Irma. The biggest ever Atlantic hurricane......

Irma. The biggest ever Atlantic hurricane......

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The Mad Monk

10,474 posts

118 months

Tuesday 12th September 2017
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I think he has got a point.

If we (they) are going to give names to hurricane/storms in an alphabetical order, it makes sense not to give a storm a name which to some/many/most people sounds as though it begins with 'H', when we have just had H - Harry.

fatboy18

18,951 posts

212 months

Tuesday 12th September 2017
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The Mad Monk said:
I think he has got a point.

If we (they) are going to give names to hurricane/storms in an alphabetical order, it makes sense not to give a storm a name which to some/many/most people sounds as though it begins with 'H', when we have just had H - Harry.
They could have called it Higgins

Vaud

50,583 posts

156 months

Tuesday 12th September 2017
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Reminds me of the Spanish fireman who had two children...

Hose-A
and
Hose-B

Pan Pan Pan

9,919 posts

112 months

Tuesday 12th September 2017
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The French use their own name/pronunciation for different countries/places, they say Paree, we say Paris., We say London, they say Londres, best just to use whatever name seems to fit the situation the best.
Of course we are just as guilty of doing this for our selves, when places such as Althorpe are pronounced Althrop, and let us not forget that the use of the letter T is in serious decline in the UK, with words like community being pronounced as communiee or Mike Brewers famous use of the word F in place of TH. `The bloke wanted four grand for the moter (yes, I know it is spelled wrongly) but I got it for Free! smile or another of his favourites, Enfusiast

Vaud

50,583 posts

156 months

Tuesday 12th September 2017
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You would pronounce Pierre, Jose, Paul, as it woudl commonly be used. There will always be some localizations as well (Jesus, etc)

Geoffroy caught me out the other day. Not Geoffrey (pronounced Jeffrey), but Geoffroy, pronounced Jeo-fwa (roughly).

Roofless Toothless

5,672 posts

133 months

Tuesday 12th September 2017
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Quinoa

tim0409

4,435 posts

160 months

Tuesday 12th September 2017
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The Mad Monk said:
Well, we don't say Paree? We say Paris.

Why give a word a foreign pronunciation?
I agree that this is annoying; when it was all kicking off in Bahrain the BBC etc were pronouncing it as Ba-HA-rain, which I'm sure is how the locals pronounce it but it just seemed like an affectation. There is a British football reporter (radio) based in Brazil who is nightmare for this; he sounds like he has half a pint of phlegm in his throat when he pronounces foreign players names.

Shakermaker

11,317 posts

101 months

Tuesday 12th September 2017
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Pan Pan Pan said:
Of course we are just as guilty of doing this for our selves, when places such as Althorpe are pronounced Althrop,
Laziness on the part of our ancestors, passed down through the generations? Al-Thorpe is correct, but declining quality of spoken language became more prevalent, surely?

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 12th September 2017
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Ayahuasca said:
I wonder how much tax the island residents pay to the UK HMRC, you know, to contribute a bit towards things like C130s and so on?

Oh, that's right. None.
Well that's a new low for PH. The vast majority of these British Citizens are poor and earn minimum wage on a good day, they wouldn't pay any tax at all if they lived in the UK but they do in fact pay payroll taxes in BVI (10%). So whilst it's fair to say they don't pay taxes to the UK, net, neither do many regions in the UK. I'm very pleased to know you think humanitarian aid should be dependent on tax paid to HMRC though, I recon HMG should send me a lear jet if I'm ever in trouble.

Ayahuasca said:
I wonder how many UK residents have the right to rock up on to one of the islands and live there?

Oh, that's right. None.
Ridiculous comment. There are tens of thousands of British expats in the Caribbean.

Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

280 months

Tuesday 12th September 2017
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fblm said:
Ayahuasca said:
I wonder how much tax the island residents pay to the UK HMRC, you know, to contribute a bit towards things like C130s and so on?

Oh, that's right. None.
Well that's a new low for PH. The vast majority of these British Citizens are poor and earn minimum wage on a good day, they wouldn't pay any tax at all if they lived in the UK but they do in fact pay payroll taxes in BVI (10%). So whilst it's fair to say they don't pay taxes to the UK, net, neither do many regions in the UK. I'm very pleased to know you think humanitarian aid should be dependent on tax paid to HMRC though, I recon HMG should send me a lear jet if I'm ever in trouble.

Ayahuasca said:
I wonder how many UK residents have the right to rock up on to one of the islands and live there?

Oh, that's right. None.
Ridiculous comment. There are tens of thousands of British expats in the Caribbean.
You misread my comment. Yes you can apply for a visa / work permit, whatever, but how many Brits have the RIGHT to live there? Brits have more right to free movement in Europe for now than in any of the Caribbean.

My point is that these island are not 'little bits of Britain'. Yes the UK should send aid if it can afford to, but it should not be seen as an obligation.

Vaud

50,583 posts

156 months

Tuesday 12th September 2017
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fblm said:
Ayahuasca said:
I wonder how many UK residents have the right to rock up on to one of the islands and live there?

Oh, that's right. None.
Ridiculous comment. There are tens of thousands of British expats in the Caribbean.
They don't have the right to move and live there.

They have the right to apply.

You can visit for up to 6 months providing you can support yourself but must show proof that you will leave (return flight),.

You need a job before you go. You need a work permit (up to 5 years initially?). Almost no chance of becoming a resident.

So you might become an expat if you are financially independent or can get a job before you move there. But no inherent right to rock up to the BVIs.

GCH

3,992 posts

203 months

Tuesday 12th September 2017
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Roofless Toothless said:
Quinoa
Don't
hehe



anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 12th September 2017
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Ayahuasca said:
My point is that these island are not 'little bits of Britain'.
Tell that to the Falklands and Gibraltar, they are all British Overseas Territory. I agree though that the UK should only do what it can afford to. Fortunately we have a 10bn overseas aid budget so clearly we can afford it! wink

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 12th September 2017
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Vaud said:
They don't have the right to move and live there.

They have the right to apply.

You can visit for up to 6 months providing you can support yourself but must show proof that you will leave (return flight),.

You need a job before you go. You need a work permit (up to 5 years initially?). Almost no chance of becoming a resident.

So you might become an expat if you are financially independent or can get a job before you move there. But no inherent right to rock up to the BVIs.
Point taken.

Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

280 months

Tuesday 12th September 2017
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GCH said:
Roofless Toothless said:
Quinoa
Don't
hehe
Go on then, how do you pronounce it?

TTmonkey

Original Poster:

20,911 posts

248 months

Tuesday 12th September 2017
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Lucas CAV said:
The Mad Monk said:
TTmonkey said:
Hurricane Jose also looks like it will take a very similar track.
Why are so many people pronouncing Jose as Hoseh?
As that's the way it's pronounced?
The Spanish prounounciation is used as Spanish is now the predominant language of the USA is it not?


I wonder, do American Spanish speakers murder the Spanish language in a similar fashion as American English speakers....?

Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

280 months

Tuesday 12th September 2017
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TTmonkey said:
Lucas CAV said:
The Mad Monk said:
TTmonkey said:
Hurricane Jose also looks like it will take a very similar track.
Why are so many people pronouncing Jose as Hoseh?
As that's the way it's pronounced?
The Spanish prounounciation is used as Spanish is now the predominant language of the USA is it not?


I wonder, do American Spanish speakers murder the Spanish language in a similar fashion as American English speakers....?
Worse, much worse.

MitchT

15,877 posts

210 months

Tuesday 12th September 2017
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Short piece from Jost Van Dyke on BBC News at 10 this evening. Interviewed a couple of people - one of them a chap whose bar had been completely flattened. He seemed quite upbeat, said he had no money but he would "use this" [pointing to his head] to fix things. The other was Justine from Foxy's Tamarind Bar which has been quite active on Facebook providing updates, was battered but mostly intact and is now back up and running serving locals who need meals. Just a microcosm of course, but interesting to see the spirit of the people there.

Cold

15,249 posts

91 months

Wednesday 13th September 2017
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MitchT said:
Short piece from Jost Van Dyke on BBC News at 10 this evening.
Ah yes, Hosch Farn Mitch. Nice bloke.

Roofless Toothless

5,672 posts

133 months

Wednesday 13th September 2017
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Ayahuasca said:
GCH said:
Roofless Toothless said:
Quinoa
Don't
hehe
Go on then, how do you pronounce it?
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