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stitched

3,813 posts

173 months

Friday 22nd September 2017
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TTwiggy said:
Jones is one of the most common surnames in the UK. Does that mean we've had a Welsh population explosion?
There is no 'J' in the welsh alphabet.

Disastrous

10,083 posts

217 months

Friday 22nd September 2017
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stitched said:
TTwiggy said:
Jones is one of the most common surnames in the UK. Does that mean we've had a Welsh population explosion?
There is no 'J' in the welsh alphabet.
Which is how Indiana Jones managed to survive the ‘Jehovah’ puzzle - he knew it began with a ‘y’ in Welsh...

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 22nd September 2017
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ATG said:
oyster said:
Can you please tell me what Anglo Saxon Christian culture is?
Bede's Ecclesiastical History? Favourite read of Tommy F Robinson and all his little helpers.
Now I have PTSD - I had to read Bede in Latin to pass my prelims at Xmas 1981, otherwise I would have been flung out after just eight weeks at university and would never have got to snog that mentalist rower bird in the second term. I got so fed up with all those Egg Kings. Eggbert, Eggbeard, Eggfroth, Eggnog, Eggsandwich, you name it. I did at least learn that Vikings were, like, well cheaty at battles 'n'shiz. I still have my copy of Bede somewhere.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Friday 22nd September 2017
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Eric Mc said:
I'm struggling to work out what this "White Anglo-Saxon" culture actually is. Any examples of it please and where does it actually exist?
Perhaps these fine gentlemen, and their ilk, can help? They seem to be the ones shouting most loudly about protecting it.



anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 22nd September 2017
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Not-The-Messiah said:
Breadvan72 said:
Not the Messiah, I am going to assume (perhaps unwisely)
Also, no culture is fixed. It is historically daft to suggest that one particular cultural group which happens to have occupied a particular bit of land has some innate right to remain the dominant culture in that locality. Cultures are, however, robust. Western culture has existed in a slowly changing form for millennia. It shows no sign of going away. It is the most successful form of culture known to have existed. It has produced the best solutions to human problems, by inventing things such as democracy, the rule of law, and capitalism. It is also very militant and armed to the teeth.

[Edited because typo-Nazis R Us]

Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 21st September 13:52
You most be the biggest supporter of colonialism and empire I've ever come across. You most see the how the aborigines and native Americans have been treated in the past as totally fair and reasonable. It is historically daft to suggest that one particular cultural group which happens to have occupied a particular bit of land has some innate right to remain the dominant culture.
There you are going off with the mind reading PHAILZ again. I don't think that anything I have written could reasonably be read as indicating support for Colonialism (and I write as someone related to Thomas Clarke, the first signatory of the Proclamation of the Irish Republic at the Easter Rising in 1916 - my family know a bit about being on the wrong end of Colonialism) . If you would like to understand why Colonialism happened, I suggest that you read Jared Diamond's excellent book "Guns, Germs, and Steel".

Solitudinem faciunt, pacem appellant, innit.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Guns-Germs-Steel-history-...

NerveAgent

3,317 posts

220 months

Friday 22nd September 2017
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TooMany2cvs said:
Perhaps these fine gentlemen, and their ilk, can help? They seem to be the ones shouting most loudly about protecting it.
Is that an NP&E meetup? That is the image I have in my head of the angry cretins here.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 22nd September 2017
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I see the NPE massive as having rather more abundance of bling watches and chunky jewellery. There would also have to be some white Audis with RIMZ YO parked in the background.

Eric Mc

122,032 posts

265 months

Friday 22nd September 2017
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Breadvan72 said:
There you are going off with the mind reading PHAILZ again. I don't think that anything I have written could reasonably be read as indicating support for Colonialism (and I write as someone related to Thomas Clarke, the first signatory of the Proclamation of the Irish Republic at the Easter Rising in 1916 - my family know a bit about being on the wrong end of Colonialism) . If you would like to understand why Colonialism happened, I suggest that you read Jared Diamond's excellent book "Guns, Germs, and Steel".

Solitudinem faciunt, pacem appellant, innit.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Guns-Germs-Steel-history-...
Interesting 1916 connection there. The only family history I have that I'm aware of is my Granny being stopped at Fairview in Dublin by an RIC policemen. She and her friend were cycling in to the city and were stopped about two miles from the city centre. The policeman told them that there was "A spot of bother in town".

Roofless Toothless

5,665 posts

132 months

Friday 22nd September 2017
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Eric, perhaps understatement is one of the attributes of white Anglo Saxon culture!

I've just had a quick Google on this term, and results seem to be all about White Anglo Saxon Protestant culture, which is an American phenomenon. Nothing about the UK in the first couple of pages at least.

It surely is a thing that is only definable in terms of what it is not. And in a country like ours that takes in everything from the terraces at Millwall to the little old dears brewing a pot of tea in the church over the road.

Putting people into imaginary bags is not helpful, leads to assumptions, and at worst is deadly dangerous.

del mar

2,838 posts

199 months

Friday 22nd September 2017
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Culture is always going to be difficult to describe, it is just what we are and yes it will evolve over time.

The potential change is here is not our culture slowly evolving it is importing a different one.

Send your white non muslim wife / daughter / sister to go and live in Pakistan or Saudi Arabia and see if they can then identify any cultural differences.

schmunk

4,399 posts

125 months

Friday 22nd September 2017
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stitched said:
There is no 'J' in the welsh alphabet.
There is no 'I' in team.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 22nd September 2017
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Yeah, but there is me.

schmunk

4,399 posts

125 months

Friday 22nd September 2017
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Breadvan72 said:
Yeah, but there is me.
Ta.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 22nd September 2017
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Breadvan72 said:
Yeah, but there is me.
Bloody Existentialists invading the thread!

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 22nd September 2017
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Eric Mc said:
Interesting 1916 connection there. The only family history I have that I'm aware of is my Granny being stopped at Fairview in Dublin by an RIC policemen. She and her friend were cycling in to the city and were stopped about two miles from the city centre. The policeman told them that there was "A spot of bother in town".
"The row in the town" some called it. The new expo about it at the GPO on O'Connell Street (late Sackville Street) is very good. My maternal grandparents were Empire loyalists with a picture of the King in their parlour. This changed when the Auxiliaries beat up my grandad (not the Black and Tans - they were quite well behaved in general - it was the Auxiliaries, a force made up of the sort of people pictured not far above, who caused most of the ruckus.) My granny was selling apples from a handcart outside Croke Park when the Auxiliaries machine gunned the crowd. She lost her handcart in the stampede that followed. Of course, these may be family legends. My paternal grandfather (his family were diehard Fenians and Communists, and he was related by marriage to labour leader Big Jim Larkin) claimed to have had a drink in Toner's Bar on Baggot Street with James Joyce, but I reckon that Joyce was probably in Zurich by the time that my grandad was old enough to drink in Toner's. I was in Toner's last month, and it is still a fine pub.

Here's the GPO not long before the rebels were forced out by the British twelve pounders ("the English Huns/ With their long range guns", as goes the song) . Tom Clarke is the moustached figure standing behind Pearse and Ceannt (in IRB uniforms) while Connolly is the wounded guy on the stretcher.




Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 22 September 09:38

kowalski655

14,643 posts

143 months

Friday 22nd September 2017
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Eric Mc said:
I'm struggling to work out what this "White Anglo-Saxon" culture actually is. Any examples of it please and where does it actually exist?
Drinking lots of mead beer,and hating the Normans French?...little has changed

And for '16 uprising connections,I used to have a secretary who was the great something grand niece of Michael Collins, although she didnt look much like Liam Neeson smile

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Friday 22nd September 2017
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Roofless Toothless said:
I've just had a quick Google on this term, and results seem to be all about White Anglo Saxon Protestant culture, which is an American phenomenon.
Nothing ironic at all in them complaining about migration swamping the "native" culture, is there?

Jinx

11,391 posts

260 months

Friday 22nd September 2017
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TooMany2cvs said:
Roofless Toothless said:
I've just had a quick Google on this term, and results seem to be all about White Anglo Saxon Protestant culture, which is an American phenomenon.
Nothing ironic at all in them complaining about migration swamping the "native" culture, is there?
So when does migration become invasion? Probably fair to say initially the founding fathers were a migration - but that soon led to the invasion of the Americas.

vonuber

17,868 posts

165 months

Friday 22nd September 2017
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TooMany2cvs said:
Perhaps these fine gentlemen, and their ilk, can help? They seem to be the ones shouting most loudly about protecting it.


Quite depressing; my grandma didn't fight for the Nazis to let this sort of thing happen.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 22nd September 2017
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Quite so, and if she had fought harder at least we would have had better looking and better dressed racists, so I blame her for everything. This thread and the Trump thread contain all, I dunno, ten or twenty or so liberals in the whole of the gibbering right wing echo chamber that is NPE.

Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 22 September 09:54