Drugs in jail - how?
Discussion
daddy cool said:
BlackLabel said:
They are using dead rats now.
“Drugs, tobacco and mobile phones were smuggled into a prison stuffed inside dead rats.
The items were sewn inside the bodies of three rats found by officers in early March in the grounds of HMP Guys Marsh near Shaftesbury, Dorset.
It was the first recorded instance of rats being used in that way, the Prison Service said.”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-dorset-47670...
Everytime ive visited a prison ive had to leave my dead rat at reception, and then collected it again when I leave. It really seems like basic security procedures just aren't being followed.“Drugs, tobacco and mobile phones were smuggled into a prison stuffed inside dead rats.
The items were sewn inside the bodies of three rats found by officers in early March in the grounds of HMP Guys Marsh near Shaftesbury, Dorset.
It was the first recorded instance of rats being used in that way, the Prison Service said.”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-dorset-47670...
I thought I smelt a rat when this story first broke
You could design a lot of the transfer out through the architecture, as Ari suggests. Whether it'd lawful to have glass between the visitors and inmate on a carte blanche basis would remain to be seen.
You'd also need better systems to prevent people who become inmates taking the drugs with them by hiding them in certain places / swallowing them and waiting for them to pass through. I guess you could not put them into the general population for a while.
Also there are some corruption risks with the guards, but if you effectively eliminated the other avenues then it'd narrow that sort of thing down.
However, as per below:
You'd also need better systems to prevent people who become inmates taking the drugs with them by hiding them in certain places / swallowing them and waiting for them to pass through. I guess you could not put them into the general population for a while.
Also there are some corruption risks with the guards, but if you effectively eliminated the other avenues then it'd narrow that sort of thing down.
However, as per below:
abzmike said:
Presumably they’re lobbed over the wall.
You have to think that if the authorities wanted to clamp down on this sort of thing they would. Seems to me letting the lags get away with a bit keeps a lid on things.
I think if there were no more drugs in prison tomorrow it'd cause chaos. You have to think that if the authorities wanted to clamp down on this sort of thing they would. Seems to me letting the lags get away with a bit keeps a lid on things.
I worked as a Prison Officer for almost a year. i know people say staff bring it in but I didn't see that or hear about that. I know if I wasn't involved in that I wouldn't have but we were spot checked going in as well.
As well as stuff being thrown in the main ways would be prisoners coming in to prison or during visits. Prison Officers don't physically touch the prisoner during a search and a doctor would be needed to do a more thorough search. if you are in one of the big local prisons that isn't practical as you might have 80/100 prisoners going in and out to and from court each day as well as hospital visits and other such things.
And then visits. Obviously if you had no contact visits it would deal with that. prisoners do get put on closed visits (behind glass) if they are caught receiving drugs. But family contact is important too. People complain about women and children even babies being searched but it is very often they that are carrying. All visits are recorder and there are Officers in the visiting room but it is impossible to see everything and distractions can often be used to divert attention.
There are very few staff on at night when prisoners are locked in their cells so that is the time when prisoners are most likely to smoke/inject or whatever and some times it was just a case of let it vbe when there were other more serious things going on. Depressing really. They have banned smoking in most prisons now which to me is crazy as it just creates another black market and things can get pretty crazy with 1000 or more relatively young men stuck in there with little or nothing to do.
As well as stuff being thrown in the main ways would be prisoners coming in to prison or during visits. Prison Officers don't physically touch the prisoner during a search and a doctor would be needed to do a more thorough search. if you are in one of the big local prisons that isn't practical as you might have 80/100 prisoners going in and out to and from court each day as well as hospital visits and other such things.
And then visits. Obviously if you had no contact visits it would deal with that. prisoners do get put on closed visits (behind glass) if they are caught receiving drugs. But family contact is important too. People complain about women and children even babies being searched but it is very often they that are carrying. All visits are recorder and there are Officers in the visiting room but it is impossible to see everything and distractions can often be used to divert attention.
There are very few staff on at night when prisoners are locked in their cells so that is the time when prisoners are most likely to smoke/inject or whatever and some times it was just a case of let it vbe when there were other more serious things going on. Depressing really. They have banned smoking in most prisons now which to me is crazy as it just creates another black market and things can get pretty crazy with 1000 or more relatively young men stuck in there with little or nothing to do.
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