London Underground Incident
Discussion
NDA said:
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hstewie said:
hstewie said: If the foster parents knew all of those things.
If there are questions to ask I would guess it's more at the authorities and whatever process refugees go through before being let in.
Turns out you're right. The foster parents say they learnt more about this individual in a 5 minute conversation with the Police than they did through multiple dealings with Surrey County Council.If there are questions to ask I would guess it's more at the authorities and whatever process refugees go through before being let in.
Something's gone wrong here I'm sure but it just seemed wrong or premature at the very least suggesting it's the foster parents.
hairyben said:
We sem to lag a long way behind in preparedness though - having been to some big events in france and italy this year they seem a whole lot more expectant of trouble, both reactively in armed police and soldiers and also in design eg access routes
I was at the Leger on Saturday, and there were four armed police outside the enterance. Never seen any there before. Whether that's a reaction to the recent attempt, or they would have been there anyway, I don't know.TheLordJohn said:
No, I'm saying - A cockroach born/living in a house isn't a human being.
In response to someone asking above to check where the 7/7 bombers were born.
Because a cockroach is a different species you see. Just as a hamster and horse are a different species. Countries are geopolitical constructs and can grant citizenship to people who are born there or who immigrate there. They do not claim to alter the species of people. Because all people are the same species. In response to someone asking above to check where the 7/7 bombers were born.
Lotobear said:
I think he/she is using a metaphore; I did not read into it that the poster considers that the Ladies in the top picture are not human.
I think what may be implied is that their first loyalty may be to their religion than their country of residence
But I may be wrong.
Yes. Just as I'm sure that of all the animals he or she could have used, 'cockroach' was entirely randomly chosen.I think what may be implied is that their first loyalty may be to their religion than their country of residence
But I may be wrong.
desolate said:
mickmcpaddy said:
I'd say its most, I do a job where I meet different people all the time and if I get talking to them about things like this they are generally a bit coy at first but when they find out my my views I've yet to meet anyone who doesn't want to kick the lot out.
Top Bombing.TTwiggy said:
Lotobear said:
I think he/she is using a metaphore; I did not read into it that the poster considers that the Ladies in the top picture are not human.
I think what may be implied is that their first loyalty may be to their religion than their country of residence
But I may be wrong.
Yes. Just as I'm sure that of all the animals he or she could have used, 'cockroach' was entirely randomly chosen.I think what may be implied is that their first loyalty may be to their religion than their country of residence
But I may be wrong.
mickmcpaddy said:
A better example would have been a German shepherd dog, is it called an English shepherd dog if its born over here?
So it's about race then? Is a third, fourth, fifth generation Jamaican immigrant still not British? When is someone British, when they become acceptably white? If I've misunderstood you then I apologise in advance. As far as I'm concerned being born somewhere and thus having that nationality seems perfectly reasonable to me. You don't call a black person white because they are born here, but you can call them British, because race and nationality are not the same thing.
Edited by _dobbo_ on Monday 18th September 18:20
I do think that the comment re cockroaches is to be blunt distasteful and unnecessary
This won't endear me to some of the fluffies on here who like to hurl the racist tag around. But I just say it how it is
And I think its rather unpleasant and not required. Moreover its the kind of thing that gets threads shut down unecessarily
mickmcpaddy said:
desolate said:
mickmcpaddy said:
I'd say its most, I do a job where I meet different people all the time and if I get talking to them about things like this they are generally a bit coy at first but when they find out my my views I've yet to meet anyone who doesn't want to kick the lot out.
Top Bombing.desolate said:
mickmcpaddy said:
desolate said:
mickmcpaddy said:
I'd say its most, I do a job where I meet different people all the time and if I get talking to them about things like this they are generally a bit coy at first but when they find out my my views I've yet to meet anyone who doesn't want to kick the lot out.
Top Bombing.mickmcpaddy said:
Everyone that wants to keep their way of life and not adapt to the British way or integrate at all. Who cares if they were born here or not, I'm sure other countries would welcome the promising young footballer type with open arms.
Crack on with defining the British way then. Or do we all just fall in behind you?
jmorgan said:
News/press are letting out an awful lot of info. finding this a tad worrying, I expect it was obtained locally rather than the police releasing it.
Some general oddness going on, the crowd control barriers are proper strange.Also bit odd that they allowed MOP to film the arrest which seemed very low key really normally would be a rather "hard stop" given its a known and active terrorist.
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