Cromer in lockdown

[Rovinghawk]

KTF said:

The 'community' would be on their phones within seconds calling up all their friends to assist with this issue. The Police would not know what hit them and there would be an absolute riot and injuries on both sides.

Would you want to be the person who gives the ok for that?

Bring the army to support the police if necessary, shoot anyone brandishing a weapon, explain that their behaviour will be dealt with robustly.

Alternatively, let them run riot because they're too tough for the entire country to deal with.

[Wiccan of Darkness]

That's twice in the space of 5 minutes the phrase 'culturally diverse' has been used.

Seriously. In my laboratory I have some petri dishes, and those have a diverse culture in them, too.

I read this link https://www.nuj.org.uk/news/updated-nuj-race-repor...

I'm speechless. I really am. Journalism should be like justice. Blind to all but the facts. Journalists should, imho, be impartial. That means non unionised. Unions are left leaning, so to have journalists who are unionised would naturally lead to guidelines for journalists being biased towards left leaning policies.

[BlackLabel]

Wonder what the reaction would be if football hooligans or the EDL type folks behave like this lot have? They wouldn't be treated with kid gloves that's for sure and rightly so.

[SlimJim16v]

KTF said:

The 'community' would be on their phones within seconds calling up all their friends to assist with this issue. The Police would not know what hit them and there would be an absolute riot and injuries on both sides.

Would you want to be the person who gives the ok for that?

You can't allow rioting, which is what this is, to carry on with impunity. Send in everything available and should it happen the way you think, it might signal the end of their unaccountability.

[KTF]

Rovinghawk said:

shoot anyone brandishing a weapon

Whilst I am not an expert, I am fairly sure that this would not be allowed either. It hasn't been used in other U.K. based disturbances.

Plus when the injured 'misunderstood ethnic minorities' are carted off to hospital, their friends would follow and it would all kick off there. Then you have at least two riots to deal with.

[catso]

Rovinghawk said:

Alternatively, let them run riot because they're too tough for the entire country to deal with.

Unfortunately this is likely to be what happens. We are very good at enforcing 'compliance' offences on soft targets but anything requiring some backbone seems to be beyond our remit, especially if it might offend a 'minority'.

I despair, I really do...

[DAVEVO9]

mickk said:

So instead of rounding the tts up and throwing their caravans off the cliffs they shut the town down!

I would go much further than that...

Round them all up ( countrywide ) put them in a disused quarry, and pour in a load of steaming silage.

MG42's are an optional extra.

[Rovinghawk]

KTF said:

Rovinghawk said:

shoot anyone brandishing a weapon

Whilst I am not an expert, I am fairly sure that this would not be allowed either. It hasn't been used in other U.K. based disturbances.

Having weapons makes them a legitimate target. Warn if possible, shoot if necessary. One body dropping would probably be sufficient to establish who's boss.

KTF said:

Plus when the injured 'misunderstood ethnic minorities' are carted off to hospital, their friends would follow and it would all kick off there. Then you have at least two riots to deal with.

Two options- deal with them or let them carry on. From your comments I presume you favour the latter?

[Chest Rockwell]

Wiccan of Darkness said:

I read this link https://www.nuj.org.uk/news/updated-nuj-race-repor...

I'm speechless. I really am. Journalism should be like justice. Blind to all but the facts. Journalists should, imho, be impartial. That means non unionised. Unions are left leaning, so to have journalists who are unionised would naturally lead to guidelines for journalists being biased towards left leaning policies.

I'm often surprised at how very few know about the NUJ guidelines as started by Denis MacShane whose real name is Denis Matyjaszek. When I was at the Beeb, a sound engineer bloke I worked with said to me "do you want to know why all news is the same?" He then handed me a NUJ leaflet which listed all the shat you just read.

ALL media outlets and journos all the way down to your local rag follow NUJ guidelines, if they do not then OFCOM will shut them down. The guidelines are nothing but cultural Marxism. It is for that reason that our law enforcement, politicians and general sense of "fair play" is non-existent. The police, politicians and military are scared stiff of the media. Their primary concern is always "what will the media think?".

Have you noticed how hell bent the UK media is on ripping Donald Trump? Well that's because he breaks every single NUJ guideline...can't be having that now, can we eh?

[TTwiggy]

Wiccan of Darkness said:

I'm speechless. I really am. Journalism should be like justice. Blind to all but the facts. Journalists should, imho, be impartial. That means non unionised. Unions are left leaning, so to have journalists who are unionised would naturally lead to guidelines for journalists being biased towards left leaning policies.

Even by the silly standards of 'right signalling' on here that's some ocean-going bks

[TTwiggy]

Chest Rockwell said:

I'm often surprised at how very few know about the NUJ guidelines as started by Denis MacShane whose real name is D enis Matyjaszek. When I was at the Beeb, a sound engineer bloke I worked with said to me "do you want to know why all news is the same?" He then handed me a NUJ leaflet which listed all the shat you just read.

ALL media outlets and journos all the way down to your local rag follow NUJ guidelines, if they do not then OFCOM will shut them down. The guidelines are nothing but cultural Marxism. It is for that reason that our law enforcement, politicians and general sense of "fair play" is non-existent. The police, politicians and military are scared stiff of the media. Their primary concern is always "what will the media think?".

Have you noticed how hell bent the UK media is on ripping Donald Trump? Well that's because he breaks every single NUJ guideline...can't be having that now, can we eh?

Absolute rubbish. Beyond parody.

[KrissKross]

TTwiggy said:

Absolute rubbish. Beyond parody.

I just read what he said and it makes sense to me, what specifically do you think is rubbish?

[Greendubber]

catso said:

Greendubber said:

catso said:

colonel c said:

hornetrider said:

Crikey. Where were the fuzz when all this was going on?

Priorities
http://www.edp24.co.uk/news/crime/speeding-drivers...

So out catching real criminals then.

Read it have you?


The operation starts tomorrow....

Maybe they're getting the donut orders in, in advance....

Or in reality there isn't enough staff to deal with big gangs of marauding s.

[Havoc856-S]

DAVEVO9 said:

I would go much further than that...

Round them all up ( countrywide ) put them in a disused quarry, and pour in a load of steaming silage.

MG42's are an optional extra.

You'll be after an MG3 now... Alas its a lower fire rate than the 42...

[TTwiggy]

KrissKross said:

TTwiggy said:

Absolute rubbish. Beyond parody.

I just read what he said and it makes sense to me, what specifically do you think is rubbish?

I could start with my 20 years of experience as a journalist and the fact that I'm not an NUJ member and I don't know of any colleagues who are. Nobody ever handed me a 'guide' either

[KTF]

Rovinghawk said:

KTF said:

Rovinghawk said:

shoot anyone brandishing a weapon

Whilst I am not an expert, I am fairly sure that this would not be allowed either. It hasn't been used in other U.K. based disturbances.

Having weapons makes them a legitimate target. Warn if possible, shoot if necessary. One body dropping would probably be sufficient to establish who's boss.

KTF said:

Plus when the injured 'misunderstood ethnic minorities' are carted off to hospital, their friends would follow and it would all kick off there. Then you have at least two riots to deal with.

Two options- deal with them or let them carry on. From your comments I presume you favour the latter?

I don't favour them carrying on but there is no simple fix.

Let's assume the police 'win' and have several hundred of them to arrest. Where do they go, the local stations won't be able to cope. And then what, release them on bail (bye bye to them) or maybe lock them up (where and for how long)?

Meanwhile the misunderstood travelling women folk and their 'caught up in the violence' children will need to be looked after (despite what people might think). And so on.

Don't get me wrong, I am all for the nuke them from orbit option but you can also see the can of worms it will open if you poke the hornets nest. You can see why the authorities (unfortunately) given them a wide berth in the hope that they will fk off somewhere else soon enough and be someone else's problem.

[KrissKross]

TTwiggy said:

KrissKross said:

TTwiggy said:

Absolute rubbish. Beyond parody.

I just read what he said and it makes sense to me, what specifically do you think is rubbish?

I could start with my 20 years of experience as a journalist and the fact that I'm not an NUJ member and I don't know of any colleagues who are. Nobody ever handed me a 'guide' eithe.

Ok fair enough, so no journalists at all will follow this guide?

[Chest Rockwell]

KrissKross said:

TTwiggy said:

Absolute rubbish. Beyond parody.

I just read what he said and it makes sense to me, what specifically do you think is rubbish?

Don't worry, he/she/it is just an NUJ steward.

If people think Maggie busted the Unions then think again. The country is controlled by the NUJ. Just as the people of Cromer are finding out right now.

[Wiccan of Darkness]

Chest Rockwell said:

I'm often surprised at how very few know about the NUJ guidelines as started by Denis MacShane whose real name is Denis Matyjaszek. When I was at the Beeb, a sound engineer bloke I worked with said to me "do you want to know why all news is the same?" He then handed me a NUJ leaflet which listed all the shat you just read.

ALL media outlets and journos all the way down to your local rag follow NUJ guidelines, if they do not then OFCOM will shut them down. The guidelines are nothing but cultural Marxism. It is for that reason that our law enforcement, politicians and general sense of "fair play" is non-existent. The police, politicians and military are scared stiff of the media. Their primary concern is always "what will the media think?".

Have you noticed how hell bent the UK media is on ripping Donald Trump? Well that's because he breaks every single NUJ guideline...can't be having that now, can we eh?

That makes a lot of sense, thanks for explaining it. If you were at the beeb then, care to share any other nuggets of information, such as whether a political bias really does exist?

Interesting about the NUJ guidelines, when did they come in to force? Reason I ask is as a student I worked in a local pizza shop. We had the lowdown on pretty much everything that went on in our pokey little town. One Monday night, Woollies got held up and the takings from friday through to monday were nicked. Assailants were armed with automatics, and sprayed bullets everywhere.

Not a sausage in the local rag, not even an acknowledgement on the extra police swarming all over the town.

Thanks for the NUJ link though. I've been perplexed for a long time why my local rag never reports any of the serious stuff that goes on in this quiet, sleepy retirement town. A tree falling down made the front page once, as did a missing cat.

[TTwiggy]

KrissKross said:

Ok fair enough, so no journalists at all will follow this guide?

What guide? There is no guide! Do you think Murdoch's journalists are fervent lefties?