45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. Vol 3

[rscott]

Boydie88 said:

rscott said:

Around 45,000 protesting there and that's all you can find? I'd say that's a sign the march went off without major issues. Police announced all of 33 arrests - http://bpdnews.com/news/2017/8/19/nwez3w61jv5rm1ub...

Just to show not all those taking part on it were like those 2 tweets - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/boston-free-sp...

Given there was only a few dozen free speech protesters, videos of 3 of them being abused for doing fk all is pretty telling of some of the counter protesters.

There are also videos pretty easy to find of these counter protesters continuing against the Police when there is literally nothing left to counter protest. It wasn't even a nazi/white supremacy rally. Counter protesters are literally there as anti free speech.

Yep - as most have said on here, there are SOME members of protest groups who go out to protest violently. It's pretty obvious that the vast majority of those in Boston were peaceful though.

[Countdown]

p1stonhead said:

I dont think anyone knows to be honest. But lets face it, Bannon got kicked out due to a Trump tantrum no doubt - I bet it didnt end on good terms.

I think Bannon got kicked out because Kelly and the "Globalists" including Jared and Ivanka realised what a toxic influence he is and used the Charlottesville fallout to push Trump into sacking him, not necessarily because Trump wanted to get rid of him.

p1stonhead said:

Last thing I read was this meaning he was against Trump...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/u...

Call me a cynic but that seems right out of the "Good fascist, Bad fascist" playbook. I think that is Bannon sending a warning shot across Trump's bows via his surrogate i.e. "You do what we agreed otherwise I'll sic the Alt-Right dogs on you...."

[Hilts]

Trump's response when informed that the USS John S McCain had been in a collision with an oil tanker.

"That's too bad"

Classy.

He probably doesn't even know that the ship is named after the Senator's father and grandfather who were Admirals in WWII.

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Boydie88 said:

<snip>Counter protesters are literally there as anti free speech.

Brings up the old question about what is "Free Speech" and what is "hate speech"....

Obviously if I secretly (or openly) support a certain point of view then it's "Free Speech" and if I oppose it it's "Hate speech"...

[roachcoach]

Countdown said:

But didn't Bannon say that he would be going to war FOR Trump?

He may have "kicked" Bannon out but Trump is still the Alt-Right's only hope for influencing Govt policy. And the Alt-Right are Trump's best /only hope of staying in power. Without their unconditional adulation there would be nothing for Trump's ego to feed off and sustain itself. So it's a parasite/host relationship. Both need each other.

Not for trump himself as such, but their view of the presidency that they wanted. I would expect them to attack those who they view as contrary to their agenda. i.e. those factions reported to be vying in the west wing before his departure. I don't think that war is over by a long shot.

So I expect pieces on not trump but the "baddies" influencing in the "wrong" direction.

We'll see.

Edited by roachcoach on Monday 21st August 12:34

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Hilts said:

Trump's response when informed that the USS John S McCain had been in a collision with an oil tanker.

"That's too bad"

Classy.

He probably doesn't even know that the ship is named after the Senator's father and grandfather who were Admirals in WWII.

The USS John Mccain was hit by another ship. Trump doesnt like ships that get hit by other ships. Those sailors are Losers!

[Eddie Strohacker]

Hilts said:

Trump's response when informed that the USS John S McCain had been in a collision with an oil tanker.

"That's too bad"

He's going to be mad as hell when he finds out it was a ship & not that uppity Senator from Arizona.

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roachcoach said:

Not for trump himself as such, but their view of the presidency that they wanted. I would expect them to attack those who the view as contrary to their agenda. i.e. those factions reported to be vying in the west wing before his departure. I don't think that war is over by a long shot.

So I expect pieces on on trump but the "baddies" influencing in the "wrong" direction.

We'll see.

Yep McMaster seems to be their baddie du jour. He's currently getting slated for the Afghan policy and for Trump's crass comments about the ISS John McCain.

Trump has no ideology of his own. So it's fun to see him being pulled between the Right and the Extreme Right.

[roachcoach]

Countdown said:

roachcoach said:

Not for trump himself as such, but their view of the presidency that they wanted. I would expect them to attack those who the view as contrary to their agenda. i.e. those factions reported to be vying in the west wing before his departure. I don't think that war is over by a long shot.

So I expect pieces on on trump but the "baddies" influencing in the "wrong" direction.

We'll see.

Yep McMaster seems to be their baddie du jour. He's currently getting slated for the Afghan policy and for Trump's crass comments about the ISS John McCain.

Trump has no ideology of his own. So it's fun to see him being pulled between the Right and the Extreme Right.

My god all my typos. Sigh.


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Yep, word is the twitter bots are all after McMaster. I wonder how long Kelly has before he is the target.

It's all very interesting and amusing at this stage.

[dandarez]

Has the world ever been so full of nutters? On all sides.

https://twitter.com/OnlineMagazin/status/899585290...

[rscott]

dandarez said:

Has the world ever been so full of nutters? On all sides.

https://twitter.com/OnlineMagazin/status/899585290...

Can't be Trump - hands are too big..

[p1stonhead]

rscott said:

dandarez said:

Has the world ever been so full of nutters? On all sides.

https://twitter.com/OnlineMagazin/status/899585290...

Can't be Trump - hands are too big..

And in what world can someone be offended by a pinata looking like someone?

[Boydie88]

Eddie Strohacker said:

Boydie88 said:

Given there was only a few dozen free speech protesters, videos of 3 of them being abused for doing fk all is pretty telling of some of the counter protesters.
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Nah. It tells you nobody likes a Nazi. Nobody in their right mind at any rate.

One of the videos is a guy in an Israel flag... yeah, massive Nazi.

[rscott]

p1stonhead said:

rscott said:

dandarez said:

Has the world ever been so full of nutters? On all sides.

https://twitter.com/OnlineMagazin/status/899585290...

Can't be Trump - hands are too big..

And in what world can someone be offended by a pinata looking like someone?

Walmart sell a more realistic one - https://www.walmart.com/ip/Mr-President-Donald-Tru... along with an Obama one. https://www.walmart.com/ip/President-Barack-Obama-... .

And this greeting card - https://www.walmart.com/ip/J1952OCB-Jumbo-Funny-Al... ...

[Eddie Strohacker]

Boydie88 said:

One of the videos is a guy in an Israel flag... yeah, massive Nazi.

45,000 protestors, 33 arrests dude. Every bunch of roses...

[Boydie88]

Eddie Strohacker said:

Boydie88 said:

One of the videos is a guy in an Israel flag... yeah, massive Nazi.

45,000 protestors, 33 arrests dude. Every bunch of roses...

Yes, because every trouble maker was arrested.

[Eddie Strohacker]

Boydie88 said:

Yes, because every trouble maker was arrested.

And you know this because you were there or you know this because you're watching dog whistle videos on Twitter proving everyone else but you has it the wrong way round?

[Boydie88]

Eddie Strohacker said:

And you know this because you were there or you know this because you're watching dog whistle videos on Twitter proving everyone else but you has it the wrong way round?

Nope. I know this from actually looking at the footage of the event...

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/898977942965035...

And here's a side one from Dallas... "Cops and Klan go hand in hand" - nice.

https://twitter.com/TristanHallman/status/89909238...

[rscott]

Boydie88 said:

Eddie Strohacker said:

And you know this because you were there or you know this because you're watching dog whistle videos on Twitter proving everyone else but you has it the wrong way round?

Nope. I know this from actually looking at the footage of the event...

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/898977942965035...

And here's a side one from Dallas... "Cops and Klan go hand in hand" - nice.

https://twitter.com/TristanHallman/status/89909238...

CBS tweet shows a 'large crowd' of how many actually engaging with pollce - 20-30 at most. Still a tiny fraction of the total crowd. Show me a single piece of footage of a few hundred breaking the law like that and you might start to convince me that the vast majority of the rally weren't peaceful.

[Eddie Strohacker]

rscott said:

CBS tweet shows a 'large crowd' of how many actually engaging with pollce - 20-30 at most. Still a tiny fraction of the total crowd. Show me a single piece of footage of a few hundred breaking the law like that and you might start to convince me that the vast majority of the rally weren't peaceful.

Was just thinking that. The large crowd is the cops if anything. Still, Boydie doesn't like protestors, I get that. Some of them at least.

Meanwhile, breaking news in the real world: anecdote still not the plural of data.