45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. Vol 3

[Colonial]

Tartan Pixie said:

Mildly incompetent is pretty much the definition of what led to WWI.

Lunatic is pretty much the definition of what led to WW2.

[ScudNorth]

Beati Dogu said:

Frederica Wilson made it an issue.

No, the president did, according to the soldier's family.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/...

[Byker28i]

jmorgan said:

Yipper said:

Niger looks like yet another desperate attempt by leftwing media, who lost the election, to stir the Trump pot. It's getting tiresome.

US Africa Command has already said it was a local intelligence failure. They (wrongly) told the troops it was safe to walk around ISIS country without armoured vehicles or drone / air support. The army still don't know exactly what happened.

Was it on anyones radar until the President made it an issue?

After the donalds constant and repeatedly wrong blame throwing on Benghazi, is there any wonder why his hypocracy is questioned?

Meanwhile his handling and lying over the Niger fallen rumbles on, dragging the rest of his administration into his monumental fk up, which of course is everyone elses fault.

On Tuesday the donald gave Fox News Radio interview saying that he had called nearly all of the families of those killed since he took office."I have called, I believe, everybody — but certainly I’ll use the word virtually everybody".

So that led White house aids to rapidly try to identify every serviceman killed so they could be sure the donald had done just that, or call them now. An email exchange between the White House and Defense Secretary James Mattis' office reportedly shows the White House asking the department for information regarding the families of service members killed after the president's inauguration in January.
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/356504-...

Meanwhile again the White House has had to admit they have no recording and no transcript, no 'proof' as the donald put it, of the call to Johnsons widow.
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/356502-...

Meanwhile after Kellys intervention and attack on Congresswoman Wilson, accusing her of making political capital over an FBI building, video of the speech shows that Wilson did no such thing.
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/356444-...

The donalds Spokeswoman Saunders said: “If you want to go after Gen. Kelly, that’s up to you,but I think that, if you want to get into a debate with a four-star Marine general, I think that that’s something highly inappropriate"
The donald has of course often criticised 4 star generals:

I was never a fan of Colin Powell after his weak understanding of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq = disaster. We can do much better!
4:59 AM - Sep 15, 2016

General John Allen, who I never met but spoke against me last night, failed badly in his fight against ISIS. His record = BAD #NeverHillary
2:53 PM - Jul 29, 2016

How can General Martin Dempsey tell Obama that delaying the Syria bombardment will have no consequences? He is no Patton or MacArthur.
8:41 PM - Sep 3, 2013

We don't have the leadership, including the Generals (who just said the element of surprise does not matter) to attack anyone! Cool it.
1:47 PM - Sep 6, 2013

The Washington Post editorial is calling on Kelly to apologise
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/john-kelly...

[Byker28i]

Beati Dogu said:

Frederica Wilson made it an issue.

Do you just want to make a timeline of when the donald made stuff up and the responses from Wilson and the others from the white house, then reconsider that.
Or are you of the opinion that whatever the donald says is 100% truthful?

[Byker28i]

BUT THOSE EMAILS!

“several” Trump administration officials used their private email accounts for government business in violation of federal record-keeping law.
The lawyers “stated that several White House employees came forward and ‘confessed’ that they failed to forward official records from their personal email accounts to their governmental email accounts within 20 days, as the Presidential Records Act requires,” Cummings wrote. “However, the White House officials refused to identify these employees.”

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/20/trump-aid...

[jmorgan]

Beati Dogu said:

Frederica Wilson made it an issue.

He made it an issue when he started to try to have a pop at Obama (Monday). It went down hill from there, others were involved of course (Wednesday). He is the instigator.

He also called the widow on the way to meet the coffin. Classy.

[Byker28i]

He makes promises glibly then quickly forgets, especially if its about money, until this comes out this week, then it's quickly sent, like the hastily arranged call to Johnsons widow
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/10/19/donald-...

Did he ever pay the $5m to charity on proof of Obamas citizenship?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/...

Edited by Byker28i on Saturday 21st October 10:05

[Eric Mc]

Tartan Pixie said:

Mildly incompetent is pretty much the definition of what led to WWI.

It's not perfect - but on the whole it works best.

[durbster]

Byker28i said:

Did he ever pay the $5m to charity on proof of Obamas citizenship?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/...

I don't think there's evidence of him ever delivering on these charity promises. There are countless examples of him claiming he's done it, and I don't think any evidence of him actually delivering.

His whole life is an illusion. He's almost certainly not as rich as he's always claimed (although he's using the presidency to correct that).

In short, it just goes without saying now that he's a prick.

What we should be focussing on instead, is how somebody so utterly full of st is able to be so successful and influential in America, and how many more Trumps are there out there? It seems like we're heading towards a scenario where the only people in the cockpit are the ones who have lied about being pilots.

[Eddie Strohacker]

This popped up on my Twitter. It comes over like something between cult propaganda & Starship Troopers.

https://www.nratv.com/series/freedoms-safest-place...

[Eric Mc]

Why are you monitoring the NRA's Twitter account?

I would say anything they utter would be fairly predictable.

[Eddie Strohacker]

Eric Mc said:

Why are you monitoring the NRA's Twitter account?

I would say anything they utter would be fairly predictable.

I'm not. And even if I were, it could be for many reasons that would be my business. I take it you don't use Twitter?

[Eric Mc]

Correct.

It seems to be full of utter a***holes - with Trump leading the pack.

[Eddie Strohacker]

Seems very un-Eric language. Nonetheless, it is like most places of that nature, what you make it. For clarity however, it is possible for other people to re-tweet items on to one's timeline. In that case, it was a political commentator, hence it came to my attention. So I shouldn't make assumptions, it's always a risky game.

[Byker28i]

durbster said:

Byker28i said:

Did he ever pay the $5m to charity on proof of Obamas citizenship?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/...

I don't think there's evidence of him ever delivering on these charity promises. There are countless examples of him claiming he's done it, and I don't think any evidence of him actually delivering.

His whole life is an illusion. He's almost certainly not as rich as he's always claimed (although he's using the presidency to correct that).

In short, it just goes without saying now that he's a prick.

What we should be focussing on instead, is how somebody so utterly full of st is able to be so successful and influential in America, and how many more Trumps are there out there? It seems like we're heading towards a scenario where the only people in the cockpit are the ones who have lied about being pilots.

I think following his offer of donating $1m of his own money to the Hurricane Harvey victims, that he actually had to do it this time. Certianly the white house has said:
Here is the full list of organizations in line for Trump's donation:

Reach out America -- $100,000
Red Cross -- $300,000
Salvation Army -- $300,000
Samaritan's Purse -- $100,000
ASPCA -- $25,000
Catholic Charities -- $25,000
Direct Relief -- $25,000
Habitat for Humanity -- $25,000
Houston Humane Society -- $25,000
Operation Blessing -- $25,000
Portlight Inclusive Disaster Strategies -- $25,000
Team Rubicon -- $25,000

I'm assuming they get the money. I'm also assuming it comes from Trumps foundation i.e. from donations to him and not his personal pocket

[Eric Mc]

I stick to PH. It may not be perfect but it seems more "homely" and mannerly compared to the utter bilge and dire diatribes that seem to occur in the more general internet social media areas. The comments section on youtube is another den of utter direness at times.

[Byker28i]

On Tuesday the donald gave Fox News Radio interview saying that he had called nearly all of the families of those killed since he took office."I have called, I believe, everybody — but certainly I’ll use the word virtually everybody".

Not only had the president not contacted virtually all the families of military personnel killed this year, the White House did not even have an up-to-date list of those who had been killed.

There's a flurry of emails between the White House and the Defense secretary’s office occurred about 5 p.m. on Oct. 17. The White House asked the Pentagon for information about surviving family members of all servicemembers killed after Trump’s inauguration so that the president could be sure to contact all of them, which shows that senior White House aides were aware on the day the president made the statement that it was not accurate — but that they should try to make it accurate as soon as possible, given the gathering controversy.

http://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/after-trump-...

So once again, he's the best, the most, the biggest. The thing is, he had contacted some families but this driven obsession with his ratings led to his lying again and being caught out again.

[problemchild1976]

President Trump met the President of the Virgin Islands (that being him) so I think that highlights the political acumen of the man

for a good twittter feed, follow "Emperor Trumpatine" for an evil starwars slant on Trump's tweets

JJ

[rxtx]

Eric Mc said:

I stick to PH. It may not be perfect but it seems more "homely" and mannerly compared to the utter bilge and dire diatribes that seem to occur in the more general internet social media areas. The comments section on youtube is another den of utter direness at times.

Going off topic now but I think you completely misunderstand how Twitter et al work. You can choose what/who you subscribe to, so if you choose to read rubbish then that's entirely up to the person using it. None of it is forced on you, please stop banging on about something you don't understand.

[Eric Mc]

The poster who made the point about the NRA Twitter message seems to be saying that he hadn't read it out of choice. So - it seems choice is not as clear cut as you are maintaining.

I do understand Twitter - that's why I keep away from it. And more and more people seem to be moving away from it as well - so it's not just me.

Any platform preferred by an imbecile like Trump to me is a flawed platform.