th September 2017
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cookie118 said:
If you decide to exercise your right to free speech, but 10,000 people who disagree with you exercise theirs and you are not heard as a result is that not free speech in action rather than censorship?
Relevance?

We are talking about events being cancelled due to the threat of violent protest. a.k.a. no-platforming.