45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. Vol 3

[Eddie Strohacker]

Trexthedinosaur said:

North K accuse Trump has declared war from the recent 'fly by' / show of strength.

From the BBC.

Lucky for us they didn't elect that old warmonger Hilary then eh?

[Eric Mc]

The Korean War never officially ended. Declaring war on the US is a tautology.

[IanH755]

Eric Mc said:

The Korean War never officially ended. Declaring war on the US is a tautology.

It's NK saying the US has declared war, by claiming "Kim-Jong will not last long" whilst flying bombers nearby, not the other way around in this case.

[anonymous-user]

Eric Mc said:

The Korean War never officially ended. Declaring war on the US is a tautology.

The war was N Korea / China (supported by Russia) against the UN, led by the USA; so really it would be a new conflict if it was directly DPRK - USA.

[Eric Mc]

The old war never ended - that's the point I was making. A truce was signed and hostilities ceased but there was never a formal peace agreement or surrender.

[Lucas Ayde]

GCH said:

Yeah great - divide this already very divided country even further.


The man is a piece of s***

It was pretty divisive of a bunch of overpaid sports stars to jump on the virtue signalling bandwagon at their place of work. They're repeatedly hijacking the televised coverage of their jobs to make a political point.

Just for that reason they should be disciplined by their employers. The 'respect for the flag' thing is something I don't personally agree with but Americans seem to take it pretty seriously.

As for a bunch of highly paid black sports stars enjoying a fantastic lifestyle in the richest and most powerful nation on the planet complaining about how hard people of African descent have it in America, well- the irony meter just exploded.

[p1stonhead]

Lucas Ayde said:

GCH said:

Yeah great - divide this already very divided country even further.


The man is a piece of s***

It was pretty divisive of a bunch of overpaid sports stars to jump on the virtue signalling bandwagon at their place of work. They're repeatedly hijacking the televised coverage of their jobs to make a political point.

Just for that reason they should be disciplined by their employers. The 'respect for the flag' thing is something I don't personally agree with but Americans seem to take it pretty seriously.

As for a bunch of highly paid black sports stars enjoying a fantastic lifestyle in the richest and most powerful nation on the planet complaining about how hard people of African descent have it in America, well- the irony meter just exploded.

At their place of work who have all agreed with them.

Trump: Free speech for all! Except when we tell you not because because I’m a wker!

And what possible point are you making at the end? If you are not directly affected by something, you have no right to care about it?

Edited by p1stonhead on Monday 25th September 17:49

[Lucas Ayde]

p1stonhead said:

At their place of work who have all agreed with them.

Trump: Free speech for all! Except when we tell you not because because I’m a wker!

And what possible point are you making at the end? If you are not directly affected by something, you have no right to care about it?

Edited by p1stonhead on Monday 25th September 17:49

You can care as much about something as you like - just don't expect to bring your politics into the workplace.

It's a simple commonsense 'rule' that has been pretty widely understood in society until recently, when SJW types suddenly decided to make everything political.

[p1stonhead]

Lucas Ayde said:

p1stonhead said:

At their place of work who have all agreed with them.

Trump: Free speech for all! Except when we tell you not because because I’m a wker!

And what possible point are you making at the end? If you are not directly affected by something, you have no right to care about it?

Edited by p1stonhead on Monday 25th September 17:49

You can care as much about something as you like - just don't expect to bring your politics into the workplace.

It's a simple commonsense 'rule' that has been pretty widely understood in society until recently, when SJW types suddenly decided to make everything political.

It’s so much of a common sense rule that the whole NFL are disagreeing with Trump?

[rscott]

Lucas Ayde said:

It was pretty divisive of a bunch of overpaid sports stars to jump on the virtue signalling bandwagon at their place of work. They're repeatedly hijacking the televised coverage of their jobs to make a political point.

Just for that reason they should be disciplined by their employers. The 'respect for the flag' thing is something I don't personally agree with but Americans seem to take it pretty seriously.

As for a bunch of highly paid black sports stars enjoying a fantastic lifestyle in the richest and most powerful nation on the planet complaining about how hard people of African descent have it in America, well- the irony meter just exploded.

So those who are lucky enough to have a decent lifestyle aren't supposed to support the less fortunate?

[hairykrishna]

Lucas Ayde said:

It was pretty divisive of a bunch of overpaid sports stars to jump on the virtue signalling bandwagon at their place of work. They're repeatedly hijacking the televised coverage of their jobs to make a political point.

The teams standing for the anthem is a recent thing, as in since about 2009. It came about because the US military has paid millions of dollars for sports teams to put on patriotic displays. It wasn't the sports stars who started hijacking sports coverage to score political points.

[Lucas Ayde]

rscott said:

So those who are lucky enough to have a decent lifestyle aren't supposed to support the less fortunate?

They can support them as much as they want, in their private life outside the workplace.

Or can anyone just come into work and start protesting/advocating their political hobby horses on the factory floor/ office now?

Here's an idea that shouldn't be at all controversial or provoke argument - Maybe they can pledge an ongoing portion of their salaries to programs to help the disadvantaged people that they are professing to care about so much? ha ha. Who am I kidding....

[Lucas Ayde]

hairykrishna said:

The teams standing for the anthem is a recent thing, as in since about 2009. It came about because the US military has paid millions of dollars for sports teams to put on patriotic displays. It wasn't the sports stars who started hijacking sports coverage to score political points.

I also don't agree with the way that US Sports events use the whole national anthem thing in the first place (same as the way that the poppy wearing has permeated British society) but that's not the point here.

[p1stonhead]

Lucas Ayde said:

rscott said:

So those who are lucky enough to have a decent lifestyle aren't supposed to support the less fortunate?

They can support them as much as they want, in their private life outside the workplace.

Or can anyone just come into work and start protesting/advocating their political hobby horses on the factory floor/ office now?

Here's an idea that shouldn't be at all controversial or provoke argument - Maybe they can pledge an ongoing portion of their salaries to programs to help the disadvantaged people that they are professing to care about so much? ha ha. Who am I kidding....

They can if their workplace allows them and agrees with them! What about that can’t you understand?

All of you Trumpets are utterly bizarre in that you think people can’t actually care about stuff. It’s bloody wierd and depressing to be honest that you think everyone is putting on a show for the cameras. Not everyone are fking wkers you know who only care about themselves.

[rscott]

Lucas Ayde said:

rscott said:

So those who are lucky enough to have a decent lifestyle aren't supposed to support the less fortunate?

They can support them as much as they want, in their private life outside the workplace.

Or can anyone just come into work and start protesting/advocating their political hobby horses on the factory floor/ office now?

Here's an idea that shouldn't be at all controversial or provoke argument - Maybe they can pledge an ongoing portion of their salaries to programs to help the disadvantaged people that they are professing to care about so much? ha ha. Who am I kidding....

Or they could just stop carrying out propaganda for the US military and go back to pre 2009 behaviour.

You mean like Colin Kaepernick promising to donate $1 million to various good causes? He's already given away $800k

[Lucas Ayde]

p1stonhead said:

They can if their workplace allows them and agrees with them! What about that can’t you understand?

All of you Trumpets are utterly bizarre in that you think people can’t actually care about stuff. It’s bloody wierd and depressing to be honest that you think everyone is putting on a show for the cameras. Not everyone are fking wkers you know who only care about themselves.

Their employers will ultimately pay the financial price for allowing this stupidity to go on. That's why you don't get your business affiliated with politics.

[p1stonhead]

Lucas Ayde said:

p1stonhead said:

They can if their workplace allows them and agrees with them! What about that can’t you understand?

All of you Trumpets are utterly bizarre in that you think people can’t actually care about stuff. It’s bloody wierd and depressing to be honest that you think everyone is putting on a show for the cameras. Not everyone are fking wkers you know who only care about themselves.

Their employers will ultimately pay the financial price for allowing this stupidity to go on. That's why you don't get your business affiliated with politics.

They really won’t.

Something like 70% of Americans watch football. Way more than support trump.

[rscott]

p1stonhead said:

Lucas Ayde said:

p1stonhead said:

They can if their workplace allows them and agrees with them! What about that can’t you understand?

All of you Trumpets are utterly bizarre in that you think people can’t actually care about stuff. It’s bloody wierd and depressing to be honest that you think everyone is putting on a show for the cameras. Not everyone are fking wkers you know who only care about themselves.

Their employers will ultimately pay the financial price for allowing this stupidity to go on. That's why you don't get your business affiliated with politics.

They really won’t.

Something like 70% of Americans watch football. Way more than support trump.

Then add in the baseball fans - http://www.sfgate.com/athletics/article/A-s-Bruce-...

[hairykrishna]

Lucas Ayde said:

I also don't agree with the way that US Sports events use the whole national anthem thing in the first place (same as the way that the poppy wearing has permeated British society) but that's not the point here.

What's the point here then? You keep banging on about them not holding a political protest in their workplace, while ignoring the fact that their workplace has already been politicised.

[GCH]

Lucas Ayde said:

They can support them as much as they want, in their private life outside the workplace.

So freedom of speech and to protest and dissent - as enshrined in the constitution that trump and his followers reference constantly on multiple matters - but only when we agree with it and give you permission?

Ok...