Aung San Suu Kyi/Myanmar/Rohingya

Aung San Suu Kyi/Myanmar/Rohingya

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anonymoususer

5,825 posts

48 months

Monday 1st February 2021
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We need to invade the place.
A bit of aerial bombardment followed by a full invasion

Time we brought proper democracy to these sort of places

BlackLabel

Original Poster:

13,251 posts

123 months

Monday 1st February 2021
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anonymoususer said:
We need to invade the place.
A bit of aerial bombardment followed by a full invasion

Time we brought proper democracy to these sort of places

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2021
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Not-The-Messiah said:
All the new military government need to do now is hold an election with massive new numbers of mail in votes (because of corvid), deny election monitors into the counts. Then just deny and refuse any investigation into potential fraud or miss doings by just saying "where is your evidence?"

And jobs a good one, a ligament government we have, anyone who questions it just call them a conspiracy nut job.
Show us on the doll where the nasty Mr Biden hurt your GEOTUS.

Electro1980

8,299 posts

139 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2021
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anonymoususer said:
We need to invade the place.
A bit of aerial bombardment followed by a full invasion

Time we brought proper democracy to these sort of places
Are you being sarcastic, or do you really think that would work.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2021
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Electro1980 said:
anonymoususer said:
We need to invade the place.
A bit of aerial bombardment followed by a full invasion

Time we brought proper democracy to these sort of places
Are you being sarcastic, or do you really think that would work.
I hate to say it, but it worked with Germany (bombed, invaded, surrendered, occupied, rebuilt) and Japan (bombed, surrendered, occupied, rebuilt), but only by following up the bombing with a huge program of spending to rebuild the economy and change the political culture. Compare and contrast: Iraq and Libya.

stitched

3,813 posts

173 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2021
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alfabadass said:
Didn't take long before the usual PH Alt Right Brexit Basement Crew waltzed in and shat on this issue.
I just paused to thank you for such an informative and insightful post.
I am always awed at the level of information available on these threads.
Cheers.

stitched

3,813 posts

173 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2021
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Stuzza said:
Breadvan72 said:
This is indeed my guide to life.
Pro Bono?
A stty issue with no good side.
I genuinely feel for those involved, which makes it far worse that this comment nearly required an underwear change.

paulguitar

23,455 posts

113 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2021
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Not-The-Messiah said:
All the new military government need to do now is hold an election with massive new numbers of mail in votes (because of corvid), deny election monitors into the counts. Then just deny and refuse any investigation into potential fraud or miss doings by just saying "where is your evidence?"

And jobs a good one, a ligament government we have, anyone who questions it just call them a conspiracy nut job.
Miss your work in the various and many threads from which you are banned, NTM. rofl

Fundoreen

4,180 posts

83 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2021
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Something happens somewhere you dont have to care about. My only interest in the region is watching rambo 2008.

WCZ

10,531 posts

194 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2021
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to what extent should we bomb them do you think? should they be warned so people can get out or would it be more effective if they were killed

anonymoususer

5,825 posts

48 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2021
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WCZ said:
to what extent should we bomb them do you think? should they be warned so people can get out or would it be more effective if they were killed
Obviously military targets. The people are predominantly not our enemy well a few are but most are not so we dont want to go after them
Then we help them rebuild and show them how democracy works with inspirational teachings.
Once they learn the ins and outs of consensus politics. The middle ground in politics and even how to make a coalition government work they will be inspired.

BlackLabel

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13,251 posts

123 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2021
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The Americans and others will eventually come round and work with the Myanmar military government, at least to a certain degree. Just like the Obama administration did. Demonize and isolate them too much and you’ll just push Myanmar further into the hands of the Chinese.

VR99

1,265 posts

63 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2021
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Ultimately the people of Burma/Myanmar will suffer but I don't think there is much anyone can do about the situation. China will not allow or at least make a huge fuss if any Western nations were to attempt any kind of military intervention, it just won't happen.

It's interesting to see the contrasting reactions from the Western counties; condemnation and threats of sanctions and that of Burma's neighbours such as China, Cambodia, Thailand; it's an 'internal matter' so nothing more to add.
Aung san suu kyi lost a lot of respect in the West with the treatment of Rohingya and her public support for the military at the time, but I suspect that she had no choice as the military were still (and let's be honest, have always been) in control in the background.
As a more general point, if you are in a minority ethnic group in a country where the majority practice Theravada Buddhism, then history would suggest that minority rights won't be respected and any 'protest' by minorities directed at the said majority will likely result in a brutal response including annihilation.History does not lie.

Edited by VR99 on Tuesday 2nd February 14:17

BlackLabel

Original Poster:

13,251 posts

123 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2021
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Western countries don’t seem to mind when it’s a democratic leader they don’t like who is kicked out of power by the Army. We’re quite happy to work with Egypt’s Sisi despite his coup against the Morsi government. We also supported the coup against Evo Morales in Bolivia.

Countdown

39,915 posts

196 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2021
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BlackLabel said:
Western countries don’t seem to mind when it’s a democratic leader they don’t like who is kicked out of power by the Army. We’re quite happy to work with Egypt’s Sisi despite his coup against the Morsi government. We also supported the coup against Evo Morales in Bolivia.
Yes but fortunately the indigenous population don't notice and, if they do, they rarely bear grudges about being tortured, imprisoned, or executed.....

Not-The-Messiah

3,620 posts

81 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2021
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paulguitar said:
Not-The-Messiah said:
All the new military government need to do now is hold an election with massive new numbers of mail in votes (because of corvid), deny election monitors into the counts. Then just deny and refuse any investigation into potential fraud or miss doings by just saying "where is your evidence?"

And jobs a good one, a ligament government we have, anyone who questions it just call them a conspiracy nut job.
Miss your work in the various and many threads from which you are banned, NTM. rofl
I'm not band from any far as I'm aware, I did get a 7 day ban for apparently trolling funnily from a topic about online censorship where I made the point that T&Cs are vague nonsense on many sites that are just used to block people.
I wasn't trolling anyone I was just disagreeing with people but apparently that's now Trolling. I thought Trolling was trying to intentionally antagonising people that's what you are doing with your reply.

thehop

183 posts

45 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2021
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VR99 said:
Ultimately the people of Burma/Myanmar will suffer but I don't think there is much anyone can do about the situation. China will not allow or at least make a huge fuss if any Western nations were to attempt any kind of military intervention, it just won't happen.

It's interesting to see the contrasting reactions from the Western counties; condemnation and threats of sanctions and that of Burma's neighbours such as China, Cambodia, Thailand; it's an 'internal matter' so nothing more to add.
Aung san suu kyi lost a lot of respect in the West with the treatment of Rohingya and her public support for the military at the time, but I suspect that she had no choice as the military were still (and let's be honest, have always been) in control in the background.
As a more general point, if you are in a minority ethnic group in a country where the majority practice Theravada Buddhism, then history would suggest that minority rights won't be respected and any 'protest' by minorities directed at the said majority will likely result in a brutal response including annihilation.History does not lie.

Edited by VR99 on Tuesday 2nd February 14:17
My wife is Thai, plus two children at Uni in Bangkok. The average Thai does not even know the military has taken over in Myanmar. They could also care less what with the ongoing situation n Thailand itself.

paulguitar

23,455 posts

113 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2021
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Not-The-Messiah said:
I thought Trolling was trying to intentionally antagonising people that's what you are doing with your reply.
No, I mean it, I actually do miss your posts, and that last one here was a NTM classic.



Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

279 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2021
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Aung San Suu Kyi locked up will be an embarrassment for the military regime. If they free her she will also be an embarrassment. I predict an outbreak of COVID in the jail where she is held.

rodericb

6,758 posts

126 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2021
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Ayahuasca said:
Aung San Suu Kyi locked up will be an embarrassment for the military regime. If they free her she will also be an embarrassment. I predict an outbreak of COVID in the jail where she is held.
Going by history I don't think the military will be too embarrassed that she's in the clink....

Unless someone unleashes a withering twitter storm and some disparaging stories on CNN et al.


Edited by rodericb on Wednesday 3rd February 11:10