45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. Vol 3

45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. Vol 3

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BlackFlag

99 posts

78 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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jmorgan said:
BlackFlag said:
Data speeds too slow for a hack, among other things.

https://www.thenation.com/article/a-new-report-rai...

In time, this too will be tied back to the DNC just like nearly everything else involving supposedly nefarious Russians.
Leak, hack, snail mail, here you go Comrade, have some dirt.

Don't know enough about servers to ascertain speed however IF it were the Russians, you don't need to be in Russia. And paying someone for a data stick, that can work.
They cover this point in the article. A domestic hacking attempt could only get to within half of the DL speed recorded in the metadata.

But I digress, the information got out and that is all that mattered.

WitnessProtection

209 posts

209 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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AreOut said:
I've googled for alefantis instagram and it was the first link. Why does it matter anyway? It's clear that some of the top DNC people and those surrounding it are obsessed with very creepy things like torturing and murdering children, "spirit cooking" etc.

It's very unsettling for any person with an ounce of empathy.
It matters when you're claiming to have empathy and find things unsettling, as that site has articles about mass shootings, up to and including the recent Texas church shooting, being false flags. Does your empathy extend to the victims and families of that shooting, and if so, why would you source material from a website that is ignoring their grief to push its conspiracy agenda?

As for spirit cooking, is there any evidence not from conservative conspiracy websites that it's not just performance art? The conspiracy world is full of people finding peadophilia, hidden messages and Luciferian imagery more or less everywhere, but I think speaks more to their own beliefs and religious culture in the US than to any hidden cabal of baby eating Satanists running the planet.

Some of my favourite works of art are chock full of occult symbolism and all kinds of weird imagery - does that make me creepy if I share them on social media?

Byker28i

60,096 posts

218 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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BlackFlag said:
jmorgan said:
BlackFlag said:
Data speeds too slow for a hack, among other things.

https://www.thenation.com/article/a-new-report-rai...

In time, this too will be tied back to the DNC just like nearly everything else involving supposedly nefarious Russians.
Leak, hack, snail mail, here you go Comrade, have some dirt.

Don't know enough about servers to ascertain speed however IF it were the Russians, you don't need to be in Russia. And paying someone for a data stick, that can work.
They cover this point in the article. A domestic hacking attempt could only get to within half of the DL speed recorded in the metadata.

But I digress, the information got out and that is all that mattered.
And this was all debunked by the intelligence agencies after the meeting with the so called expert. Why do you fail to understand this.

What is know is that russian hackers got the emails , passed them to Wikileaks, with full communication with the Trump administration/campaign.
Whats also known is how many times those same people have lied about those meetings and communications.

Byker28i

60,096 posts

218 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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The U.S. Justice Department has gathered enough evidence to charge six members of the Russian government in the hacking of Democratic National Committee computers before the 2016 U.S. presidential election

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russi...

U.S. intelligence agencies have said Russian intelligence agencies were behind those cyber attacks, which resulted in thousands of emails and other documents being made public by WikiLeaks last year. The intelligence community concluded in January that Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered the campaign to sway the election in Trump’s favor.

Byker28i

60,096 posts

218 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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Scherzkeks/Blackflag

Amazing coincidence that Podesta's emails were released on the same day that the audio tape was released wherein Trump brags about sexually harassing women.

Just to remind you that was the one of Trump saying:
I moved on her like a bh, but I couldn't get there, and she was married. Then all of a sudden I see her, she's now got the big phony tits and everything."
"I'm automatically attracted to beautiful women. I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything ... Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything."

Zod

35,295 posts

259 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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Seventy said:
BlackFlag said:
Data speeds too slow for a hack, among other things.

https://www.thenation.com/article/a-new-report-rai...

In time, this too will be tied back to the DNC just like nearly everything else involving supposedly nefarious Russians.
Welcome back Scherzkeks wavey
If so, it will be obvious, once it starts to get irritated.

rscott

14,762 posts

192 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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BlackFlag said:
They cover this point in the article. A domestic hacking attempt could only get to within half of the DL speed recorded in the metadata.

But I digress, the information got out and that is all that mattered.
Question. - what file format stores the transfer times in the metadata? The creation and modification dates might be present, but aren't reliable indicators of the actual transfer time (many transfers use temp files, and the create/update times indicate only when the temp file was renamed/moved, not when the transfer started/ended).
It's stupidly simple to fake these times too.

AreOut

3,658 posts

162 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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_dobbo_ said:
Ah so they threw themselves at trump and let him do it? I didn't know that detail had come out. Oh wait, it hasn't.
listen to the recording again.. "they let you do it"

they wouldn't let you and me because we aren't famous billionaires, but his case is completely different

p1stonhead said:
And there it is.

Trump saying 'when you're famous, they let you do anything' is NOT the same as consent. It means he used his power to assault them.

Actually it probably does mean consent to someone with the same moral code as Trump.
What power he used? That's ridiculous, you make it sound like he grabbed any random girl he stumbled upon.

You don't need written consent to touch someone, have you ever had a girlfriend?

WitnessProtection said:
It matters when you're claiming to have empathy and find things unsettling, as that site has articles about mass shootings, up to and including the recent Texas church shooting, being false flags. Does your empathy extend to the victims and families of that shooting, and if so, why would you source material from a website that is ignoring their grief to push its conspiracy agenda?
I don't care about that site, it just hosts pictures I wanted to show.



Eric Mc

122,053 posts

266 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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[quote=AreOut]

among powerful people very rare are those who hadn't any sexual misdemeanours/quote]

That's a fairly sweeping comment. Have you evidence for that?

_dobbo_

14,384 posts

249 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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AreOut said:
they wouldn't let you and me because we aren't famous billionaires, but his case is completely different
"They let me do it, they wanted it" - Every sexual predator, ever.

p1stonhead

25,566 posts

168 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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AreOut said:
_dobbo_ said:
Ah so they threw themselves at trump and let him do it? I didn't know that detail had come out. Oh wait, it hasn't.
listen to the recording again.. "they let you do it"

they wouldn't let you and me because we aren't famous billionaires, but his case is completely different
AreOut said:
p1stonhead said:
And there it is.

Trump saying 'when you're famous, they let you do anything' is NOT the same as consent. It means he used his power to assault them.

Actually it probably does mean consent to someone with the same moral code as Trump.
What power he used? That's ridiculous, you make it sound like he grabbed any random girl he stumbled upon.

You don't need written consent to touch someone, have you ever had a girlfriend?
And these responses show EXACTLY how scarily naiive you are and also why you come across as creepy to anyone with a normal set of social skills and morals laugh

And I am married so I need written consent and 3 days notice to touch hehe



Edited by p1stonhead on Tuesday 21st November 15:43

Byker28i

60,096 posts

218 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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AreOut said:
listen to the recording again.. "they let you do it"
they wouldn't let you and me because we aren't famous billionaires, but his case is completely different
Again:
Lets not forget that a lawsuit claimed that in 1994, Trump took a 13-year-old girl to a party with Jeffrey Epstein, a billionaire who was a notorious registered sex offender, and raped her that night in what was a "savage sexual attack," according to a lawsuit filed in June 2016 by "Jane Doe." The account was corroborated by a witness in the suit, who claimed to have watched as the child performed various sexual acts on Trump and Epstein even after the two were advised she was a minor.

"Immediately following this rape Defendant Trump threatened me that, were I ever to reveal any of the details of Defendant Trump’s sexual and physical abuse of me, my family and I would be physically harmed if not killed," Jane Doe wrote in the lawsuit, filed in New York.
The lawsuit was dropped in November 2016, just four days before the election, with Jane Doe's attorneys citing "numerous threats" against her.

Ivana Trump claimed he raped her. Michel Cohen, his lawyer said "By the very definition, you can't rape your spouse."

Jill Harth and her claims of attempted rape in Mar-a-Lago and and groped her without her consent on several occasions.

This isn't - "they let you do it" - this is a sexual predator getting away with it, because he had power and money to hire the best lawyers/threaten people

jmorgan

36,010 posts

285 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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Byker28i said:
jmorgan said:
BlackFlag said:
Data speeds too slow for a hack, among other things.

https://www.thenation.com/article/a-new-report-rai...

In time, this too will be tied back to the DNC just like nearly everything else involving supposedly nefarious Russians.
Leak, hack, snail mail, here you go Comrade, have some dirt.

Don't know enough about servers to ascertain speed however IF it were the Russians, you don't need to be in Russia. And paying someone for a data stick, that can work.
Already been debunked by the intelligence agencies after The donald insisted they met 'the expert'.

I'm wondering who this new account is the resurrection of...
Yeah but it will be interesting to see what Mr Flag knows.



Byker28i

60,096 posts

218 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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Carter-Page, that low level volunteer held high-level foreign policy meetings with Hungarian officials before the 2016 presidential election
but Page has testified he cant remember...

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-campaign-advi...

Byker28i

60,096 posts

218 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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Meanwhile Putins stepping up his threats following the sanctions not getting relaxed? The donald wasn't happy after the last meeting, what he going to be like after this one?

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/white-hou...

jmorgan

36,010 posts

285 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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BlackFlag said:
jmorgan said:
BlackFlag said:
Data speeds too slow for a hack, among other things.

https://www.thenation.com/article/a-new-report-rai...

In time, this too will be tied back to the DNC just like nearly everything else involving supposedly nefarious Russians.
Leak, hack, snail mail, here you go Comrade, have some dirt.

Don't know enough about servers to ascertain speed however IF it were the Russians, you don't need to be in Russia. And paying someone for a data stick, that can work.
They cover this point in the article. A domestic hacking attempt could only get to within half of the DL speed recorded in the metadata.

But I digress, the information got out and that is all that mattered.
Yes but you have to dig into it and as mentioned by someone, debunked.


How much experience do you have of hacking? You use the term with authority, I know companies can get faster pipes in the region of many gb/s (even in 2016). I don't know anything and willing to learn what is legally able to be told. Can they piggy back faster networks? Alter metadata? (lauded to in the leaked tools, so the US will not be the only ones able to do it)

I know I can amend my photo metadata. And if I had a server, I expect that in 2016 I would have a fast electrical SFP in (1gb/s min) or a fibre SFP, so wonder what speed can be outputted and from where.

Can they access networks avoiding the ordinary rates, that is get on the fast track.

Just wondering the feasibility of it all and trying to understand the merits of various options.

AreOut

3,658 posts

162 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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Byker28i said:
Again:
Lets not forget that a lawsuit claimed that in 1994, Trump took a 13-year-old girl to a party with Jeffrey Epstein, a billionaire who was a notorious registered sex offender, and raped her that night in what was a "savage sexual attack," according to a lawsuit filed in June 2016 by "Jane Doe." The account was corroborated by a witness in the suit, who claimed to have watched as the child performed various sexual acts on Trump and Epstein even after the two were advised she was a minor.

"Immediately following this rape Defendant Trump threatened me that, were I ever to reveal any of the details of Defendant Trump’s sexual and physical abuse of me, my family and I would be physically harmed if not killed," Jane Doe wrote in the lawsuit, filed in New York.
The lawsuit was dropped in November 2016, just four days before the election, with Jane Doe's attorneys citing "numerous threats" against her.

Ivana Trump claimed he raped her. Michel Cohen, his lawyer said "By the very definition, you can't rape your spouse."

Jill Harth and her claims of attempted rape in Mar-a-Lago and and groped her without her consent on several occasions.

This isn't - "they let you do it" - this is a sexual predator getting away with it, because he had power and money to hire the best lawyers/threaten people
all debunked, very strange that all those women appeared right before elections and disappeared after

the only women who accused him before are Jill Harth and his ex-wife

btw his behaviour is/was bad when it comes to women and I would never recommend him to any of my female friends who'd be interested but let's not blow it out of proportion, he is not a monster as many of you portrait him

Eric Mc

122,053 posts

266 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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AreOut said:
all debunked, very strange that all those women appeared right before elections and disappeared after

the only women who accused him before are Jill Harth and his ex-wife

btw his behaviour is/was bad when it comes to women and I would never recommend him to any of my female friends who'd be interested but let's not blow it out of proportion, he is not a monster as many of you portrait him
Not strange at all. They were sought out by those who wanted to harm Trump. That is a complete no-brainer. It doesn't mean these women don't have valid grievances against him or anybody else who have behaved like him (or worse).

You seem to think a bad deed somehow becomes less bad as it slips back in time. What type of logic is that?.

Byker28i

60,096 posts

218 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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AreOut said:
Byker28i said:
Again:
Lets not forget that a lawsuit claimed that in 1994, Trump took a 13-year-old girl to a party with Jeffrey Epstein, a billionaire who was a notorious registered sex offender, and raped her that night in what was a "savage sexual attack," according to a lawsuit filed in June 2016 by "Jane Doe." The account was corroborated by a witness in the suit, who claimed to have watched as the child performed various sexual acts on Trump and Epstein even after the two were advised she was a minor.

"Immediately following this rape Defendant Trump threatened me that, were I ever to reveal any of the details of Defendant Trump’s sexual and physical abuse of me, my family and I would be physically harmed if not killed," Jane Doe wrote in the lawsuit, filed in New York.
The lawsuit was dropped in November 2016, just four days before the election, with Jane Doe's attorneys citing "numerous threats" against her.

Ivana Trump claimed he raped her. Michel Cohen, his lawyer said "By the very definition, you can't rape your spouse."

Jill Harth and her claims of attempted rape in Mar-a-Lago and and groped her without her consent on several occasions.

This isn't - "they let you do it" - this is a sexual predator getting away with it, because he had power and money to hire the best lawyers/threaten people
all debunked, very strange that all those women appeared right before elections and disappeared after

the only women who accused him before are Jill Harth and his ex-wife

btw his behaviour is/was bad when it comes to women and I would never recommend him to any of my female friends who'd be interested but let's not blow it out of proportion, he is not a monster as many of you portrait him
Nope they weren't debunked, just dropped, at no time have they been debunked as you put it...

BlackFlag

99 posts

78 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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jmorgan said:
BlackFlag said:
jmorgan said:
BlackFlag said:
Data speeds too slow for a hack, among other things.

https://www.thenation.com/article/a-new-report-rai...

In time, this too will be tied back to the DNC just like nearly everything else involving supposedly nefarious Russians.
Leak, hack, snail mail, here you go Comrade, have some dirt.

Don't know enough about servers to ascertain speed however IF it were the Russians, you don't need to be in Russia. And paying someone for a data stick, that can work.
They cover this point in the article. A domestic hacking attempt could only get to within half of the DL speed recorded in the metadata.

But I digress, the information got out and that is all that mattered.
Yes but you have to dig into it and as mentioned by someone, debunked.


How much experience do you have of hacking? You use the term with authority, I know companies can get faster pipes in the region of many gb/s (even in 2016). I don't know anything and willing to learn what is legally able to be told. Can they piggy back faster networks? Alter metadata? (lauded to in the leaked tools, so the US will not be the only ones able to do it)

I know I can amend my photo metadata. And if I had a server, I expect that in 2016 I would have a fast electrical SFP in (1gb/s min) or a fibre SFP, so wonder what speed can be outputted and from where.

Can they access networks avoiding the ordinary rates, that is get on the fast track.

Just wondering the feasibility of it all and trying to understand the merits of various options.
Binney's assessment is disputed. No argument there; but that's political, and linking to the purveyors of Koigate isn't helping anyone.

The mails did their job; they informed the public of widespread corruption. Mook and Podesta were exposed. All positives.
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