BBC studiously avoiding reporting top name for boys
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turbomoped said:
He was heezoos last year jayzus this year so maybe the tv commentators will final call the man city player jesus next year.
jesus seems to be most commonly said as part of a sweary outburst nowadays.
People like NTM might be a tad pissed to learn that Jesus (if he existed) probably went about calling himself Yeshua Ben Yusef or something like that. The fact that he probably had a brown face, black wavy hair, a knob that had been hacked at by some old dude with a small knife, and a right big old schnozzer might pjesus seems to be most commonly said as part of a sweary outburst nowadays.
s off the NTMs of this world even more. Hey, he probably ate meat from animals that had been killed without stunning, wrote and read from right to left, and thought that get up late and wash your car day was Saturday not Sunday, and all sorts of weird stuff like that. The bloke didn't even celebrate Christmas or Easter - chuh!Eric Mc said:
Jayzus has to be Irish - or maybe I'm thinking of Bejayzus.
"How do you know that Jesus is Jewish?" "Because he is thirty years old, still lives with his mom, and thinks she's a virgin."
"No! Jesus is Mexican. You can tell that - because he's called Jesus"
(copyright: The Dead Sea Scrolls)
Vocal Minority said:
Breadvan72 said:
Not the Messiah, I am going to assume [snippity snip] but Keep Calm and Carry On.
What a sensible balanced post. I couldn't agree more. scenario8 said:
I spotted this thread last night on my way home from work and thought "Oh goodness! Don't we have this thread every year where the same posters (some of whom even manage to stick with the same online persona for the duration) utter the same "arguments" about the Muslims taking over and generally being awful?"
Early on page one the original post seemed to have been addressed.
On the way to work we'd barely scraped onto a second page.
Between clients this has shot up to eight pages!
Can anyone tell me if it's worth reading pages 3-8?
i'd start on about p6 (or wherever Breadvan started posting...)Early on page one the original post seemed to have been addressed.
On the way to work we'd barely scraped onto a second page.
Between clients this has shot up to eight pages!
Can anyone tell me if it's worth reading pages 3-8?
Perhaps someone could show this thread to the parents of all the Mohammeds?
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
After all, whilst Mohammed (and other spellings) is a reasonable choice of name with all of its cultural significance to certain people, it is quite unimaginative as it is the same name as all their mates and family...
Is there any mileage in trying to convince people that the Prophet Mohammed actually preferred to be called Kenneth?
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
After all, whilst Mohammed (and other spellings) is a reasonable choice of name with all of its cultural significance to certain people, it is quite unimaginative as it is the same name as all their mates and family...
Is there any mileage in trying to convince people that the Prophet Mohammed actually preferred to be called Kenneth?
Breadvan72 said:
Not the Messiah, I am going to assume (perhaps unwisely) that you are not merely trolling and that you really believe the stuff that you post. I will be blunt and say that your posts indicate that you are poorly informed. You appear to have views that are prejudiced, based on misunderstandings about history, and about how economics and demographics work. The only antidote to being poorly informed is to read a lot and/or to watch informative videos online. TED Talks by Rosling and others would be a start. A good one volume history of Europe would help. Perhaps also some basic economics stuff eg selections from Adam Smith.
Also, try looking up from the pages of right wing echo chamber media sources, and look around Britain. Most of Britain remains white and rather, well, British. There are places with localised majorities of migrants. There are problems with lack of integration and with radicalism and so on. Successive governments have failed to provide infrastructure to meet the pressure posed by localised concentrations of migrants. There are problems exacerbated by ignorance and by deliberately irresponsible media and politicians.
On migration generally, economic analyses indicate that Europe needs migrants to tackle what would otherwise be a shortage of population. The idea that "they" will "outbreed" "us" is not supported by the data.
Also, no culture is fixed. It is historically daft to suggest that one particular cultural group which happens to have occupied a particular bit of land has some innate right to remain the dominant culture in that locality. Cultures are, however, robust. Western culture has existed in a slowly changing form for millennia. It shows no sign of going away. It is the most successful form of culture known to have existed. It has produced the best solutions to human problems, by inventing things such as democracy, the rule of law, and capitalism. It is also very militant and armed to the teeth.
Stop worrying so much! There are problems, but the sky really is not falling. You appear to be in a panic because some hatey nutters are managing to kill some people each year with terrorist outrages. Not many decades ago, some hatey nutters who belonged to the same culture as us (more or less) were raining fire and mass death on us from the skies, and we were doing it to them. We came through that. I am sorry to say this, as it is a bit of a cliche, but Keep Calm and Carry On.
[Edited because typo-Nazis R Us]
I refer back to my first post on this topic, you are a grate example of such a person. You would have been one of the people who said don't be daft, Mohamed would never be the Number one name in the UK as statistically dose not add up.Also, try looking up from the pages of right wing echo chamber media sources, and look around Britain. Most of Britain remains white and rather, well, British. There are places with localised majorities of migrants. There are problems with lack of integration and with radicalism and so on. Successive governments have failed to provide infrastructure to meet the pressure posed by localised concentrations of migrants. There are problems exacerbated by ignorance and by deliberately irresponsible media and politicians.
On migration generally, economic analyses indicate that Europe needs migrants to tackle what would otherwise be a shortage of population. The idea that "they" will "outbreed" "us" is not supported by the data.
Also, no culture is fixed. It is historically daft to suggest that one particular cultural group which happens to have occupied a particular bit of land has some innate right to remain the dominant culture in that locality. Cultures are, however, robust. Western culture has existed in a slowly changing form for millennia. It shows no sign of going away. It is the most successful form of culture known to have existed. It has produced the best solutions to human problems, by inventing things such as democracy, the rule of law, and capitalism. It is also very militant and armed to the teeth.
Stop worrying so much! There are problems, but the sky really is not falling. You appear to be in a panic because some hatey nutters are managing to kill some people each year with terrorist outrages. Not many decades ago, some hatey nutters who belonged to the same culture as us (more or less) were raining fire and mass death on us from the skies, and we were doing it to them. We came through that. I am sorry to say this, as it is a bit of a cliche, but Keep Calm and Carry On.
[Edited because typo-Nazis R Us]
Edited by Breadvan72 on Thursday 21st September 13:52
You say successive governments are to blame which I agree with, not because its they have failed to invest (give them enough money) for infrastructure. But they are to blame by allowing them to come in such numbers in the first place. When we cannot provide or pay for the infrastructure in the first place.
You bring up the argument that we need mass imagination because of our falling or stabilizing population growth. But then argue that these immigrants will no doubt integrate and their population growth will match ours. Then what, we continue this cycle indefinitely?
Japan has chosen not to go down that path and perhaps only time will tell who made the right call.
Not-The-Messiah said:
the rap of hundreds if not thousands of young girls. Is also a price worth paying?
Have you seen the rap singerss they have these days, on the Top of the Pops, the rap singers...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkI9h7EGYvI
Zod said:
Breadvan72 said:
I have decided to go large on the popcorn. I won't be able to eat it all, but I can enjoy flinging some at the troll.
(Sadly, however, I am not sure that he is trolling - he may actually believe that stuff.)
Look at his spelling and grammar - he's poorly educated, so susceptible to believing this kind of thing.(Sadly, however, I am not sure that he is trolling - he may actually believe that stuff.)
Edited by Breadvan72 on Thursday 21st September 13:23
Just to point out that even the lowest educated of our nation are more educated and more informed than probably 98% of everyone who has ever lived.
Not-The-Messiah said:
The idea that someones view is in anyway less meaningful than someone with a higher level of education even if that education has nothing to do with the topic in discussion is a load of crap.
Just to point out that even the lowest educated of our nation are more educated and more informed than probably 98% of everyone who has ever lived.
Said it before,many a highly educated person has been scammed.Just to point out that even the lowest educated of our nation are more educated and more informed than probably 98% of everyone who has ever lived.
Not-The-Messiah said:
The idea that someones view is in anyway less meaningful than someone with a higher level of education even if that education has nothing to do with the topic in discussion is a load of crap.
Just to point out that even the lowest educated of our nation are more educated and more informed than probably 98% of everyone who has ever lived.
That is one of the problems of modern society - the notion that everybody's opinion is equally valid - even if some people are less well educated and less well read, and have a fairly rudimentary level of knowledge of the facts.Just to point out that even the lowest educated of our nation are more educated and more informed than probably 98% of everyone who has ever lived.
Thanks' for demonstrating that principle.
Not-The-Messiah said:
I refer back to my first post on this topic, you are a grate example of such a person. You would have been one of the people who said don't be daft, Mohamed would never be the Number one name in the UK as statistically dose not add up.
Why do you care so much that variations on spellings of Mohammed are the most popular name, that's what I don't understand.Let's say approximately 2% of male babies born last year were given this name. So what's the big deal? This means 98% of babies weren't called Mohammed. If we shared a similar tradition to Muslim families there would have been 100,000 boys called Jesus last year and this thread wouldn't even exist.
Not-The-Messiah said:
Zod said:
Breadvan72 said:
I have decided to go large on the popcorn. I won't be able to eat it all, but I can enjoy flinging some at the troll.
(Sadly, however, I am not sure that he is trolling - he may actually believe that stuff.)
Look at his spelling and grammar - he's poorly educated, so susceptible to believing this kind of thing.(Sadly, however, I am not sure that he is trolling - he may actually believe that stuff.)
Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 21st September 13:23
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