London Underground Incident

[anonymous-user]

After the London bridges attacks resulted in big pavement barriers being put up to stop the fkheads ploughing cars along the pavements, I remember saying to my daughters that the next target will be the tube (though I suspected 2-3 of them armed with knives ploughing through a carriage between stations).

There's nowhere to run on a tube train between stations. They have a literally captive audience, tightly packed. A bomb successfully detonated between stations would be devastating. And that's got to be what's coming.

[S11Steve]

This can't possibly be another terror attack.

I changed my Facebook profile picture last time, and even used #PrayForLondon multiple times. Surely that made a difference...?

[hairyben]

Flipped on LBC for a few mins, the prize vag james o'brien is already weaponising this to attack right wingers. That man is sick in the head.

[Greendubber]

SantaBarbara said:

Greendubber said:

I'd imagine so, they will be very careful what the release to the media though for obvious reasons.

The BBC had too much coverage in the first hours in my opinion

Always the way sadly

[Oakey]

Greg66 said:

After the London bridges attacks resulted in big pavement barriers being put up to stop the fkheads ploughing cars along the pavements, I remember saying to my daughters that the next target will be the tube (though I suspected 2-3 of them armed with knives ploughing through a carriage between stations).

There's nowhere to run on a tube train between stations. They have a literally captive audience, tightly packed. A bomb successfully detonated between stations would be devastating. And that's got to be what's coming.

Like in 2005?

[Galsia]

S11Steve said:

This can't possibly be another terror attack.

I changed my Facebook profile picture last time, and even used #PrayForLondon multiple times. Surely that made a difference...?

It only makes a difference if you state that this has nothing to do with religion. Religion of peace yada yada Better luck next time.

[S11Steve]

Galsia said:

It only makes a difference if you state that this has nothing to do with religion. Religion of peace yada yada Better luck next time.

Are you making assumptions about the potential perpetrator? Racialist!

[Ridgemont]

SantaBarbara said:

Greendubber said:

I'd imagine so, they will be very careful what the release to the media though for obvious reasons.

The BBC had too much coverage in the first hours in my opinion

Well the message hasn't got through to the Oompa Loomp in chief.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/15/donald-...

[Digga]

dandarez said:

Cold said:

18 people hospitalised, none serious.

22 now.

Seems like the scum got on tube before Parsons Green (just 5 stations).
Carrying a large bucket in a Lidl bag, the police must have video evidence of scum by now surely?

Hope all injured make a full recovery.

Hope the scum is snuffed out before the end of the day.

[Challo]

Ridgemont said:

SantaBarbara said:

Greendubber said:

I'd imagine so, they will be very careful what the release to the media though for obvious reasons.

The BBC had too much coverage in the first hours in my opinion

Well the message hasn't got through to the Oompa Loomp in chief.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/15/donald-...

Yep apparently you can just turn off the internet. He is the gift that keeps on giving.

[Frank7]

Smiler. said:

Scary stuff.

Are gas canisters permitted on the tube - like plumbers carrying tools between jobs etc?

I wonder if there will be a clampdown on the practice.

They can clamp down, and prohibit anything they want, but any Londoner will tell you, that a) no one takes any notice of that if they don't want to, alcohol is banned on public transport, but you'll almost always see someone with a can in their hand, busking is banned ON the tube, but not at stations, you'll often get a chancer get on, particularly on the Piccadilly Line from the airport and warble or whistle something while holding out a hat, beggars do it too, and b) TFL employees look the other way if someone's vaping, or swigging lager, who wants to risk getting stabbed on their wages.
I saw a TFL guy telling a guy that he couldn't take a can of booze through the ticket barrier at Highbury & Islington, and a bunch of other passengers were telling him to mind his own business, the lager guy was causing no harm, so I can't see anyone checking a guy carrying a builder's bucket.

[Ridgemont]

Challo said:

Ridgemont said:

SantaBarbara said:

Greendubber said:

I'd imagine so, they will be very careful what the release to the media though for obvious reasons.

The BBC had too much coverage in the first hours in my opinion

Well the message hasn't got through to the Oompa Loomp in chief.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/15/donald-...

Yep apparently you can just turn off the internet. He is the gift that keeps on giving.

To be fair, it would remove his means of communicating outside of the padded cell.

[Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah]

On BBC news I've just heard one of the most idiotic questions ever.

Are the police looking for the attacker?

No, they just thought they'd save him for another day

[rxe]

Greendubber said:

Having relevant training and experience in these sorts of thing I'd say he's bang on the money.

Any thought given to the idea that (with gas) they might be trying to create a vapour cloud explosion? Vastly easier and more effective than conventional explosives in a confined space.

[effkay]

"Supermarket Lidl has offered to help police after one of its bags was apparently used to hold the improvised bomb..."

Can just imagine their store detectives and security guards running amok.

[Jonesy23]

r11co said:

speedy_thrills said:

I thought the Boston bomb was a pressure cooker filled with shrapnel?

Both containers with an airtight seal.

Without going into details, you particularly don't use a pressure cooker because it has an airtight seal, rather its other main property makes it useful if you want a big bang from a small package. Something a plastic bucket doesn't give you. But a bucket is perfectly adequate to hold shrapnel around something you've mixed up that'll go bang enough to spray it around.

Yet again I'm thankful that these things are almost always done by utter idiots. With competence and planning they'd be properly lethal as they usually don't care about hiding or getting away.

As it is we've got 20 something with minor injuries rather than the utter carnage that could have been.

[Greendubber]

rxe said:

Greendubber said:

Having relevant training and experience in these sorts of thing I'd say he's bang on the money.

Any thought given to the idea that (with gas) they might be trying to create a vapour cloud explosion? Vastly easier and more effective than conventional explosives in a confined space.

I think the buckets full of nuts and bolts as well as the main main charge, the fairly lights have been packed with wire wool to initiate the home made explosive but it's not been powerful enough to detonate fully. Maybe they knew they were short on explosive or knew it was lacking a bit so popped the gas in there hoping it would add some needed kick if the main charge was man enough to make it explode.
Remember the bomb that just fizzed on the London bus after 7/7 I think it was? Whilst recipes are easy to come across getting it right and potent enough can be quite hard to do.

[Not-The-Messiah]

S11Steve said:

This can't possibly be another terror attack.

I changed my Facebook profile picture last time, and even used #PrayForLondon multiple times. Surely that made a difference...?

How many candles did you light? Did you get yourself a car sticker? You really should try harder or these things are going to happen time and time again.

[768]

Looks like the bag for life campaigns had more effect than the hashtags. I bet the Tesco ones aren't bombproof though the way they go mouldy.

[loafer123]

It certainly is a good thing that your average putative terrorist has trouble tying his own shoelaces and counting up to ten.