Is Man Utd's Lukaku chant racist?

[anonymous-user]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

NorfolkInClue1 said:

Funny though, I bet they would be nowhere near as vocal if a black man chanted about a white footballers inadequacies, same myth but more palletable to the liberal manure...........

Can you educate me on the history of this myth. What's the historical background of white men being oppressed by black men, and the history of the demonisation of white men by their black rulers. How did the black landowners with white slaves use the myth of the white man having a small penis to keep black women away from them?

I must have missed this episode in history so keen to have it explained to me. Every day's a school day and all that.

You also missed the lessons on context, common sense and reading. But then that’s the trolls mantra eh?

Try reading the whole thread, understand what I meant by reversing it for the sake of making a point about the convenience in ignorance of the suddenly offended.
Offended when it’s white on black, in no way ever offended should it be the other way round.
I know it’s a bit too obvious for you but you have come across as a bit of a fool with your “every days a school day “ tragic sarcasm, maybe you should have stuck it out a bit more at school?

Water of a ducks back when it comes to desperate liberal idiots.........

[Cold]

Manchester United bid to identify fans who chanted Lukaku song

Article said:

Manchester United have asked for CCTV footage to help identify fans who ignored pleas not to chant a controversial song about Romelu Lukaku in the club’s 1-0 win at Southampton on Saturday.

United and Lukaku both requested supporters to refrain from repeating the chant after it was described last week as “racist” by anti-discrimination body Kick It Out.

[Ayahuasca]

Cold said:

Manchester United bid to identify fans who chanted Lukaku song

Article said:

Manchester United have asked for CCTV footage to help identify fans who ignored pleas not to chant a controversial song about Romelu Lukaku in the club’s 1-0 win at Southampton on Saturday.

United and Lukaku both requested supporters to refrain from repeating the chant after it was described last week as “racist” by anti-discrimination body Kick It Out.

I still cannot work out how saying someone has a large penis is racist.

[TwigtheWonderkid]

Ayahuasca said:

I still cannot work out how saying someone has a large penis is racist.

It's not, if you've seen their penis and it's large. But if you're assuming it's large because they're black, that's racist.

Like assuming an Asian owns a corner shop, a Jew is frugal with his money etc. None of them are insults, as owning your own shop and being frugal with money are good things, but the history behind those generalisations is about the demonisation of certain minorities.

[bitchstewie]

NorfolkInClue1 said:

Typical assumptive ignorant liberal garbage, did you just make a sweeping ignorant statement?

Explain to me in intricate detail where I personally referenced anything about the seventies, Alf Garnet, Jim Davidson or any others?
Explain to me where I personally praised any of the above or justified any kind of casual racism that you feel they, and only they it would seem, glorified or represented?
Explain to me why you find it so so hard to accept others points of view when strive so very hard to point out that we should be accepting of all, if someone chooses not to adapt to your particular way of thinking do you usually try to link them to 70’s stereotypes, are you that daft?
I’ve never praised racism in anything I have said, I have offered a possible alternative view point on things, based on the glaring hypocrisy that is “liberalism”.
Nothing makes me happier than the selfish ignorance hypocrisy of the liberal shining strong.

If you want to assume things then fine, a fool assumes.

Alf Garnet ffs.......tragic.

Follow it back to the start and I'd like to think that it's clear to anyone that the word "you" wasn't directed at you personally but in reference to the "black pudding" mentality.

It's a nice little seguay about being liberal (because after all that's a bad thing right? ) but nowhere have I said you (not you personally for clarification) can't have your point of view, of course you can, but times do change and some points of view will have you looked on as a dinosaur.

Seems Man United and the Police agree if they're looking at CCTV, but they're probably liberals too.

[anonymous-user]

Ayahuasca said:

I still cannot work out how saying someone has a large penis is racist.

The Office blackman bread bin joke sums it up, the conversation afterwards between Brent and his Boss.

JENNY 'You're using the ethic stereotype that all black men have large penises, because you think it makes it funnier.''

BRENT ''its not a insult its a compliment if anything''

JENNY ''so what you saying is black people should be flattened that there only achievement in this world is having over sized genitalia.''

[popeyewhite]

The Spruce goose said:

The Office blackman bread bin joke sums it up, the conversation afterwards between Brent and his Boss.

JENNY 'You're using the ethic stereotype that all black men have large penises, because you think it makes it funnier.''

BRENT ''its not a insult its a compliment if anything''

JENNY ''so what you saying is black people should be flattened that there only achievement in this world is having over sized genitalia.''

It's a good joke and shows how those looking for offence can latch onto relatively innocuous comments and attempt to subvert their meaning to falsely illustrate some current PC agenda of theirs.

[anonymous-user]

popeyewhite said:

It's a good joke and shows how those looking for offence can latch onto relatively innocuous comments and attempt to subvert their meaning to falsely illustrate some current PC agenda of theirs.

Innocuous comments, are you stupid? The office skit was a joke, but the joke is that it it is offensive and you don't have to be Black to find it offensive. It is similar to those that laughed with Alf Garnet not realising the joke was on themselves.
But we are talking about football entertainment for the brain dead, so they probably think the chant is REALLY funny..haha

[popeyewhite]

The Spruce goose said:

popeyewhite said:

It's a good joke and shows how those looking for offence can latch onto relatively innocuous comments and attempt to subvert their meaning to falsely illustrate some current PC agenda of theirs.

Innocuous comments, are you stupid? The office skit was a joke, but the joke is that it it is offensive and you don't have to be Black to find it offensive. It is similar to those that laughed with Alf Garnet not realising the joke was on themselves.
But we are talking about football entertainment for the brain dead, so they probably think the chant is REALLY funny..haha

Whoooooosh

[Ayahuasca]

The Spruce goose said:

Ayahuasca said:

I still cannot work out how saying someone has a large penis is racist.

The Office blackman bread bin joke sums it up, the conversation afterwards between Brent and his Boss.

JENNY 'You're using the ethic stereotype that all black men have large penises, because you think it makes it funnier.''

BRENT ''its not a insult its a compliment if anything''

JENNY ''so what you saying is black people should be flattened that there only achievement in this world is having over sized genitalia.''

In that exchange the only person who says 'their' 'only achievement' is a big dick is Jenny.

[Willy Nilly]

I'm at home on my dinner break and haven't opened my pay packet yet. When I do open it, if I find it has £200,000 in it for the week and when I go back at 1pm and find that there are 50,000 people saying I'm quite good at my job and have a huge knob I'll put that down as a reasult.

[anonymous-user]

Ayahuasca said:

In that exchange the only person who says 'their' 'only achievement' is a big dick is Jenny.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that Jenny is the views of a rational intelligent person, aka the viewer. I posted it as it is an example of people can be racist and not really understand they are being so, as you seemed to think there was no issue with chant, maybe a lot have no issue, but the joke always falls back to black people having big dicks being funny.

[LP670]

this thread makes me think some people don't know the difference between stereotyping and racism

[AlexC1981]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

It's not, if you've seen their penis and it's large. But if you're assuming it's large because they're black, that's racist.

Like assuming an Asian owns a corner shop, a Jew is frugal with his money etc. None of them are insults, as owning your own shop and being frugal with money are good things, but the history behind those generalisations is about the demonisation of certain minorities.

It's stereotyping, but not racist as there is no prejudice or unjust discrimination there. Would it also be racist to assume he has curly black hair under his hat? I don't think so.

[Funkycoldribena]

Willy Nilly said:

I'm at home on my dinner break and haven't opened my pay packet yet. When I do open it, if I find it has £200,000 in it for the week and when I go back at 1pm and find that there are 50,000 people saying I'm quite good at my job and have a huge knob I'll put that down as a reasult.

For 20k a week you can shout whatever you like at me.

[otolith]

mep said:

And it's a Bell Curve.

Win!

[TwigtheWonderkid]

AlexC1981 said:

TwigtheWonderkid said:

It's not, if you've seen their penis and it's large. But if you're assuming it's large because they're black, that's racist.

Like assuming an Asian owns a corner shop, a Jew is frugal with his money etc. None of them are insults, as owning your own shop and being frugal with money are good things, but the history behind those generalisations is about the demonisation of certain minorities.

It's stereotyping, but not racist as there is no prejudice or unjust discrimination there. Would it also be racist to assume he has curly black hair under his hat? I don't think so.

It's stereotyping based on race, so it's racist. And, black men actually do have curly black hair, unless they're bald or have dyed it. . They don't have huge penises. You are aware that it's a myth. And not a myth based on positiveness and not a myth to compliment.

[drainbrain]

If Mr Lukaku is the stereotypical footbalista dimwit then he probably finds this playground chant as mildly amusing and mildly complimentary as the 50000 vulgar dimwit yobbos who chant it at him. In other words he likes it.

If Mr Lukaku is of even average intelligence he'll be completely ambivalent about the silly chant. Probably slightly happy that it's some form of yobbo-compliment and not something derogatory and insulting. In other words he couldn't care less about it.

Monkey chanting and banana throwing is intentionally racist. This Lukaku chant isn't, and needs to be interpreted as something less superficial than it is in order to become racist.

Another interpreter might say that the yobbos are acclaiming him as a 'big swinging dick' in the football jungle, and that his colour isn't important or relevant as it's his soccer pre-eminence that inspires the 'compliment' about his penis.

Edited by drainbrain on Sunday 24th September 19:01

[AlexC1981]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

AlexC1981 said:

TwigtheWonderkid said:

It's not, if you've seen their penis and it's large. But if you're assuming it's large because they're black, that's racist.

Like assuming an Asian owns a corner shop, a Jew is frugal with his money etc. None of them are insults, as owning your own shop and being frugal with money are good things, but the history behind those generalisations is about the demonisation of certain minorities.

It's stereotyping, but not racist as there is no prejudice or unjust discrimination there. Would it also be racist to assume he has curly black hair under his hat? I don't think so.

It's stereotyping based on race, so it's racist. And, black men actually do have curly black hair, unless they're bald or have dyed it. . They don't have huge penises. You are aware that it's a myth. And not a myth based on positiveness and not a myth to compliment.

I agree it is stereotype based on race, but you need prejudiced added in for it to be racist....

I thought their average penis size was supposed to be bigger according to surveys. Can't say I've spent much time reading up on it!

[TwigtheWonderkid]

drainbrain said:

Another interpreter might say that the yobbos are acclaiming him as a 'big swinging dick' in the football jungle, and that his colour isn't important or relevant as it's his soccer pre-eminence that inspires the 'compliment' about his penis.

Edited by drainbrain on Sunday 24th September 19:01

Yeah....if you say so.