45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. Vol 3
Discussion
AreOut said:
he is not a monster as many of you portrait him
The simple fact that he said it is enough for me - he boasted about sexually assaulting women. In the absence of proof that he actually did the things he said, it doesn't make him a monster but it does rather bring into question of whether he is fit to be President.Just as if Theresa May was recorded boasting about forcing herself on men and grabbing them by the cock. "They let you do it".
Yipper said:
Are the bitter leftwingers who lost the election still desperately trying to dig up dirt on Trump!
Are the bitter Trump supporters who won the election (in the Electoral College) still trying to dig up dirt on the losing candidate and other people in her campaign team?Answer: yes. Why? To deflect from the problems with Trump.
Yipper said:
Are the bitter leftwingers who lost the election still desperately trying to dig up dirt on Trump!
Not much digging required. The guy just reeks of the stuff. A small scratch is enough.The question has never been about whether there is dirt on Trump. There are mountains of the stuff. The question has always been, how much is needed to show how unfit a person he is to hold the office of President.
p1stonhead said:
And there it is.
Trump saying 'when you're famous, they let you do anything' is NOT the same as consent. It means he used his power to assault them.
Actually it probably does mean consent to someone with the same moral code as Trump.
It's pretty much the MO of those who have been abusing their position of power for years, and the recent sunlight Zeitgeist is shining light on it.Trump saying 'when you're famous, they let you do anything' is NOT the same as consent. It means he used his power to assault them.
Actually it probably does mean consent to someone with the same moral code as Trump.
Both CNN and Fox News are now reporting that Trump is positively defending Moore. Basic line seems to be (a) he denies the allegations against him, so that’s all that needs to be said on that front; and (b) Trump needs a Republican in that senate seat (presumably the driving force behind what Trump is doing).
There’s speculation that Trump might actually campaign for Moore.
This is so f
ked up it is surreal.
There’s speculation that Trump might actually campaign for Moore.
This is so f
ked up it is surreal. I really didn't follow Moore case but now I see that some accusations are truly ridiculous
"Gloria Thacker Deason[edit]
A fourth woman, Gloria Thacker Deason, in the same The Washington Post report, talks of dating Moore over several months after meeting Moore at the Gadsden Mall when she was 18 and Moore was 32. She claims her dates included bottles of Mateus Rosé wine and tropical cocktails, while the legal drinking age in Alabama at the time was 19. She also states that the dates were approved by her mother, and included kissing, but did not say that Moore forced her into any sort of relationship or sexual contact."
what's exactly his guilt here? She was an adult and she was the one who had to pay attention if it's legal or not to drink alcohol.
"Becky Gray[edit]
Becky Gray said she was 22 and working in the local mall when Moore "started coming up to" her, resulting in her repeatedly rejecting his dating offers. Gray complained to her store manager after becoming disturbed by Moore's advances.[27]"
In other words, men...
"Allegations by other women[edit]
Phyllis Smith, who worked in the local mall, stated that Moore had not approached her personally, but she had seen him talking to other young clerks. She said, "I can remember him walking in and the whole mood would change with us girls ... It would be like we were on guard ... I remember being creeped out." Thus, Smith warned others to "watch out for this guy".["
So now talking with girls other than you is "creepy"? I think "jealousy" is word I'd use here.
"Gloria Thacker Deason[edit]
A fourth woman, Gloria Thacker Deason, in the same The Washington Post report, talks of dating Moore over several months after meeting Moore at the Gadsden Mall when she was 18 and Moore was 32. She claims her dates included bottles of Mateus Rosé wine and tropical cocktails, while the legal drinking age in Alabama at the time was 19. She also states that the dates were approved by her mother, and included kissing, but did not say that Moore forced her into any sort of relationship or sexual contact."
what's exactly his guilt here? She was an adult and she was the one who had to pay attention if it's legal or not to drink alcohol.
"Becky Gray[edit]
Becky Gray said she was 22 and working in the local mall when Moore "started coming up to" her, resulting in her repeatedly rejecting his dating offers. Gray complained to her store manager after becoming disturbed by Moore's advances.[27]"
In other words, men...
"Allegations by other women[edit]
Phyllis Smith, who worked in the local mall, stated that Moore had not approached her personally, but she had seen him talking to other young clerks. She said, "I can remember him walking in and the whole mood would change with us girls ... It would be like we were on guard ... I remember being creeped out." Thus, Smith warned others to "watch out for this guy".["
So now talking with girls other than you is "creepy"? I think "jealousy" is word I'd use here.
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