Irma. The biggest ever Atlantic hurricane......

[Gandahar]

FourWheelDrift said:

Puggit said:

Jose's lost again

Trump should have built a wall, a great big wall to keep the Mexican out.

Or a big water slide to aim it at Canada

The track of Jose is quite fun, the ensemble prediction models are all over the place

https://icons.wunderground.com/data/images/at20171...

[Ricepilot]

https://livestormchasing.com/map

Zoom right into Puerto Rico and a guy called Brandon Clements is streaming.

Its pretty insane conditions there at the moment.

[Puggit]

Mesmerising video of the eye of Irma: https://twitter.com/NOAASatellites/status/90516626...

[Puggit]

60% chance of the remains of Lee reforming - and highly likely to hit the same part of the Caribbean if it does.

[Ricepilot]

On the link I posted above the eye is just about on top of them and things have significantly ramped up in the past 20 mins or so.

[Puggit]

Ricepilot said:

On the link I posted above the eye is just about on top of them and things have significantly ramped up in the past 20 mins or so.

There is no eye - it fell apart when the hurricane made landfall on PR. See this tweet for video: https://twitter.com/NOAASatellites/status/91050190...

It will probably reform when storm crosses onto the ocean again.

[Vaud]

Have everything crossed for two friends who live on PR...

[Puggit]

PR won't see the next hurricane coming, this is what's left of their doppler radar

[Puggit]

Naughty Maria...

[Vaud]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/sep/26/tr...

I really don't like Trump's addiction to policy by tweet, let alone the content.

[Pan Pan Pan]

Puggit said:

Naughty Maria...

To quote Mike Myers, It looks like a great big ....................

[Puggit]

New Orleans next in the firing line... Step up, Nate:

[Vaud]

Vaud said:

Have everything crossed for two friends who live on PR...

Well, they survived and have escaped PR for now to Florida.

Apparently the island is, to use his words, "fked".

90% without power
60% no comms
50% no water

Scant medicines, baby formula, etc. Going to take years.

[anonymous-user]

Vaud said:

Vaud said:

Have everything crossed for two friends who live on PR...

Well, they survived and have escaped PR for now to Florida.

Apparently the island is, to use his words, "fked".

90% without power
60% no comms
50% no water

Scant medicines, baby formula, etc. Going to take years.

Pretty stupid of the Mayor of SJ to publicly attack the man-child in the White House. Probably going to cost them another 3 months without power.

[Vaud]

fblm said:

Pretty stupid of the Mayor of SJ to publicly attack the man-child in the White House. Probably going to cost them another 3 months without power.

He was never going to do anything but grandstand anyway. He doesn't care about PR.

[anonymous-user]

Vaud said:

He was never going to do anything but grandstand anyway. He doesn't care about PR.

That's fair, I'm just not convinced, given what we know about his fragile ego and vindictiveness that criticising him publicly was a smart move. I suspect, given that his base don't care about PR either, quite the opposite, that she has sealed their fate.

[Vaud]

fblm said:

That's fair, I'm just not convinced, given what we know about his fragile ego and vindictiveness that criticising him publicly was a smart move. I suspect, given that his base don't care about PR either, quite the opposite, that she has sealed their fate.

Possible. Desperate people do desperate things.

Remember (from wiki), like D.C. residents, the citizens of Puerto Rico and the other island territories pay the same rate of taxes to the federal government as their counterparts in the 50 states and are subject to military conscription, but do not have any representation in the Senate and only one non-voting delegate each in the House.

No wonder they feel short changed. Until recently he even blocked foreign owned aid ships from docking. "I'm not going to help you but no-one else can either"

It's the ethics of playground bully.

[anonymous-user]

Vaud said:

Remember (from wiki), like D.C. residents, the citizens of Puerto Rico and the other island territories pay the same rate of taxes to the federal government as their counterparts in the 50 states...

They don't, wiki is wrong if it says that. They (PR residents) pay the same (minimal) federal taxes like social security and Medicare, which they are entitled to the benefits from but they do not pay the big ones; Income tax or dividend tax and possibly cgt I don't recall. Of course it shouldn't actually matter in a humanitarian disaster. My point was simply that antagonising Trump is likely to prove counterproductive because he is not apparently bound by constraints like being a decent human being.

[randlemarcus]

Vaud said:

Until recently he even blocked foreign owned aid ships from docking. "I'm not going to help you but no-one else can either"

It's the ethics of playground bully.

Simply not true. 1930s (?) legislation prohibiting non-US registered shipping from hopping from one US port to another. Anyone can go to PR, they just cannot then go to another US port. Trump suspended it for a bit.

[Vaud]

randlemarcus said:

Vaud said:

Until recently he even blocked foreign owned aid ships from docking. "I'm not going to help you but no-one else can either"

It's the ethics of playground bully.

Simply not true. 1930s (?) legislation prohibiting non-US registered shipping from hopping from one US port to another. Anyone can go to PR, they just cannot then go to another US port. Trump suspended it for a bit.

It’s not non US registered, it’s “The Jones Act requires goods sent between US ports to be carried on ships built, owned and operated by the US.”

Which rules out most aid ships.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/28/dona...