Irma. The biggest ever Atlantic hurricane......
Discussion
Laurel Green said:
Jesus. Like post-tsunami Japan.Dazed and Confused said:
Laurel Green said:
Jesus. Like post-tsunami Japan.I'm not convinced everyone is taking Irma seriously, the two nuke plants in it's path have no plans to even shut down while it passes.
http://www.nukepro.net/2017/09/irma-targets-2-nucl...
i mean, what could go wrong?
http://www.nukepro.net/2017/09/irma-targets-2-nucl...
i mean, what could go wrong?
Sad to see such devastation. I've never been to that part of the world though the iconic plane beach at St Martin is on my bucket list. For some time I've occasionally been dipping into the YouTube live cam feed of the Soggy Dollar Bar on Jost Van Dyke island - always a nice thing to have on in the background when you're stuck in the grey UK. I was rooting for the bar and its staff but the live feed went off at about 7pm yesterday and the feed is now just some pre-recorded footage as the storm approached. Ivan's Stress Free Bar a few hundred metres along the same beach looks like this today ...
Mercifully there does appear to have been updates saying all the bars' people are OK, though the buildings haven't fared so well.
Mercifully there does appear to have been updates saying all the bars' people are OK, though the buildings haven't fared so well.
Sheepshanks said:
How does it being 50 miles inland make it absolutely fine?
You're right, I should have said 'probably'. 50 Miles inland means it's not going to suffer from storm surge and the chance of the eye passing directly over Orlando is relatively low, for now. All the devastation you see is from storm surge and a direct hit of the eye (Barbuda has been completely destroyed but Antigua which is just 20 miles South is relatively unscathed). Remember the predicted path is the central projection, but the probability of it staying on the path is low (the path has shifted 70 odd miles west in the last 24 hours). It's already weakening and will probably hit the Keys at 130mph from there it's got to get 300 miles overland up to Orlando and will weaken all the way. Perhaps some wishful thinking on my part as unfortunately I'm going there just after. fblm said:
You're right, I should have said 'probably'. 50 Miles inland means it's not going to suffer from storm surge and the chance of the eye passing directly over Orlando is relatively low, for now. All the devastation you see is from storm surge and a direct hit of the eye (Barbuda has been completely destroyed but Antigua which is just 20 miles South is relatively unscathed). Remember the predicted path is the central projection, but the probability of it staying on the path is low (the path has shifted 70 odd miles west in the last 24 hours). It's already weakening and will probably hit the Keys at 130mph from there it's got to get 300 miles overland up to Orlando and will weaken all the way. Perhaps some wishful thinking on my part as unfortunately I'm going there just after.
I hope you're right - we fly out on the 24th.Reports I've seen say it has weakened but will likely strengthen as it gets a clear run over the warm water up to Florida.
Globs said:
I'm not convinced everyone is taking Irma seriously, the two nuke plants in it's path have no plans to even shut down while it passes.
http://www.nukepro.net/2017/09/irma-targets-2-nucl...
i mean, what could go wrong?
It seems your concerns have been noted. http://www.nukepro.net/2017/09/irma-targets-2-nucl...
i mean, what could go wrong?
Reuters - Turkey Point and St. Lucie plants to be shut down ahead of Irna
PlayFair said:
Im flying to Orlando on 23/09 for 2 weeks in Disney.
Seeing as that is quite a way in land, i assume its not, but is it likely to effect it?
I know it's selfish to think of such things at a time like this, but we're heading there for 3 weeks on the 21st, I just hope it's calmed down by then, more for my son's sake, he's 4yrs old, and he'd be devastated if we couldn't go, he wouldn't be able to comprehend why.Seeing as that is quite a way in land, i assume its not, but is it likely to effect it?
skinnyman said:
PlayFair said:
Im flying to Orlando on 23/09 for 2 weeks in Disney.
Seeing as that is quite a way in land, i assume its not, but is it likely to effect it?
I know it's selfish to think of such things at a time like this, but we're heading there for 3 weeks on the 21st, I just hope it's calmed down by then, more for my son's sake, he's 4yrs old, and he'd be devastated if we couldn't go, he wouldn't be able to comprehend why.Seeing as that is quite a way in land, i assume its not, but is it likely to effect it?
I was in Orlando but managed to get an early flight back. MCO is shutting Saturday afternoon. People are saying stay put because they are comparing it to hurricane Andrew despite all the warnings. My take on it is the coastal and keys areas were a specific issue. That and low lying land. It would be hard to effect rescues when they do start to happen. The issue is you can't realistically evacuate a whole state north. Where do they all go and how do they get there?
We evacuated late last night (left at 9:30pm) from Marco - for a period of time, we were predicted a pretty much direct hit. Selfishly, fortunately, the path has moved further East which in some ways is a relief - we will likely only experience cat1/2 winds which aren't such a big deal (one of the properties is built to withstand 125+mph and the other 145+mph from memory), however the storm surge of 5-10ft (above ground level) is the concern.
The building code defines how high above sea level a property has to be built, however that storm surge height, as I understand it, is before waves are added on top. One home is on the water, the other is 500, maybe 750ft inland.
A lot of people we know decided to stay. My wife was uncertain so we took the decision to leave. Fingers crossed all the time, effort and expense to evacuate will be a waste.
There are anti-gouging laws here...for which I'm very grateful. Last night we got the 2nd last hotel room available in all of Northern Florida and paid $85. I would have paid much more than that if I had to.
We do have a bit of an issue in that we are going to be homeless on Monday - there is nothing with availability in this area (pan handle of Florida).
Now it's just a waiting game. Nothing more we can do now...
The building code defines how high above sea level a property has to be built, however that storm surge height, as I understand it, is before waves are added on top. One home is on the water, the other is 500, maybe 750ft inland.
A lot of people we know decided to stay. My wife was uncertain so we took the decision to leave. Fingers crossed all the time, effort and expense to evacuate will be a waste.
There are anti-gouging laws here...for which I'm very grateful. Last night we got the 2nd last hotel room available in all of Northern Florida and paid $85. I would have paid much more than that if I had to.
We do have a bit of an issue in that we are going to be homeless on Monday - there is nothing with availability in this area (pan handle of Florida).
Now it's just a waiting game. Nothing more we can do now...
Sgt Bilko said:
I was in Orlando but managed to get an early flight back. MCO is shutting Saturday afternoon. People are saying stay put because they are comparing it to hurricane Andrew despite all the warnings. My take on it is the coastal and keys areas were a specific issue. That and low lying land. It would be hard to effect rescues when they do start to happen. The issue is you can't realistically evacuate a whole state north. Where do they all go and how do they get there?
The issue is the whole of Southern Florida is low lying land.
Good job getting a flight out of Orlando!
The Moose said:
Sgt Bilko said:
I was in Orlando but managed to get an early flight back. MCO is shutting Saturday afternoon. People are saying stay put because they are comparing it to hurricane Andrew despite all the warnings. My take on it is the coastal and keys areas were a specific issue. That and low lying land. It would be hard to effect rescues when they do start to happen. The issue is you can't realistically evacuate a whole state north. Where do they all go and how do they get there?
The issue is the whole of Southern Florida is low lying land.Good job getting a flight out of Orlando!
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