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dandarez

13,289 posts

284 months

Saturday 16th September 2017
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What tt(s) authorised the placement with this long-standing fostering couple with 'refugees' (what a loose f term this has become today thanks to the wishy-washy liberals) from the likes of Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan and other war torn areas?

There is no upper age limit to fostering and this couple has fostered a huge number, 268, over a lengthy period, 30 years, and honoured by the Queen - yet out there there are literally thousands who live in care already here on this island, all who desperately need fostering who don't come from war torn and terrorist areas - of the huge 268 number this couple has fostered, it seems only the last 8 have been from the war areas.
And surprise, surprise, one of them turns out to be a f scum terrorist!

FFS, this couple are aged 71 and 88.
And yet they were saddled with what turns out was a scum terrorist. For their efforts they've had their house raided and turned upside down by police thanks to do-gooders placing a nutjob with them, and all their friends in the road where they live moved out for their safety and who too are feeling the consequences.

What's the betting this couple may now decide to give up fostering? Whose fault will that be?

It's also worth noting at this point all those wishy-washy liberals. The ones who constantly say 'poor' refugees and put their heads above the parapet saying they will/would house a refugee (or two, or three or more!), who to this day have never taken even a single one, ever.
Why? Because they are all mouth and it naturally allows their utter naïve consciences to rest and sleep easy at night.

A big part of the problem. Yes.

God forbid if this Tube 'bomb' had been better constructed and detonated as it was really meant to, and done so further on underground? It could so easily have been with unbelievably devastating consequences.

When will the wishy-washies wake up? When it's too late.

Digga

40,334 posts

284 months

Sunday 17th September 2017
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mx5nut said:
Because in actual wars, we don't shoot unarmed people on sight, either.
Only just before the turn of the last century, armies used to 'meet' and charge one another on horseback. When the new era of mechanised war arrived, in the early c20, army command and governments took a long time to realise the continued use of these methods was outmoded, futile and ineffective.

Times change, enemies change, tactics need to keep up.

mx5nut

5,404 posts

83 months

Sunday 17th September 2017
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dandarez said:
What's the betting this couple may now decide to give up fostering? Whose fault will that be?
Almost certainly the press demonising and hounding them in the coming weeks. If police attendance at your house was enough to put people off fostering, nobody would do it!

Digga said:
nly just before the turn of the last century, armies used to 'meet' and charge one another on horseback. When the new era of mechanised war arrived, in the early c20, army command and governments took a long time to realise the continued use of these methods was outmoded, futile and ineffective.

Times change, enemies change, tactics need to keep up.
We had soldiers on the streets of the UK during The Troubles, some allegedly shooting unarmed people. It wasn't a very successful tactic.

bitchstewie

51,311 posts

211 months

Sunday 17th September 2017
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Ever worry about your blood pressure?

bitchstewie

51,311 posts

211 months

Sunday 17th September 2017
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KrissKross said:
Agreed, the guy speaks the truth, he forecasts that bad things will happen. Bad things do happen and he is the one under attack, he should be working with the police as an adviser.
To be fair I don't see any "attack".

Simply that anyone saying that there will be another attack, it may be on a train, and we need to be doing more to deal with the problem isn't some kind of Mystic Meg figure, sadly they're just being realistic.

I'm have massive respect for what people such as Phil Campion and our forces do and have done to keep us safe as it's something I could never do.

Cold

15,249 posts

91 months

Sunday 17th September 2017
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A second person (21 year old male) has been arrested.

Pesty

42,655 posts

257 months

Sunday 17th September 2017
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NRS

22,187 posts

202 months

Sunday 17th September 2017
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TheLordJohn said:
KrissKross said:
Thankyou4calling said:
Wouldn't be difficult to make that sort of forecast.

You would be about as accurate by sticking a pin in a list of possibles.

If "Big Phil" had any inside intelligence why isn't he going to the authorities?

Answer. Because he doesn't have any.

I have a forecast, this will happen again, probably due to brain washing in a Mosque, and the perpetrator will probably "be known" to the police but hey they cannot deport him or hurt his feelings, that would be far worse than people dying.

Shall I call the authorities as it seems they are unaware of this repetitive pattern?
I love how people on PH have the front to question an ex-Hereford lads' authority on terrorists.
That's literally all they've ever done. They're 1000x the men you find on civvie street.
It's an obvious prediction. If I said Lewis Hamilton is likely to win a race this season does it mean I should get a job in F1? Predicting something that is happening relatively often is easy. Nothing to do with their background or the poster's background.

poo at Paul's

14,153 posts

176 months

Sunday 17th September 2017
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mx5nut said:
dandarez said:
What's the betting this couple may now decide to give up fostering? Whose fault will that be?
Almost certainly the press demonising and hounding them in the coming weeks. If police attendance at your house was enough to put people off fostering, nobody would do it!
Don't bet on it, fostering is very lucrative as an income source. I doubt anyone does it purely out of the goodness of their hearts anymore.

bitchstewie

51,311 posts

211 months

Sunday 17th September 2017
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poo at Paul's said:
Don't bet on it, fostering is very lucrative as an income source. I doubt anyone does it purely out of the goodness of their hearts anymore.
I wouldn't let your own outlook on the world cloud your view too much.

Some will do it for money, there are always bad apples, but the overwhelming majority will do it because they want to do some good.

Smiler.

11,752 posts

231 months

Sunday 17th September 2017
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bhstewie said:
poo at Paul's said:
Don't bet on it, fostering is very lucrative as an income source. I doubt anyone does it purely out of the goodness of their hearts anymore.
I wouldn't let your own outlook on the world cloud your view too much.

Some will do it for money, there are always bad apples, but the overwhelming majority will do it because they want to do some good.
Quite right.

I know a couple of kids (brother & sister, only two of a bigger family, all grown up now) who had the worst possible start in life. They weren't the idea of "model children" but were loved by their foster parents, who eventually went on to adopt. They had a stable home through the remainder of their childhood.

Usual ups & downs as is life. Undoubtedly have baggage but have made their way ok really.


mx5nut

5,404 posts

83 months

Sunday 17th September 2017
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poo at Paul's said:
Don't bet on it, fostering is very lucrative as an income source. I doubt anyone does it purely out of the goodness of their hearts anymore.
Almost any job will provide more money for a lot less work/stress/hassle. If anyone tried it thinking it would be a nice earner, they'd be very disappointed very quickly.

I don't believe a couple of pensioners have fostered hundreds of kids as a "lucrative income source", and neither do you.

Yipper

5,964 posts

91 months

Sunday 17th September 2017
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Incident on a BA plane in Paris this morning.

Trevatanus

11,125 posts

151 months

Sunday 17th September 2017
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Yipper said:
Incident on a BA plane in Paris this morning.
Any more info?
Source?

jmorgan

36,010 posts

285 months

Sunday 17th September 2017
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Trevatanus said:
Yipper said:
Incident on a BA plane in Paris this morning.
Any more info?
Source?
Ran out of nuts? Someone put their seat back?

hyphen

26,262 posts

91 months

Sunday 17th September 2017
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Trevatanus said:
Any more info?
Source?
On all the news sites. A plane surrounded by police as a 'direct threat made', might be a hoax but they are searching passengers and baggage.

Trevatanus

11,125 posts

151 months

Sunday 17th September 2017
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Countdown

39,945 posts

197 months

Sunday 17th September 2017
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bhstewie said:
poo at Paul's said:
Don't bet on it, fostering is very lucrative as an income source. I doubt anyone does it purely out of the goodness of their hearts anymore.
I wouldn't let your own outlook on the world cloud your view too much.

Some will do it for money, there are always bad apples, but the overwhelming majority will do it because they want to do some good.
I couldn't agree more. People really shouldn't judge others by their own, fairly pathetic, standards. Fostering takes an incredible amount of time and effort and the vast majority of carers do so because they want to improve the lives of kids whose own parents were unable/unwilling to look after them.

ETA and O/T... Is t just me or does referring to a former member of the SAS as an "ex Hereford lad" make anybody else cringe?

KrissKross

2,182 posts

102 months

Sunday 17th September 2017
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NRS said:
It's an obvious prediction. If I said Lewis Hamilton is likely to win a race this season does it mean I should get a job in F1? Predicting something that is happening relatively often is easy. Nothing to do with their background or the poster's background.
If its that obviuos why is something not done about it?

When F1 drivers start killing people and terrorising the public, what would you suggest. Just leave them to it as its just part of every day life?

NRS

22,187 posts

202 months

Sunday 17th September 2017
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KrissKross said:
NRS said:
It's an obvious prediction. If I said Lewis Hamilton is likely to win a race this season does it mean I should get a job in F1? Predicting something that is happening relatively often is easy. Nothing to do with their background or the poster's background.
If its that obviuos why is something not done about it?

When F1 drivers start killing people and terrorising the public, what would you suggest. Just leave them to it as its just part of every day life?
It is - you don't see all the stopped attacks. Then the question is how to address the bigger picture - and that has a number of views on how to try and solve it. For example invading other countries created a power vacuum that ISIS was able to grow.