BBC studiously avoiding reporting top name for boys
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NTM, the history of the British Isles (as of the World) is the history of migration. There have been periods of relatively little migration, and periods of greater migration. The world is currently going through a phase of notable population instability, caused by a great many factors, wider than those ever alluded to by the Mail, Breitbart or wherever it is that you get your ideas. Your notion of some white Anglo Saxon Christian island people is a fantasy, and in any event what gives the Anglo Saxons some special position that outranks all other populations before or after? Please, study some history! Oh, and by the way, you are African and probably black. We all are. I'm not kidding - look it up!
_dobbo_ said:
Why do you care so much that variations on spellings of Mohammed are the most popular name, that's what I don't understand.
Let's say approximately 2% of male babies born last year were given this name. So what's the big deal? This means 98% of babies weren't called Mohammed. If we shared a similar tradition to Muslim families there would have been 100,000 boys called Jesus last year and this thread wouldn't even exist.
You're pretty much spot on at 2% as well... Let's say approximately 2% of male babies born last year were given this name. So what's the big deal? This means 98% of babies weren't called Mohammed. If we shared a similar tradition to Muslim families there would have been 100,000 boys called Jesus last year and this thread wouldn't even exist.
W124 said:
Spot on. Yes, It's like a crack habit. It's great but also absolutely wasteful and awful. You describe it very well. I've got three tunes to mix today. I've been for a run, edited some bass, had some coffee and now I find myself here. Jesus!
Funny thing is, as an Irish Jew with a brother who converted to the Muslim faith to marry his Sudanese wife I must be the absolute worse thing some of the absolute f
kwits on here could imagine. And yet, I pay my taxes like everybody else. Me, my brother and his wife had a nice drink last night, listening to the new LCD Soundsystem album, we smoked, we drank and made merry. The idea that there is this great monolithic thing called 'Muslim' - plenty here just haven't got the faintest fking idea what they are talking about. They could not possibly be more wrong. The level of ignorance is mindblowing. Just astonishing.
I too know what it's like to be the subject of racist abuse because somes set off bombs. I came to England in 1976 as a young child with a heavy accent. I remember it very well.
To pre-judge somebody on the basis of their place of birth, race or faith IS racist. That is exactly what racism is.
This thread has been a fking disgrace. An utter embarrassment.
Well said.Funny thing is, as an Irish Jew with a brother who converted to the Muslim faith to marry his Sudanese wife I must be the absolute worse thing some of the absolute f
kwits on here could imagine. And yet, I pay my taxes like everybody else. Me, my brother and his wife had a nice drink last night, listening to the new LCD Soundsystem album, we smoked, we drank and made merry. The idea that there is this great monolithic thing called 'Muslim' - plenty here just haven't got the faintest fking idea what they are talking about. They could not possibly be more wrong. The level of ignorance is mindblowing. Just astonishing. I too know what it's like to be the subject of racist abuse because some
s set off bombs. I came to England in 1976 as a young child with a heavy accent. I remember it very well. To pre-judge somebody on the basis of their place of birth, race or faith IS racist. That is exactly what racism is.
This thread has been a f
king disgrace. An utter embarrassment. Breadvan72 said:
BTW, I am sooooooooo pleased that at long last I have my very own stalker in FCR. I felt miffed about not having one, as it's such a PH thing to have, but recognition at last!
Wont be long before you flounce from here like you did sp&l.Those massaging your ego here will get bored as well.Novelty wears thin quickly.
Shakermaker said:
You're pretty much spot on at 2% as well...
Slightly less at 1%, there was 700,000 babies born in England and Wales in 2016, lets call it 50/50 between boys and girls as I couldnt find the number for each gender, so 350,000 boys, 3900 of which were named Muhammad, thats about 1.1% - and these numbers are without Scotland.1.1% but raawwrr we am being swomped wif immagrants!!
Meridius said:
Slightly less at 1%, there was 700,000 babies born in England and Wales in 2016, lets call it 50/50 between boys and girls as I couldnt find the number for each gender, so 350,000 boys, 3900 of which were named Muhammad, thats about 1.1% - and these numbers are without Scotland.
1.1% but raawwrr we am being swomped wif immagrants!!
you can't reason with the unreasonable. 1.1% but raawwrr we am being swomped wif immagrants!!
Breadvan72 said:
NTM, the history of the British Isles (as of the World) is the history of migration. There have been periods of relatively little migration, and periods of greater migration. The world is currently going through a phase of notable population instability, caused by a great many factors, wider than those ever alluded to by the Mail, Breitbart or wherever it is that you get your ideas. Your notion of some white Anglo Saxon Christian island people is a fantasy, and in any event what gives the Anglo Saxons some special position that outranks all other populations before or after? Please, study some history! Oh, and by the way, you are African and probably black. We all are. I'm not kidding - look it up!
<nods>It always makes me chuckle when the NTMs of this world go off on one about "indigenous peoples". Ain't no such thing. Homo Sapiens is an invasive non-native species to this part of the globe.
Breadvan72 said:
Not-The-Messiah said:
Zod said:
Breadvan72 said:
I have decided to go large on the popcorn. I won't be able to eat it all, but I can enjoy flinging some at the troll.
(Sadly, however, I am not sure that he is trolling - he may actually believe that stuff.)
Look at his spelling and grammar - he's poorly educated, so susceptible to believing this kind of thing.(Sadly, however, I am not sure that he is trolling - he may actually believe that stuff.)
Edited by Breadvan72 on Thursday 21st September 13:23
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What I don't like is this notion that just because someone has a degree in the dance Styles of the flamingo. They have a more informed view and their opinion holds more sway over others.
Also if I wanted to get a idea of how a group of people think and behave. I would either go to them and spend time with them or next best thing go to people in very similar circumstances economic and social and ask them for their opinion. What I wouldn't do is go to educated elitist who have nothing in common with whom they speck. And think they can tell everyone whats correct and wrong because you can read it in a book.
Edited by Not-The-Messiah on Thursday 21st September 16:32
I do find it so disappointing that in recent years having (what previously might have been considered) a decent education has become a bad thing and that "elitism" has been added to the list of "isms" on the naughty step.
Same for liberalism. When did liberalism become so awful? And why?
Those are rhetorical questions, by the way.
Same for liberalism. When did liberalism become so awful? And why?
Those are rhetorical questions, by the way.
Not-The-Messiah said:
What I don't like is this notion that just because someone has a degree in the dance Styles of the flamingo. They have a more informed view and their opinion holds more sway over others.
I think what breadvan is saying is that (regardless of the subject of their degree, or whether they even have one) people are more informed by actually being informed on a subject and was recommending you could do this yourself, regardless of your level of education.Your reply seems to suggest you don't want to do that, which is fine, I guess.
scenario8 said:
I do find it so disappointing that in recent years having (what previously might have been considered) a decent education has become a bad thing and that "elitism" has been added to the list of "isms" on the naughty step.
Same for liberalism. When did liberalism become so awful? And why?
Those are rhetorical questions, by the way.
I realise it was rhetorical but I think the rise of social media has been a huge driving factor in this. Someone can post a load of old bSame for liberalism. When did liberalism become so awful? And why?
Those are rhetorical questions, by the way.
ks but if they get 50 'likes' they think their opinion carries weight. Then there's the more sinister angle with the likes of Cambridge Analytics sending people targeted content to reinforce their POV and wind them up even further.NTM's many skills apparently include mind reading, although alas he is as rubbish at that as he apppears to be at knowing stuff, making arguments, and so on. I say this because he said that I would be one of the people described in the first para of his first post on this thread. Here is that post, in all its enlightened and tolerant glory -
As for London being mainly non white by 2015, the 2011 census figures show those identifying as white as forming just under sixty percent of the population of London. Anyway, so what? Where does it say that a large cosmopolitan city such as London has to be full of white Brits? There are plenty of places in the UK that are full of white Brits, so those who like such places can be happy there, and despite its big city problems London is also a place where people can be happy. London has always been a diverse place, and right now it is very diverse. There are trouble spots, but lots of people rub along, as people are wont to do in crowded spaces. You do not have to go very far from London to see uncrowded spaces and to see little diversity.
Not-The-Messiah said:
If you said 20-30 years ago that the top boys name would be Mohammed or how ever you want to spell it. You would have been laughed at and called a racist tinfoil hat idiot. Just as if you said White's in London would be a minority by 2015.
But they have been proven right. And the same or similar people today are predicting and warning if things don't change or even worryingly that's its now to late to change. Things are going to get worse and much worse.
And what do the people who time and time again get it wrong do? They do the exactly the same things and call them racist and stupid.
The white Anglo Saxon Christian culture is now doomed in this country. Replaced by God knows what but its almost certain to lead to secular wars and massive social problems. But that could just be me with my tinfoil hat.
Alas for NTM, his stab at reading my mind 20 or 30 years ago has failed. I would not have been surprised by predictions of a lot of Mohammeds, for the reasons others have explained above, and also because I had grown up near a city with many Asian immigrants, and had attended university in a city with many Asian immigrants, and had while at university (a) studied in general, and (b) studied history in particular, including some economic history. Also, I would not have been bothered, just as I am not bothered now. BTW, going to Hindu, Sikh, and Muslim weddings and so on when a teenager because your white Irish dad is mates with several such people is a great antidote to being frightened of brown people. Top tip: making friends with some brown people is not something limited to youth - you can try it any time. But they have been proven right. And the same or similar people today are predicting and warning if things don't change or even worryingly that's its now to late to change. Things are going to get worse and much worse.
And what do the people who time and time again get it wrong do? They do the exactly the same things and call them racist and stupid.
The white Anglo Saxon Christian culture is now doomed in this country. Replaced by God knows what but its almost certain to lead to secular wars and massive social problems. But that could just be me with my tinfoil hat.
As for London being mainly non white by 2015, the 2011 census figures show those identifying as white as forming just under sixty percent of the population of London. Anyway, so what? Where does it say that a large cosmopolitan city such as London has to be full of white Brits? There are plenty of places in the UK that are full of white Brits, so those who like such places can be happy there, and despite its big city problems London is also a place where people can be happy. London has always been a diverse place, and right now it is very diverse. There are trouble spots, but lots of people rub along, as people are wont to do in crowded spaces. You do not have to go very far from London to see uncrowded spaces and to see little diversity.
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