PC censorship vs debate and free speech, worrying trends.
Discussion
JagLover said:
This
Have a look at what is going on in American universities and tell me Universities have free speech.
Someone said earlier that MPs have the freest speech. But this is not for the most part a legal issue. It is about people expressing an opinion, or even basic scientific fact, then a storm of people claiming it is an "ism".
It has cost people their reputations, even their jobs and careers, and it seems to be getting worse every year.
A good article I read said that the "liberal" part of "liberal democracy" had separated from democracy, in that they no longer believed in it. It seems clear to me that those who call themselves "liberals" don't actually believe in liberalism either.
This, to me liberalism is now a more acceptable term for socialism.Have a look at what is going on in American universities and tell me Universities have free speech.
Someone said earlier that MPs have the freest speech. But this is not for the most part a legal issue. It is about people expressing an opinion, or even basic scientific fact, then a storm of people claiming it is an "ism".
It has cost people their reputations, even their jobs and careers, and it seems to be getting worse every year.
A good article I read said that the "liberal" part of "liberal democracy" had separated from democracy, in that they no longer believed in it. It seems clear to me that those who call themselves "liberals" don't actually believe in liberalism either.
Einion Yrth said:
otolith said:
That's what happens when you have a post-scarcity economy.
We don't know what happens when you have a post-scarcity economy, we've never had one.otolith said:
Einion Yrth said:
otolith said:
That's what happens when you have a post-scarcity economy.
We don't know what happens when you have a post-scarcity economy, we've never had one.Boydie88 said:
XslaneyX said:
Jonesy23 said:
Well half of it is Eric so not as many people as you'd think.
I think most people see that thread as the definition of a circle jerk given the lack of opposing voices, which isn't exactly down to everyone agreeing with the content.
Don't venture in there anymore either. It's literally a "who can mock trump the hardest" kind of like all the Hollywood "celebs" do now as it's cool and fits the trendy narrative. You know, the ones who say no wall yet live behind one. People shouldn't be afraid, yet have security detail. The ones who screeched that they would move to Canada if Trump won yet are still living in the states. I think most people see that thread as the definition of a circle jerk given the lack of opposing voices, which isn't exactly down to everyone agreeing with the content.
Have they moved on from the Trump Russia nonsense to z0mg he's racist! yet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ih_crCAA3M8&fe...
"Only because, we're on the racism thing, now"
So cute!
Totally unrelated link
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/322191073538?chn=ps...
otolith said:
anonymous said:
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That's what happens when you have a post-scarcity economy.Although post scarcity depictions can look quite "communist" in some ways -many economists are already talking in terms of universal basic income etc- communism/socialism will never get us there as communism only consumes wealth, it doesnt generate it and all communist economies with finite resources consume themselves. communism or something derived of it may work out post scarcity.
Mr2Mike said:
Bacon Is Proof said:
Good job I didn't say that then, isn't it Mike?
But you did, and then rapidly backtracked. I could almost hear the reversing beeper Your lack of comprehension does not constitute a change of opinion on my part.
cookie118 said:
If you decide to exercise your right to free speech, but 10,000 people who disagree with you exercise theirs and you are not heard as a result is that not free speech in action rather than censorship?
Relevance?We are talking about events being cancelled due to the threat of violent protest. a.k.a. no-platforming.
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