45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. Vol 3

[anonymous-user]

Halmyre said:

Did the doctor get his qualifications at the same university where Trump got his business degree?

Talking of Universities and Trump...

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/03/31...

Incredible

[sugerbear]

hash tag girthers

6'2 and 17 stone. I dont think so.

Edited by sugerbear on Wednesday 17th January 11:57

[ferrisbueller]

Greg66 said:

Byker28i said:

Jackson said “The answer to your question is that he has incredibly good genes and it’s just the way God made him.”

This doctor was giving Trump a physical and cognitive exam. Since when outside Star Trek did that include a qualitative gene analysis and reliance on a higher being?

He may well be not as gaga as some of his actions could suggest, but it's hard not to be a bit cynical about the results of this exam.

I think references to "god" should be removed from politics. They drop it in all over the place and it's bks.

But that's a new thread.

[Halb]

ferrisbueller said:

I think references to "god" should be removed from politics. They drop it in all over the place and it's bks.

But that's a new thread.

It's an interesting dichotomy, in the US there is legal separation of church and state, one of the few things the founders got right. But there is a virulent underclass of people who have been brainwashed over decades into thinking that christian god is intrinsic to US way of life. In the UK the whole shebang is wrapped up together thanks to a laughably anachronistic system, yet the UK is heading towards a more secular society where more people have seen behind the curtain of religion.

[Vaud]

Halb said:

ferrisbueller said:

I think references to "god" should be removed from politics. They drop it in all over the place and it's bks.

But that's a new thread.

It's an interesting dichotomy, in the US there is legal separation of church and state, one of the few things the founders got right. But there is a virulent underclass of people who have been brainwashed over decades into thinking that christian god is intrinsic to US way of life. In the UK the whole shebang is wrapped up together thanks to a laughably anachronistic system, yet the UK is heading towards a more secular society where more people have seen behind the curtain of religion.

The pledge is at odds:

"I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all"

The original was to be...

"I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all"

[Eddie Strohacker]

The separation of church & state is a wonderfully foresighted piece of thinking on the part of the founding fathers. Nonetheless & irrespective of the views of a handful of 24/7 contributors around here, it is a fact that God is big business in large parts of the states & therefore, if you harbour political ambition, it's a slam dunk. Invoke the the good lord at every opportunity, the faithful will be delighted, and ye godless sinners shalt not give a tuppeny toss but those votes are in the bag & hey, the church & state remain separated & you're just professing your own faith.

Can't lose.

[Eric Mc]

ferrisbueller said:

I think references to "god" should be removed from politics. They drop it in all over the place and it's bks.

But that's a new thread.

That's a very British perspective, to be honest. Other places ARE different.

The UK has a monarch who also happens to be head of an established church - so chuch and governance is inextricably linked in the UK.

The US Constitution does its best to keep religion out of politics.

Which way works best? It's hard to tell.

[Vaud]

Eric Mc said:

That's a very British perspective, to be honest. Other places ARE different.

They are, but the US is a bit hypocritical. Enshrine freedoms in the constitution and then be very selective about their application.

Even for the pledge of allegiance - the number of times kids have been wrongly forced to repeat it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_of_Allegiance...

[kowalski655]

Eric Mc said:

He wasn't tested on use of the English language - which for him, was a lucky break.

Yes he was, asked to name as many words beginning with F

He said;"Free money for the rich, Feeling up women, Fingering pussy, fk Hillary, Freedom for racists, Forgot to pay, and Covfefe"
Well, 6 out of 7 isn't bad for him

[Eric Mc]

Vaud said:

They are, but the US is a bit hypocritical. Enshrine freedoms in the constitution and then be very selective about their application.

Even for the pledge of allegiance - the number of times kids have been wrongly forced to repeat it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_of_Allegiance...

All countries harbour hypocritical aspects of their culture. I'm not going to start waving and wagging fingers at the US on this score. We have plenty of issues here of a similar nature.

[ferrisbueller]

Eric Mc said:

ferrisbueller said:

I think references to "god" should be removed from politics. They drop it in all over the place and it's bks.

But that's a new thread.

That's a very British perspective, to be honest. Other places ARE different.

The UK has a monarch who also happens to be head of an established church - so chuch and governance is inextricably linked in the UK.

The US Constitution does its best to keep religion out of politics.

Which way works best? It's hard to tell.

Not sure it's British per se. I'd do away with religion altogether.

[Byker28i]

V6Pushfit said:

Halmyre said:

Did the doctor get his qualifications at the same university where Trump got his business degree?

Talking of Universities and Trump...

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/03/31...

Incredible

Ah but he claimed he only lost that case as the judge was mexican

[Byker28i]

sugerbear said:

hash tag girthers

6'2 and 17 stone. I dont think so.

Edited by sugerbear on Wednesday 17th January 11:57

Do we call to see his 'girth' certificate

[Eric Mc]

ferrisbueller said:

Not sure it's British per se. I'd do away with religion altogether.

Glad you're not in charge then. A certain Josef Stalin had a go at that. Didn't really work.

[Zod]

Byker28i said:

sugerbear said:

hash tag girthers

6'2 and 17 stone. I dont think so.

Edited by sugerbear on Wednesday 17th January 11:57

Do we call to see his 'girth' certificate

He claims to be 6.3", presumably to be taller than Obama. There are plenty of photos from the inauguration that show that they are the same height (but not girth).

[Halb]

People are free to believe in whatever makes them happy and help them get through this existence (with the usual provisos on not hurting others or inciting others to hurt others), so long as as religion is kept out of politics, education and not given any tax breaks.

[ferrisbueller]

Eric Mc said:

ferrisbueller said:

Not sure it's British per se. I'd do away with religion altogether.

Glad you're not in charge then. A certain Josef Stalin had a go at that. Didn't really work.

As I said, it's a whole new thread. Religion causes far more problems than it ever fixed.

[Byker28i]

Zod said:

Byker28i said:

sugerbear said:

hash tag girthers

6'2 and 17 stone. I dont think so.

Edited by sugerbear on Wednesday 17th January 11:57

Do we call to see his 'girth' certificate

He claims to be 6.3", presumably to be taller than Obama. There are plenty of photos from the inauguration that show that they are the same height (but not girth).

Much like the comment he didn't say sthole (who then later claimed he said sthouse), I've no doubt Tubby Trump weighs 239lbs, just not on earth. Possibly on the moon?

[Eric Mc]

Halb said:

People are free to believe in whatever makes them happy and help them get through this existence (with the usual provisos on not hurting others or inciting others to hurt others), so long as as religion is kept out of politics, education and not given any tax breaks.

So, a religious order or organisation providing essential charitable work would not receive the same tax relief a non-religious charity would?

[ferrisbueller]

Byker28i said:

Much like the comment he didn't say sthole (who then later claimed he said sthouse), I've no doubt Tubby Trump weighs 239lbs, just not on earth. Possibly on the moon?

That's 17 stone, which doesn't seem wrong for a powerfully built company director of which there will be many on PH for comparison. What do you think he weighs?